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Topic: 2012: The Best Epic?
Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: 2012: The Best Epic?
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 03:02
Criteria to inclusion:
  • Corresponding album with minimum number of ratings: 50
  • Minimum average rating value: 4.00
  • If some album has more than 1 Epic, I've picked the longest one

I believe, if Big Big Train have been stretched just slightly some of their songs on the album of the year, this song would surely win.Wink



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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!




Replies:
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 03:18
Island.
 
Runner-up outside this list: Lover's End Part III: Skellefteå Serenade - Moon Safari
 


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Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 05:36
"Guardian Angel" by Galahad, although the chorus is a bit cheesy, I can not get it out of my head.

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Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus


Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 07:31
Magma


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 07:47
Silent Flight Parliament. I cant between BTBAM actually recorded a song better than the awsome White Walls.

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Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005



Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 09:43
Anathema - Untouchable
Mystery - Pride
Storm Corrosion - Storm Corrosion
Mendel - Absolution
Echolyn - Speaking in Lampblack
Circus Maximus - Last Goodbye
Lithium Dawn - The Price
Circus Maximus - Architect Of Fortune
Flying Colors - Infinite Fire
Silhouette - Breathe
Ne Obliviscaris - Forget Not
Wintersun - Sons of Winter And Stars
Headspace - Daddy f**king Loves You.


From this list, Share the World With Me, easily the best from Sceneries.


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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 13:42
Originally posted by Gallifrey Gallifrey wrote:

Anathema - Untouchable
Mystery - Pride
Storm Corrosion - Storm Corrosion
Mendel - Absolution
Echolyn - Speaking in Lampblack
Circus Maximus - Last Goodbye
Lithium Dawn - The Price
Circus Maximus - Architect Of Fortune
Flying Colors - Infinite Fire
Silhouette - Breathe
Ne Obliviscaris - Forget Not
Wintersun - Sons of Winter And Stars
Headspace - Daddy f**king Loves You.


From this list, Share the World With Me, easily the best from Sceneries.
 As for your suggestions, many of them don't meet my criteria. Nevertheless, thank you!
 
My favourite Epic of the year 2012 is Motorpsycho & Ståle Storløkken's "Through the Veil". Really timeless music!Thumbs Up


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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 14:41
I only know one of those listed, and I can't think of any others, but I do love the "Felicité Thösz" suite, so I gave it a  vote.  Magma commonly beats the competition for me.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 15:55
Magma

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Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 19:36
Gaza by Marillion.

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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!


Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 20:15
Originally posted by Wanorak Wanorak wrote:

Gaza by Marillion.


This



Posted By: Floyd Steely
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 21:23
Hi,
 
I'm not allowed to vote in these polls for some reason, but I sure wish "Note" by Beardfish were included.


Posted By: Floyd Steely
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 21:24
But if I could vote, I'd vote for Magma.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 07 2012 at 21:42
Magma

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Thinking Plague - A Virtuous Man




Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 03:05
Presto Ballet - Relic Of The Modern World (19.12)


Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 04:39
Can - Graublau or anything from Electric Orange's new album XX for me. 

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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 05:48
"World Without End" by Neal Morse

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Nothing can last
there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.




Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 05:59
others 
 The Crush of Night . by IZZ
 Turn Away  by IOEarth
 Utopia by Utopia
 


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Nothing can last
there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.




Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 08 2012 at 20:08
I have to say that I am quite surprised at the glaringly missing "epics" from this list:  I AND THOU's "And I Awaken," KOTEBEL's "Concerto for Piano and Electric Ensemble," THE TEA CLUB's "Firebears,"  MYSTERY's "Another Day," BATTLESTATION's "Prologue: Nature's Morte/You're Not Welcome Here," and NO ANGLAGARD, ASTRA, DIAGONAL or THINKING PLAGUE! These are from 2012! They are incredible! 




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https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 03:17

^ I think the definition of 'epic' would be 15 minutes plus in my book although admittedly the OP offered no guidelines on this.



Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 04:08
Voted for Island from this selection
 
My top epics this year (with no rules):
 
Marillion - Gaza
Echolyn - Island
Presto Ballet - Relic of the modern world (back on form for me)
Landmarq - Calm before the storm
 
 
 


Posted By: Slaughternalia
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 10:49
BTBAM for sure. I'm a bit of a fanboy

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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 11:00
Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

I have to say that I am quite surprised at the glaringly missing "epics" from this list:  I AND THOU's "And I Awaken," KOTEBEL's "Concerto for Piano and Electric Ensemble," THE TEA CLUB's "Firebears,"  MYSTERY's "Another Day," BATTLESTATION's "Prologue: Nature's Morte/You're Not Welcome Here," and NO ANGLAGARD, ASTRA, DIAGONAL or THINKING PLAGUE! These are from 2012! They are incredible! 


Please read properly my criteria. Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard. Some of them didn't get sufficient average rating value (4.00).
 
I didn't want  to exclude purposely any track. But if I would haven't set any criteria, I would have to create a multi-round voting. And I just didn't want to do it.


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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 11:01
BTBAM! The new album is fantastic. 

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 11:01
Originally posted by Slaughternalia Slaughternalia wrote:

BTBAM for sure. I'm a bit of a fanboy

Amen. Handshake


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 16:39
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?


Posted By: dtguitarfan
Date Posted: December 09 2012 at 16:58
"Daddy F***ing Loves You" by Headspace.  After reading what it was about in an interview, it makes me tear up now.  But I loved it even before then.

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http://tinyurl.com/cy43zzh" rel="nofollow - My 2012 List


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 11:03
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 14:30
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..


Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 10 2012 at 23:21
Echolyn - Island


Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 11 2012 at 01:43
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.

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A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!



Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 05:59
Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.
Gandalf, your perception of Epic is quite right in terms of meaning something historic, special, most memorable and written inc. poetry, however I believe other members above are right too, it depends on the context I suppose because EPIC is derived from the Latin word Epicus and Greek word Epikos which means speech, written, song/music. Epic is something remarkable, highlight/ happening, instrumentals too can take us back in time, become most memorable, sometimes even more so than lyrics.   
 

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 09 2013 at 14:25
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by Gandalff Gandalff wrote:

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.
Gandalf, your perception of Epic is quite right in terms of meaning something historic, special, most memorable and written inc. poetry, however I believe other members above are right too, it depends on the context I suppose because EPIC is derived from the Latin word Epicus and Greek word Epikos which means speech, written, song/music. Epic is something remarkable, highlight/ happening, instrumentals too can take us back in time, become most memorable, sometimes even more so than lyrics.   
 

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