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Topic: Death Metal vs. Black Metal
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Subject: Death Metal vs. Black Metal
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 00:51
I've been listening to a bit more metal recently (not the progressive kind). So I'm just wondering which of these two subgenres is most liked (or least disliked) around here. My vote would easily go to Black Metal, I find it quite enjoyable, besides all of the satanism. So tell me what you think...



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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 01:17
Black Metal fo sure.

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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 07:14
It would be easy for me to choose both since I like bands concerning both genres, but if I had to choose I'd probably go with death metal. When black metal bands are good, they're REALLY good, but that's often because they throw in other elements, whether the technicality of death metal or the symphonic and occasionally shoegaze influences.

The straight up "true" Norwegian black metal lo-fi sound without embellishments is less appealing to me than your average Floridian or Scandinavian death metal act, although there are a few exceptions.


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 07:17
Neither, they're both disgusting.

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 10:47
I can't tell the difference. 

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Posted By: Undercover Man
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 10:50
I'm not really a big fan of either of them, but i like more Death Metal bands than Black Metal.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 11:02
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

I can't tell the difference. 
Black metak


death metal




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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 11:41
^ Both are unlistenable, black is a little bit better. LOL

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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 11:45
I generally prefer black metal, but don't listen extensively to either.

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 11:52
Gotta say neither.
Back in the day I used to like Death Metal but now...ugh I can't listen to it. I pretty much like Death, and maybe 2 or 3 others. Just boring and cold. At least Death had a sense of groove.

Black Metal is also pretty terrible though. We on PA spew love over the 20 good onesLOL which are progressive/avant/folk ones but 99% is just terrible trash.


That's for the straight up not proggy kind. If you wanna talk progressive metal, I'd probably take black since it tends to be more atmospheric and avant.


Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 12:10
Okay, Black Metal. Krallice is cool

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Posted By: Undercover Man
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 12:16
I don't like Cannibal Corpse though, i like more the technical death stuff.


Posted By: menawati
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 14:33
Black definitely

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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 15:54
Someone posted a Cannibal Corpse song on Progarchives.  The poor lost souls in hell rejoice as the snowstorm begins.

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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 15:59
black metal for me. I used to be a huge metalhead and loved both genres but black metal just has a lot more variation and potential for different moods and emotions. Death metal is usually just the same kind of angry aggressive vibe, black metal can range from something terribly punishing and raw like Blasphemy or Conqueror to something really ambient and atmospheric like Burzum or Weakling. But really though, traditional metal > all

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Krallice is cool


ewwwwwww


Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 16:13
why ew?

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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: October 28 2012 at 16:17
they're gross :P but i used to be super into metal and especially underground stuff so I came out of it with a very elitist mindset, i can't stand some of the current bands trying to play black metal like Krallice or Wolves In The Throne Room. They seem to try too hard to fit into a certain niche instead of being natural, but it's inevitable when a genre becomes popular enough to be trendy.

For me a good example of the direction black metal should go in is something like this



some elements of death metal present as well but it's still a genuine expression of metal rather than trying to be a certain kind of this or that like most bands today


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: October 30 2012 at 17:19
DEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

Oh, sorry, just a natural reflex.
Let me just summarize my current stream of thoughts: NAPALM DEATH CARCASS DEATH ENTOMBED BOLT THROWER OBITUARY LOUDBLAST AGRESSOR PESTILENCE EDGE OF SANITY GOJIRA LANDMINE MARATHON TERRORIZER

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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: November 01 2012 at 17:10
^
interestingly you mention Terrorizer (more grindcore than death metal) but not Morbid Angel...
 
Also, besides Loudblast, Agressor and Gojira, France has Supuration, Massacra, Mercyless, Misanthrope, Maëlstrom, Kalisia 
 
Anyway, I like both.
Black metal has Lugubrum, Impiety (well blackened thrash), Funeral Mist, Dark Funeral, Rotting Christ, Emperor, Abigail Williams...
Death metal has Cédric's above-mentioned bands, and also Suffocation, Dismember, Trauma, Morgoth ('odium' is a masterpiece), Dark Tranquillity (early), Amorphis (early)...


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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:21
^Well, I must confess that I barely know Morbid Angel (the political shenanigans of David Vincent disturbed me at these times).
In fact, I just listened to some tracks from "Illud Divinum Insanus" and... Well, I liked it...


Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:31
Neither if they're not prog black and prog death. If they are, then I'd love them equally Big smile

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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 12:42
Not a big fan of either, but I do have my favorites. Black metal wins, even though I like the band Death more than any black metal band. Cannibal Corpse, on the other band, are garbage, and I doubt I will ever change about that.


Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 13:03
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

^Well, I must confess that I barely know Morbid Angel (the political shenanigans of David Vincent disturbed me at these times).
In fact, I just listened to some tracks from "Illud Divinum Insanus" and... Well, I liked it...


dude Illud Divinum Insanus is f**king horrendous. but it doesn't matter. I'm more concerned with the fact that you claim to like death metal but aren't familiar with Morbid Angel's early work.

Educate yourself





Their first two albums are top-tier death metal, no arguments.

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul HarbouringTheSoul wrote:

Not a big fan of either, but I do have my favorites. Black metal wins, even though I like the band Death more than any black metal band. Cannibal Corpse, on the other band, are garbage, and I doubt I will ever change about that.


their first few albums are classic, man! definitely got mediocre after that though... still, i'll take some boring new Cannibal Corpse over the garbage that is the last two Death records any day


Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: November 03 2012 at 23:10
Great to see Black Metal's winning!Thumbs Up


Posted By: Ferturi
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 02:57
Big fan of both styles here, I think I'll go with black metal... it has better melodies I think, while death metal focuses more on rhythm, and I'm more of a melody person.
Another great choice would be Blackened Death Metal, Akercocke is one of the best bands in the metal and prog genres, I think.


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Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 03:12
Death metal for me. Especially lo-fi recorded black metal turn me off completely. There are exceptions but that´s my general feeling about it. i remember when the second wave black metal artists began to flood the extreme metal scene in the early- to mid-nineties. I hated most of it. I´ve come to like a lot of it in time (for instance I absolutely adore a band like Satyricon these days, and I used to dislike them), but I guess some of the feelings from back then are still stuck in my mindSmile.

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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 04:05
Originally posted by Sumdeus Sumdeus wrote:

their first few albums are classic, man! definitely got mediocre after that though... still, i'll take some boring new Cannibal Corpse over the garbage that is the last two Death records any day

Their first few albums are especially what I'm objecting to. Butchered at Birth is probably the most unintentionally funny album I have ever heard. Their newer albums are completely uninteresting, but at least they're not comically bad. And you must be the first person I have seen who doesn't like Symbolic.


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 04 2012 at 04:08
In general neither, there are a few tracks here and there but in most cases id rather listen to something else.

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Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: November 05 2012 at 02:10
Black metal for sure. Though there are death metal bands I love, such as Between the Buried and Me, there is no music that chills the soul like black metal.

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