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Topic: 70's giants in the 80's
Posted By: Dellinger
Subject: 70's giants in the 80's
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 18:29
This are perhaps the best known and loved prog bands from the 70's. However, for the 80's the story was sort of different, ¿who's album's from the 80's did you like better?

I would be tempted to go with Genesis, but I'm afraid I don't know almost anything from Tull nor ELP from this decade.



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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 18:45
King Crimson kept making new and original music, and the 80s is my favorite King Crimson anyways, so they win.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 18:51
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

King Crimson kept making new and original music


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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 18:53
Hmm. Either KC or Genesis.
Discipline is one of the best albums of all time, and TOAPP is good. Beat has some solid tacks.
Duke and Abacab were pretty good, Genesis is possibly my favorite pop album of all time, and Invisible Touch is pretty lackluster.

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 19:03
First vote for Genesis, although all five groups had their moments in the eighties.

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Posted By: voliveira
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 19:16
Genesis! (and i also love 90125, i can't deny...)

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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 19:16
Hmmm, `Duke', `Abacab' and the first side of `Genesis' are mostly very good, and the KC albums from this period were all very inventive and evolving.

I really do like both `90125' and `Big Generator' - never thought I'd come around to really enjoying that one!

But I'll go with Genesis simply because over the years I've listened to their albums from this period a lot more than the KC and Yes ones.

Have to say, though, that the `E.L.Powell' album from the 80's is a favourite of mine (best thing they'd done since `Brain Salad Surgery') so I guess that counts as an ELP one for this post?!


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 19:21
KC easily.
 
 


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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 21:51
Why did you not include Rush. They are 70's giants. But they had done great stuff from the 80's. I voted for KC. They also had done great stuff in the 80's. I love Discipline

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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: October 12 2012 at 22:08
Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

Why did you not include Rush. They are 70's giants. But they had done great stuff from the 80's. But I voted for KC.

I think it's because Rush would easily dominate this poll.

My vote goes to Genesis. For people who've listened to the 80's albums WITHOUT comparing them to other Genesis albums, they're fantastic.


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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 00:58
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

King Crimson kept making new and original music


Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 01:11
Although Yes started this decade with Drama which is my one of my favorites by the band, the rest wasn't good. Genesis weren't able to hold my slightest interest and Jethro Tull weren't bad at all actually. But like it's already been said KC kept making original, new and exciting music.


Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 01:25
I thought they all put out excellent albums in the 80's (although not every album each put out was excellent, or even good in a couple of cases), but I loved Drama, 90125, Duke, Abacab, ELPowell, Discipline, Three of a Perfect Pair and Crest of a Knave.  Almost impossible to choose.

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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 01:39
I like albums from the 80's by all these bands, but KC definantly was the stronger of all of them during the 80's. I haven't heard anything from Tull from the 80's so I guess what I just said isn't true, but still. Tongue

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 02:23
Originally posted by bytor2112 bytor2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

King Crimson kept making new and original music


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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 03:21
People like what I said enough to use it as their own words, yay! 

That being said, Discipline has been one of my favorite albums ever since I first heard it.  I feel like expanding a bit right now.  I don't know what it is about the album, exactly, that makes me love it so.  The first exposure to music from the album wasn't even the original tracks, actually.  On one of the volumes of Les Claypool's Fearless Flying Frog Brigade's live albums, they cover Thela Hun Ginjeet.  I heard the track there, and was intrigued by the melody, rhythm, just about everything about the track.  So I decided to check out this weird band who I'd never heard of at that point in time, King Crimson.  I checked out Discipline first, since it was the first I heard anything from.  Pretty instantly, I was intrigued by the music within.  From the opening bits of Elephant Talk to the closing bits of the title track, I'd say I was pretty well entranced.  I listened over and over again, absorbing the interlocking rhythmic patterns, Belew's sometimes unruly guitar and vocals, and the truly beastly rhythm section laid down by Levin and Bruford.  Everything about the album just caught my fancy, so I decided to check out more of their releases.  First I moved backwards, as a random gesture.  I went from Discipline to In the Court... and needless to say, it was somewhat of a jarring transition.  The music in In the Court... was still intriguing and fun, but I couldn't help but realize what a big difference there was in the sound.  Still, I decided to check out more from the 70s.  I next grabbed up In the Wake of Poseidon.  Since the first listening of that one, I've always preferred it, but that's besides the point.  I continued through the 70s, then skipped the other two 80s albums, and moved to the Thrak/ConstruKction of Light/Power to Believe Crimson.  I didn't hear anything I disliked very much in any of it (if anything, some of the earlier albums didn't strike my fancy as much), so for a good long while King Crimson was my favorite group, and it was all started with Discipline.  Discipline also led me to discover Talking Heads, specifically Remain in Light, another of my favorites.  It also led me to check out other bands of the so-called "progressive rock" genre (whether or not progressive rock should be a genre in and of itself is another debate) leading to the discovery of my absolute favorite music of all time (such as Can's Tago Mago). 

Basically, DIscipline was my gateway drug into prog, and still to this day remains one of my favorites. 


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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 03:44
Genesis? Now c'mon. You cannot be serious (Apologies John McEnroe) you 4 who have so far voted for them.

KC did not compromise. Genesis almost completely copped out.


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 03:51
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Genesis? Now c'mon. You cannot be serious (Apologies John McEnroe) you 4 who have so far voted for them.

KC did not compromise. Genesis almost completely copped out.
I reall like Duke and Invisble Touch. There is nothing wrong with these albums.
 
And indeed, where is Rush, their music was still top-notch quality in the eighties.
 
KC would probably be my choice, Adrian Belew was a very good choice to replace John Wetton on vocals, and the right balance between pop and experimental songs makes the album easier to digest.
 
Saga is also missing in the poll. They started in the late seventies, but had already some fame in the seventies, and then continued to perform excellent music in the eighties.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 05:28
Genesis for the following tracks:
Abacab
Dodo/Lurker
Home By The Sea/Second Home By The Sea
Domino
The Brazilian
 
don't care for King Cimson minimalism. Yes recorded a couple of decent tracks (Leave It and Cinema). ELPowell has Mars but little else to get excited about
Tull don't remember anything from this period. Think I owned a cassette once but can't remember which one. It was very dull.


Posted By: yanch
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 05:41
KC.


Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 07:56
Originally posted by Raccoon Raccoon wrote:

 

My vote goes to Genesis. For people who've listened to the 80's albums WITHOUT comparing them to other Genesis albums, they're fantastic.

Exactly that. If I hadn't listened to those albums as a kid and enjoyed them so much, I would never have checked out the 70s albums, and I wouldn't have become a progfan. Now THAT's a horrible thought.


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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 09:21
Not a fan of any 80's era albums of all those bands, but Crimso provided the most experimental and intriguing work during new wave era.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 09:25
Crimson by a wide margin. Then I prefer A Momentary Lapse of Reason to all the others on the list's albums from the 80s.
 
 
 
 
ps:  (and I prefer The Final Cut to any 80s Crimson album)


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 10:20
Crimson easily, not a fan of the 80's output of the the other bands at all, well maybe Broadsword, but that's it.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 13 2012 at 12:26
Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:





Why did you not include Rush. They are 70's giants. But they had done great stuff from the 80's. But I voted for KC.


I was kind of thinking about the most classic sounding prog bands in the 70's, and from Britain (though I failed to put that in my OP). I didn't include Pink Floyd (even though they were an even bigger band) because they weren't doing quiet the same kind of prog as the other 4 bands.


Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: October 15 2012 at 13:36
Here, King Crimson.

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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 16 2012 at 12:51
Crimson easily.

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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: October 16 2012 at 14:32
Tull for me

I like most of the 80s Tull  ....only under Wraps is really bad


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Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: October 17 2012 at 01:57
KC !!!!


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 17 2012 at 02:17
King Crimson, of course!


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 17 2012 at 03:34
Yes, very closely followed by Genesis


Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 17 2012 at 08:34
Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

King Crimson kept making new and original music, and the 80s is my favorite King Crimson anyways, so they win.



This plus all the others made a load of sh*t in the 80s


Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: October 17 2012 at 15:33
80's KC is my favourite King Crimson. Beat is better than In The Court. There I said it. Bowdown

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