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Topic: Peter Gabriel 3: Melt
Posted By: geneyesontle
Subject: Peter Gabriel 3: Melt
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 19:14
What is your favorite song from this album by the ex Genesis frontman Peter Gabriel ?

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 19:18
A lot of great songs on here, but got to go with I Don't Remember.

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 19:18
Intruder. But Games ... is not far.


Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 19:34
Biko.

The bass, the pipes, everything is perfect, and his vocal interpretation is powerful

Iván


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Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 19:46
I Don't Remember for me, but Games Without Frontiers is a close second.


Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 19:47
Originally posted by Master of Time Master of Time wrote:

I Don't Remember for me, but Games Without Frontiers is a close second.

I echo those sentiments exactly 


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 19:48
"No Self-Control". What a job on those synths and the guitar. Astonishing production. Psychotic. A very visceral track about spiritual survival.


Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 20:07
I have to go with Family Snapshot. Everything is perfect here. All the songs are perfect here. But And Through The Wire is my least favorite.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 20:07
Last time this topic came up I voted for Biko - PG's most powerful song.  This time I went for Games Without Frontiers.

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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 20:15
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Biko.

The bass, the pipes, everything is perfect, and his vocal interpretation is powerful

Iván

Agreed.  It usually brings a tear to my eye.  


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 20:26
No Self Control!

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 20:45
I don't know this album, nor much from Gabriel solo... I just am not quiet so interested, for what I like least from classic Genesis is Gabriel's voice, and the album I like the least is The Lamb (which I understand is closer to what Gabriel would do solo than any other Genesis album with him). However, I may try to give this Melt album a try if I can find it, for I think it's the best rated on PA, and I heard Biko on Youtube and found it rather interesting (I have tried a few other Gabriel songs from other albums and hadn't done much for me).


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 20:49
^ Well, if you do have a penchant for well-produced catchy, dark, and visceral experimental pop-rock with clever and meaningful lyrics, get it now.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 21:28
No self control

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 21:38
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Biko.

The bass, the pipes, everything is perfect, and his vocal interpretation is powerful

Iván

Agreed.  It usually brings a tear to my eye.  

I remember the last concert in Perú, 10,000 souls rising the right hand and shouting with Peter making the cry sound with his famous semi yodel

MAGIC

Iván


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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 22:15
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Biko.

The bass, the pipes, everything is perfect, and his vocal interpretation is powerful

Iván

Agreed.  It usually brings a tear to my eye.  

I remember the last concert in Perú, 10,000 souls rising the right hand and shouting with Peter making the cry sound with his famous semi yodel

MAGIC

Iván

Wow. I also remember it in the back to front tour. It was in the encores. He also played No Self Control and Family Snapshot from the same album. Still, no I Don't Remember and Games without Frontiers in the show.Confused


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 22:46
Gah! I love that album. I picked "No Self Control" for Fripp, Kate Bush and Phil Collins' use of the gated drum effect. Did you know that no cymbals were used anywhere on the album?

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 18 2012 at 23:00
^ I believe that piece of info is still somewhere on the album's page on PA.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 01:55
I Don't Remember (which is pretty much how i feel most of the timeSmile)


Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 04:24
Games Without Frontiers is the song that made me a Peter Gabriel fan and it gets my vote. No Self Control is not far behind.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 06:22
Intruder's my favorite, but Lead a Normal Life is a close 2nd.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 06:24
^ "Lead A Normal Life" ... interesting.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 06:28
One day  "Lead a Normal Life" just hit me in the gut.  Such a sad little song of minimalist beauty.

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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 06:41
The whole damn album hits me in strong places but Family Snapshot probably hits hardest. 


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 06:45
^ Never been a fan of that one. I understand what it is about, but ... let's just say that some things are better left unsaid.


Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 06:51
I wish you would say them, though. 


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 07:28
Well, it seems like the character wants to let the world know of himself, but to assassinate someone to do so, ... that's just a little too hard (or strong, whichever word fits) for me.


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 07:46
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Well, it seems like the character wants to let the world know of himself, but to assassinate someone to do so, ... that's just a little too hard (or strong, whichever word fits) for me.
 
.... and that is what makes it such a great song.
 
But ill go with "The Intruder", another one of those twisted minds. 


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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 07:55
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

One day  "Lead a Normal Life" just hit me in the gut.  Such a sad little song of minimalist beauty.
Yeah. Such a great unique little song.


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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
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Posted By: Alitare
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:07
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Well, it seems like the character wants to let the world know of himself, but to assassinate someone to do so, ... that's just a little too hard (or strong, whichever word fits) for me.

Right, and Gabriel, at the end of the song, concedes to that. The ending line 'come back mom and dad' is what ties the entire song together for me.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:10
^ I'm sorry; what do his parents have to do with his mental state?


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:22
I don't remember, I can't recall how that song goes.

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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:23
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ I'm sorry; what do his parents have to do with his mental state?

I'm pretty sure that the one being assassinated is his brother, come back Mom and Dad is the 'least favorite' child trying to win attention from the more favored brother.  In my mind, I never quite figured out if the song was to be taken literally or the passing fantasy of a child's imagination dealing with jealousy of an older sibling.

Family Snapshot wins my vote as well, though I had to think long and hard on 'Lead A Normal Life'.

All in all, this is a fantastic album.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:23
^^ I got no memory of anything at all. How could you forget that?


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:25
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^^ I got no memory of anything at all. How could you forget that?
I was actually referring to Family Snapshot, but I'm glad you got the joke. LOL


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:28
^ A-a-a-a-a-ah! ... . 'Twas a tricky one.


Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:35
can't pick just one!

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 08:36
Biko is my favourite. But it surprises me that Lead a Normal Life has no votes yet; it is one of the best songs on this album.

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 11:15
I think Family Snapshot the guy getting killed is some famous guy, and he's trying to get attention, like he has all his life with hi parents and others, plain and simple.

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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 11:41
So if you believe 'the interwebs'

I remember hearing this song live during the "So" tour.
Peter said "This is a song about assasination". Just as the song started, various people around me were saying "listen to the words".
It is based on "An Assassins Diary", the notes and scribbles of Arthur Bremmer, who shot and crippled Governor George Wallace of Alabama in 1972. He also (earlier) tried to get Nixon.

Read more at  http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/95884/#sQrG71Q5XyORcAbd.99" rel="nofollow - http://www.songmeanings.net/songs/view/95884/#sQrG71Q5XyORcAbd.99  


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 14:02
^ I remember a few guys on that page arguing over whether or not the song was based on the diary's content.


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 14:02
No Self Control. I love when the drums go wild!

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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 14:11
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Biko.

The bass, the pipes, everything is perfect, and his vocal interpretation is powerful

Iván

In a live context, Ivan, I would utterly agree with you. I have seen him perform this a number of times, and the togetherness of the crowd is always guaranteed to send a shiver down your spine.

From the album, though, Family Snapshot has always been my favourite. I think the main reason why is that, as with much of my favourite music, it resonated with me on a deeply personal level. At the time of release, my parents, having got back together after a separation (which involved me leaving my home in Essex for Shropshire, a big move in Enlish geographical terms), were in the deaththroes of the marriage, and it was a very unhappy time for me as a petulant teenager.

That song is also beautifully performed, and still, to this day, hits the mark with me imagining myself as the young man dreaming of assassination and reasoning the act.


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 14:49
Side One
 
Its all good.  I nearly went for Jeux Sans Frontiers as it was a real brilliant demonstration of how you can make a brilliant pop record and not have to drop your trousers to achieve it.  It got in the charts ffs.  And I never thought at the time PG would ever go near them again.
 
But, I went for the one about bees!


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 15:25
^ Bees? Sorry, which one is that?


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 15:35
Games without Frontiers.

I've not listened to this album for many years. I'll have to dig out my gramophone and vinyl copy..

I don't remember and Biko were also very good if memory serves. I bought the first three albums back in the day, but I was never a huge fan of Gabriels solo stuff. Someone posted the vbid for Shock the Monkey on another forum. I really like that song.

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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 15:46
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Bees? Sorry, which one is that?
 
Lights come out
Stars Come Down
Like a Swarm Of Bees
*DRUMS*
 
 
 


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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: November 19 2012 at 18:36
^I don't know how to stop listening to that song.

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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: November 20 2012 at 01:00
great album...a natural progression from II ( Scratch)- No self control with Kate Bush backing PG up in the vocals, ahead of it's time in many respects

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 20 2012 at 01:45
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage akamaisondufromage wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Bees? Sorry, which one is that?
 
Lights come out
Stars Come Down
Like a Swarm Of Bees
*DRUMS*
... and all this time I kept hearing "like the swollen beads" (which is just far out there Big smile). I really gotta check out the lyrics. BTW: I bet that *drums* bit was there to show how the stars hit the ground.


Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: November 20 2012 at 13:15
Family Snapshot closely followed by Intruder and No Self Control.



Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 04:16
Originally posted by geneyesontle geneyesontle wrote:

I have to go with Family Snapshot. Everything is perfect here. All the songs are perfect here. But And Through The Wire is my least favorite.

Exactly this!


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 04:20
Lights come out
Stars Come Down
Like a Swarm Of Beers
 
Beer


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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 19:39
Biko

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 20:30
Jeux sans Frontières

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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: November 22 2012 at 21:01
Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ I'm sorry; what do his parents have to do with his mental state?

I'm pretty sure that the one being assassinated is his brother, come back Mom and Dad is the 'least favorite' child trying to win attention from the more favored brother.  In my mind, I never quite figured out if the song was to be taken literally or the passing fantasy of a child's imagination dealing with jealousy of an older sibling.

Family Snapshot wins my vote as well, though I had to think long and hard on 'Lead A Normal Life'.

All in all, this is a fantastic album.


I always thought of it as a child's fantasy, although it works both ways.  It's just more powerful for me that way.

Family Snapshot gets my vote, too.  One of the most complex and most beautiful songs on the album.


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 07:00
Originally posted by Roland113 Roland113 wrote:

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ I'm sorry; what do his parents have to do with his mental state?

I'm pretty sure that the one being assassinated is his brother, come back Mom and Dad is the 'least favorite' child trying to win attention from the more favored brother.  In my mind, I never quite figured out if the song was to be taken literally or the passing fantasy of a child's imagination dealing with jealousy of an older sibling.

Family Snapshot wins my vote as well, though I had to think long and hard on 'Lead A Normal Life'.

All in all, this is a fantastic album.
 
I dont get any brother, from this song, its a lonely boy, but we dont know if there are other children in the family.
 
Could be a boys fantasy, but the line of thinking in the assassination, relates to me as adult thinking  , seems more likely, than the last part is the assassin thinking back at his childhood after he let the bullit fly.
 
Come back Mum and Dad
You're growing apart
You know that I'm growing up sad
I need some attention
He needs attention, not because the "brother" gets it, but because his parents are growing apart. May be a divorse, may be just a cold relation.
 


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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 10:36
I only know Games Without Frontiers, I Don't Remember and Biko so I won't vote.
I'm not very impressed by the first two songs that I mentioned, and Games Without Frontiers leading the poll doesn't make me very curious about the rest of the album.
Biko is a great song, though, very impressive. Spine chilling.Very, very powerful!


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: November 23 2012 at 11:12
Family Snapshot for me too, partly because we played it with my mates amateur band so I know it in every detail.
 
Lead A Normal Life is also great but also is most of the album, difficult choice!
 
Biko is anthemic and it has a magical effect when played live (I've seen it too), but musically it's not the best IMO. 


Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 11:56
Start? I listened a lot to the album when it was released, and I don’t remember that one. I can’t recall it at all – probably a good reason not to vote for it. It was hard to choose, but in the end I picked Lead a Normal Life, because it’s a fantastic song, because I sometimes sing it when I do the dishes, and because it only had one vote.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 13:07
^ "Start" is pretty good. I actually do remember pretty much all of it. I like the melodies. In fact, I like the chemistry of the melodies with the chords backing the melodies. Of course, it's no reason to vote for it when comparing it with the rest of the album.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 13:26
Lead A Normal Life because that's never going to happen to me Tongue

It's a cool and simple song. The rest are a bit jarring in one way or the other.


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Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 13:45
^ What songs Slartibartfast.

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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 19:27
Originally posted by Progosopher Progosopher wrote:

Last time this topic came up I voted for Biko - PG's most powerful song.  This time I went for Games Without Frontiers.

The same difficult choice I had. I voted for Games Without Frontiers, but I very nearly went for Biko.


Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: November 24 2012 at 19:50
Originally posted by refugee refugee wrote:

Start? I listened a lot to the album when it was released, and I don’t remember that one. I can’t recall it at all – probably a good reason not to vote for it. It was hard to choose, but in the end I picked Lead a Normal Life, because it’s a fantastic song, because I sometimes sing it when I do the dishes, and because it only had one vote.


Start is excellent, in my opinion.  I'm sure you would remember it if you heard it.  Because it's only a little over than a minute long and flows into the next track, you may not have realized it was a separate song.


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Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 13:44
No Self Control. Love the percussion and Kate's witchy backing vocals adds to the general vibe of paranoia.

To be honest, this is probably my favorite "after Lamb" album involving a member of Genesis, although I haven't really listened to enough Hackett solo stuff to be truly decisive. Love it.


Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 13:53
Don't particularly like  Biko (Simple Minds did a  better version) but the rest of the album is great.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 14:02
Wow, great poll idea. Clap His solo stuff is on bar with a lot of 70's Genesis material, in my opinion. Cool
My vote probably goes to Games, which is one of the very first songs I'd ever loved. Heard it on the radio when I was young, and it's kind of stuck with me.


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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 15:16
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Don't particularly like  Biko (Simple Minds did a  better version)


As did Robert Wyatt.


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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: November 25 2012 at 23:56
Family Snapshot



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