I think Echolyn should be changed to Eclectic Prog
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Topic: I think Echolyn should be changed to Eclectic Prog
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Subject: I think Echolyn should be changed to Eclectic Prog
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:25
| Just my opinion here of course but I don't think Echolyn should be labelled as symphonic prog. If they are symphonic, and I admit they do have those elements, they are certainly not typical symphonic prog(ie no mellotron). Some of their albums like "mei" have strong symphonic qualities but other than their first two albums and "mei" I really strongly feel that the symphonic tag is inappropriate for Echolyn. They have done some stuff that is hard edged, almost alternative sounding etc. Symphonic was never the major focus of their sound but instead it was the diversity and the songwriting. The band were very eclectic and most of their albums are different from eachother. I am very familiar with this band's body of work and I strongly suggest changing their tag to "eclectic prog" instead of "symphonic prog." Thanks for your consideration. |
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:25
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I think they are were they belong. Very sure. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:27
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No way. Did you even read what I just wrote? Since you replied so fast I seriously doubt it. I really think they should be eclectic prog. Lot's of eclectic prog bands have symphonic elements like Echolyn but over all symphonic is NOT an appropriate tag for them. Even crossover prog would be more appropriate for them than symphonic prog. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:29
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Having listened to their albums i'm sure. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:30
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You have heard all of their albums more than once? I would say anyone who labels them as symphonic prog does not know what symphonic prog is. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:32
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I've heard their new one multiple times as well as Suffocating and The End is Beautiful. Their style, while retaining that edge they sometimes show, is still symphonic - just because they aren't constantly sounding like a glossy, keyboard-soaked band doesn't make them eclectic.
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:37
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Here's the break down: first album: a few symph songs and a couple with some symph moments. Second album: some symphonic songs and some symph qualities here and there. As the world: Very complex song oriented prog with a strong GG influence. No real symph qualities here except maybe just a little bit here and there. Cowboy poems free: no strong symph here either but instead a more modern song oriented prog with some mild alternative sounding songs. Over all not symphonic. Mei: a chamber orchestra is on here but it's more classical window dressing than full on symph and the classical element is mostly used as backing. The end is beautiful: hard edged modern rock/prog. No strong symph qualities here either. The new self titled. Some symph qualities but not enough for the label. The verdict? NOT A SYMPH PROG BAND. This is not a negative anti symph statement. I love Echolyn and I love symph prog but they aren't symph prog. Sorry to those who think it's important for them to have that label but I'm just telling it as it is. They are mislabeled plain and simple. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:39
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I'm not a huge fan anyway, i would get someone like Epignosis to respond and post his opinion. It seems i haven't listened enough. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:42
| this should probably be in Help Improve the Site |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:42
No, you just like to argue.  If you don't think Echolyn are eclectic then I have to say that you don't know what eclectic means. |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:43
| Feel free to move it Atavachron. Now I know for next time. Thanks. |
Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 21:52
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Wow! Two "does this band belong in eclectic" threads this week! I like Echolyn, and although I'm not as familiar with their music as some others, it seems to me that eclectic would be a good tag for them. They don't seem as much eclectic, though, as just having a really unique and quirky take on prog that's completely their own. That being said, I don't think they're a misfit in symphonic or anything. If anything, I like having them there because it adds more variety to the genre. ------------- I love dogs, I've always loved dogs |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 22:30
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I'm fine with them in symphonic. Not that I decided these things of course. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:35
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Well I just stated my opinion. It's up to the higher ups now. I remember having an argument a long time ago with a woman(she probably wasn't super knowledgable about prog or a hardcore fan though)about whether Yes are symphonic or not. She almost angrily insisted that Yes are not symphonic. In no way could I ever convince her that Yes are symphonic. We disagreed. told her I thought Yes are symphonic. If I didn't say it I should have told her that the main thing is it didn't matter what we thought but that Yes are generally considered symphonic prog. That's the bottom line. Yes aren't as symphonic as Genesis imo or as much as certain neo prog bands(IQ for example)but still deserve the symphonic tag. For me a band like Yes just barely fit symphonic but they do qualify. I would say that Echolyn are even less(quite a bit less imo)of a symphonic band than Yes. Having spoken to the members of Echolyn on several occasions(not to mention interviewing them)I can tell you with little hesitation that's it's extremely unlikely they think of themselves as symph prog. In fact I'm pretty sure they don't want to be put in any particular box. Their music imo has more of the qualities of an eclectic band, who try many different styles and sounds, rather than what your typical symphonic band does. |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 02:58
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PA system tags the band, not their albums, and therefore in principle it tags the band according to their debut or very first albums. Later changes in style are not reflected in the band tagging, otherwise we could argue that Genesis should be in Crossover or so many other cases. Only for obscure bands added only after a significant discography can their whole history be evaluated for their initial tagging. From this perspective Symph is OK for me.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 05:36
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Variation is style from album to album is not necessarily eclectic. If that were true then practically every band who released more than one album or who had been around for several years would end up in Eclectic, and that includes Genesis, Yes, ELP, Floyd, Tull and even Tangerine Dream.
If there is any variation in style then the band should be found where their most popular albums would place them and where most listeners would expect them to be. On that basis Symphonic is most appropriate for Echolyn. ------------- What? |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 15:55
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Eclectic ? I only hear progressive rock in their music. Never heard them play funk, or soul, or classical music, or rap, or metal, or blues. I do admit that we can hear jazz (lunch in the sun) and folk on '...and every blossom', but you can hear folk and jazz in virtually every prog rock band. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:02
Echolyn are excellent, I would never classify them as eclectic tho'  unless my perception of eclectic is wrong. Also every album is quite different from the other but that is not consideret eclectic either.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:10
actually Sonia when every album sounds different it is indeed eclectic ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Kati wrote:Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:29
Nope sweetheart, sounding different means they took a different direction not necessary eclectic. I think eclectic means a lot of key changes within one track not album, most times heavy use of hammond organ or mellotron/novatron, oddest key changes, some tracks I'd call them marmite tracks coz some might like it but a lot won't, also not very radio friendly,
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:41
look up the definition of Eclectic, Sonia and you'll see what I mean but I see what you mean it's not restricted to just one song though ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 16:42
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examples of bands eclectic in the spirit : Mr. Bungle Dixie Dregs Praxis Mike Oldfield Curisouly, none of these bands is tagged "eclectic" in PA (and Praxis are not yet here). VDGG and King crimson are actually "dark" prog, not really eclectic. They are as eclectic as Rush. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Monadology
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 21:31
You don't hear any jazz or metal in The End is Beautiful? No blues in their latest self-titled? I'm not arguing they should go in eclectic, I'm not sure what the best fit is, but these sorts of statements seem a bit reactionary. echolyn's more recent work is not typical symphonic, even if you think that's where they belong. |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 22:20
Well if that's the case then why are Porcupine Tree tagged as heavy prog and not psych/space prog? |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 22:39
Ok now I am confused, I am lucky and proud to have the new album from Echolyn, signed and sent by Tom Hyatt from Echolyn. I love the band but never came to my mind as being eclectic. Can anyone please describe to me what is perceived here as eclectic? 
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 22:49
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Well it's just my opinion. The latest one might be their most symphonic or tradtional prog sounding in while. I just don't hear a lot of symphonic elements in the majority of their music. They seem pretty diverse to me. Others don't see it that way so I'll just have to live with them being labelled symphonic on here. No big deal I guess. Tom is a cool guy. I actually live in the same general area as Echolyn, know the guys personally fairly well, have seen them several times in concert, hung out with them and drank some beers with them backstage at Progday, helped them move some of their instruments on stage and interviewed them last summer. echolyninterview.blogspot.com I might get in trouble for posting that here but there it is anyway. They are pretty friendly guys. Tom, Brett and Chris were interviewed by myself online(although I told some of them beforehand in person I was doing it)while the other two were not as internet savy but I'm sure they were grateful in their own way even though one of them did did steal one of my nachos. :P Still a great bunch of guys though and very talented musicians. |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 22:57
hahahaha how dare they steal your nachos!!! umphf!
  Tom is nice and hot!!!  Plus sweet and he loves animals awwwww (go on everyone say... awwwww)  , I posted this on his fb wall too too funny... he is easy to provoke because he is such a nice guy and shy lolol haha!!!  Also he does have a sense of humor/humour |
Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 23:10
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I'd say eclectic too. *cough*
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 23:24
lol that aint THE TRUTH
You must have been smokin' something strange, maybe your scarf and the others their socks. Because Echolyn is crossoverprog and since when is crossover, eclectic? |
Posted By: Federico95
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 04:20
I think that both definitions are correct... But maybe they should be
changed to Eclectic because even if they don't change fifty genres
across a single song, every album is a world apart: the first three are
Symphonic, the EP (now I don't remember the name) is Folk, Mei has
strong classical influences, The End Is Beautiful has Funk, Jazz and
Metal influences and the last one is something like Prog Rock meets
Alternative/Post-Rock... The best thing to do would be to give a genre
for each album but the whole website should be revolutioned for that, so
maybe we should just leave the things how they are 
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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 06:51
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If we start changing every old band from a genre to another because of the evolution in their sound, we'll have a lot of work to do. Especially if we realize that some bands have on their albums songs of different styles. The latest Echolyn's cd has a couple of symphonic songs. I am ok with symphonic, because it's the way i want to remember them... I am not too good with labels, genres, i leave that to the specialist... ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 07:35
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^ exactly.
We (as human beans) classify things so we can store them away for later reference to save us having to go look for them again, so when we find another thing that looks a bit like that thing we store it away alongside the first thing and now we can find both things again when we want them. In time the pile of things that look the same gets bigger and last thing added to the pile might not look much like the first thing but there is a chain of things-added that connects them all together. This collating method is quite useful which is why we do it, it's useful for helping people find a particular thing and its useful for helping people find things that are like other things - it's rediscovery not discovery. It all falls to pieces when we get too choosy about what goes where and start moving things around from pile to pile, now those relationships and connections are broken and whatever rational that formed any particular pile of things is lost - once you move one thing from one pile to another pile lots of other things in the first pile don't have any relationship to any other thing in that pile, so they have to be moved too, except they don't have much in common with all the things in the second pile. So we need to create a miscellaneous pile for all those things that are not directly connected with any of the first things in either pile and once you have a miscellaneous pile everything can fit in that pile and the purpose of classifying and sorting things is no longer valid - we cannot find anything because everything is an unclassified mess.
The "Art Rock" categories like Heavy, Eclectic and Crossover were never miscellaneous piles, they had a purpose and an intent - we all may disagree on what that initial intent was and the rational for adding bands into those categories will have evolved as those categories grew (and the personnel adding bands into them changed) but they are still classified categories whose definitions extend beyond the dictionary definition/etymology of just their names.
As already stated - all Progressive Rock is eclectic, but that is in the adjective use of the word, we must use caution when trying to use it as a noun. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 00:00
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Well I was inadvertently chatting with a woman who he was apparently dating. I don't know if they are still seeing eachother though. I wasn't really trying to pick her up(especially after I found out that she was seeing him) but just being friendly and making small talk. But in all honesty I do have a thing for women(especially attractive ones) who like prog. So if that picture is you then ummmm let's just say that if you didn't live in Mozambique... But don't worry I'll be a gentlman on here and I'm not on here to pick up progchicks. It would be nice to meet a woman and take her to some prog shows or festivals and not have her complain or fall asleep on me though. But back to the discussion that I started, like I said Echolyn did have a few albums early on(maybe the first two and one ep)that could be considered symphonic but really that's about it. As for crossover prog, I'd buy that before symphonic and I would even be happy with that label. When a band is mislabeled like Porcupine Tree also is(they also should be either eclectic or crossover or even psych space) I'm going to say something about it just like you guys all should if it strikes your fancy. |
Posted By: Federico95
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 08:14
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I think that here a band should be labeled as "Eclectic Prog" if it varies through different kind of Prog during their career, and I think that Echolyn did this...
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 12:08
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Just hyphenate all bands as "Whatever Prog-Eclectic" ......also change the site name to
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 15:17
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We do have bands switch genres all the time when it comes to Tech/Extreme to Experimental/Post Metal. Honestly, I would say they are symphonic enough. Very active symphonic. While they do play Gentle Giant inspired parts here and there, they don't change quite as frequently as GG. If they were to change anywhere I would be happy putting them in Xover because they have enough catchy melodies and a sort of "pleasing" quality to their recordings that make it both hard edged and easy going. But really I think we should just leave it where it is. Epignosis and Ivan would probably be the ones to discuss this with. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 15:20
I would say eclectic is a genre that is mostly undefinable without being quite so weird that it goes in Avant. Also, eclectic can also mean that they have moved through so many genres throughout their career that you can't define them either. This works with King Crimson. Echolyn, on the other hand have not had such a varied career. If they went out and released some very strange work that was opposite what they normally do as their next album, I would support eclectic. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 19:44
Hello Smurph,  your alias name reminds me of those cute tiny blue people with white hoods and white pants cute! I am personally don't care what a band's classification is, however for Echolyn fans it should not matter because they know and follow the band no matter what genre. I believe it's a guiding tool for new prospects, thus every album should be classified accordingly in order to direct them there.
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Posted By: AEProgman
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 20:19
Eventually the moving of these "Piles" around will become like this definition: Definition: Piles (properly called hemorrhoids) are painful and/or itchy swollen veins in the rectum. Sorry...  , but I agree and should leave Echolyn as is even though there may be some debateable reasons for re-classification. On a side note, you Site Admin guys do an amazing job on this site and have a thankless job...Thanks!
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 15 2013 at 00:12
Exactly. That's one of my main reasons for thinking they should be in Eclectic. Glad to see others agree with me on this. |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 15 2013 at 01:04
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Well at the end I don't care what Echolyn is classified as long as they get new listers/fans because besides being really nice people they are really good REALLY GOOD musically too!! I have an odd taste not easily pleased and I certainly like them a lot
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: January 15 2013 at 03:01
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I only have the one from Echolyn, Mei, which really is a fantastic album. Going off that one, they are definitely in the right place in symphonic. I really must get more from Echolyn. Any recommendations? |
Posted By: Federico95
Date Posted: January 15 2013 at 08:14
The last album is the best they ever made for me, and I think it is also the best Prog album of the new millennium -------------
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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: January 15 2013 at 08:23
| I've listened to Echolyn since 2000 or so, and have all but their first album and Cowboy Poems Free (gotta fill those holes!). I've been coming to this site since 2004. I didn't realize they were in symphonic until I saw this thread. I really don't care how they are classified, only that they are a great band and that they are certainly prog. I don't really have an issue with symphonic, even if I would say now that it doesn't seem like a perfect fit. It's probably close enough. Eclectic would probably be okay as well, but I don't see a pressing need to change them. |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 15 2013 at 11:13
"Suffocating the Bloom" and "As the World" are pretty essential for any prog fan. |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: January 15 2013 at 11:25
I'm not going to keep going on about my opinion since I stated it several times here. As far as I'm concerned this thread has evolved into a general discussion about Echolyn. As for their first album, it is rare and has never been re-released but it is included in the "a little nonsense now and then" "box" set. I have an autographed copy of that actually. It's worth searching out if you like the band and has some other goodies on it. Cowboy Poems is very good but it's a bit more in the song oriented direction and even a little alternative(but in a good way). I consider myself honored to know the band personally and to have had the opportunity to hang out with them and interview them. Not all musicians are pompous egotistical jerks who don't give a crap about their fans. |
Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: January 16 2013 at 08:47
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Echolyn is symphonic but with touch of "weirdness" (I feel some Gentle Giant influence) I'd say they fall into several categories: symphonic prog, neo prog, heavy prog, eclectic prog the whole classification idea with single category is limited. if the band evolutioned from hard prog to post-electronic-industrial-blah-blah-blah, how it should be classified? |
Posted By: Awakened Stranger
Date Posted: July 08 2015 at 10:54
| I think I agree that Eclectic is a better category. They sound a lot like they cut their musical teeth listening to Gentle Giant, and GG is listed under Eclectic, are they not? |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: July 10 2015 at 07:34
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They should be filed under Neo Prog! (but I am not good at those categorization thingies so I won't say more)
My favourites are their self-named debut with some great compositions like The Great Men and Shades (influenced by early Marillion and Genesis), and the second album Suffocating the Bloom (which contains a nice suite + a bit of 12 tone music). Actually those two albums and Mei are the three albums closest to Symphonic from their whole discography (aww, now I said something about the categories, what I did not wanted...) ------------- http://theprogressiveweb.blogspot.de" rel="nofollow - Visit me in Second Life to talk about music. |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: July 10 2015 at 08:01
No! ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: July 10 2015 at 08:12
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A better answer (than my previous 'No') would be we this. So many bands that were categorized based on their first album or two, or on what ever was their most popular album, or on what ever their most recent album was when they were suggested for inclusion. There are so many different reasons that a band has been categorized where they have been. There's a reason that they are in the genre that they are in now and doing revisionist history doesn't do us any good. Let me give an example, Steven Wilson is tagged as a Crossover Prog artist, this was based on Insurgentes as that was the only album available when he was initially evaluated. After 'The Raven That Refused to Sing' you could have made a strong case that he should be moved to Symphonic. A couple years later he released 'Hand Cannot Erase' which I think is clearly Crossover, so we'd have moved him back? It wouldn't have done any good to have had him moved. There are many bands that were borderline cases for one genre or another. There is enough to do other than reopening debates that were settled years ago. Someone said this before, but can you imagine the chaos of the 'Should Genesis be moved to Crossover' thread? I strongly encourage anyone who is worried about the genre a particular band or especially an album is in, to do a review and describe the music in your terms. I don't see a problem with a review that starts 'this album is more of an eclectic album than a symphonic, and here is why . . . " ------------- -------someone please tell him to delete this line, he looks like a noob------- I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms. |
Posted By: echolynfan
Date Posted: July 20 2015 at 17:11
Great thread and like Prog Traveller live just an hour away from their studio here I've been friends with echolyn since 2000. They really are a fantastic group of guys and humble considering their status in the prog community. I've been lucky to have hung out with them at their studio while they were working on the Window Album which was a great experience! The definition of "Eclectic is: deriving ideas, style, or taste from a broad and diverse range of sources" and I think this describes echolyn perfectly. Chris Buzby has a formal classical music education and I credit him for the wonderful, structured arrangements while the rest of the band gives echolyn it's "American" rock sound. There's just no other band like them. mei could be considered symphonic since they actually had a mini-symphony accompany them at Nearfest 2002 and for their DVD for which I was present at both....it was amazing! echolyn was written up in a book by John Covach "American Rock & The Classical Music Tradition" A great book and there is section on echolyn's album "As The World" written by John Covach who many of you know and also played with Chris Buzby's brother Jonn's band "Land Of Chocolate" (another great albeit short lived band) If you haven't already noticed my thread on echolyn's new album "i heard you listening" coming out this July 31st, 2015 here's a sample: ------------- " Fashions and fads a fictitious flirtation the foremost foundation to fit in" - echolyn (As The World) My Facebook page please LIKE and share! https://www.facebook.com/echolynfan?ref=hl |
Posted By: echolynfan
Date Posted: July 20 2015 at 17:20
The new album "i heard you listening" is nothing like mei but it's IMO the best album they've produced to date...even eclipsing the last album (self titled but known as the Window Album) which I thought they'd never top. There's just no slowing these guys down ...they're just on fire! ------------- " Fashions and fads a fictitious flirtation the foremost foundation to fit in" - echolyn (As The World) My Facebook page please LIKE and share! https://www.facebook.com/echolynfan?ref=hl |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 20 2015 at 18:26
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I listened to Echolyn's new album premiere live here at the time on ProgScape radio http://progscaperadio.com/0524.php" rel="nofollow - http://progscaperadio.com/0524.php
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Posted By: echolynfan
Date Posted: July 20 2015 at 19:21
I still have to listen to those - I'm friends with Mike who does Progscape and he tried to get me to listen to his show before the 24 bit upload but i wouldn't. Except for when I hear snippets of new stuff while with the band I refuse to listen to the end product until release. I'm just weird that way lol I have to ask....how did a young woman like yourself get into prog? Even Brett at a small private concert up in Boston I went to (at Paul Arsenaults house..one of the ProgEars guys) in his living room...said thanks to all the women who came out to the show...it's a rare thing at a progressive show lol. I filmed the entire concert on digital tape and uploaded it to youtube but his comments are at the end of this one: ------------- " Fashions and fads a fictitious flirtation the foremost foundation to fit in" - echolyn (As The World) My Facebook page please LIKE and share! https://www.facebook.com/echolynfan?ref=hl |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 00:38
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Kati is not from this earth. ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 00:40
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Listening to "Vanishing Sun" from the new album, btw! "F*ck!n kill me now!"  ------------- -- Frank Swarbrick Belief is not Truth. |
Posted By: echolynfan
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 16:17
Hahaha...I believe it :) ------------- " Fashions and fads a fictitious flirtation the foremost foundation to fit in" - echolyn (As The World) My Facebook page please LIKE and share! https://www.facebook.com/echolynfan?ref=hl |
Posted By: echolynfan
Date Posted: July 21 2015 at 16:18
Love that tune...along with Once I Get Mine which just jams! Ray writes some pretty depressing stuff on this album...pretty painful in fact. It must be all that Death Metal he listens to lol
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 16:58
lol Infocat, that's right I am a woman, very hard to understand as we seem to be from Venus  Anyway, a 3some group hug here
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 17:23
Venus is all right though, especially the venus mountain. ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 23 2015 at 19:46
mhwoaahhxxxxx
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: July 24 2015 at 00:24
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Hehe - thanks. And you're without doubt my favorite African :-) I'll hit you with some Norwegian melancholy, hope you don't mind. ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 24 2015 at 00:35
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Windhawk]Hehe - thanks. And you're without doubt my favorite African :-) I'll hit you with some Norwegian melancholy, hope you don't mind. [/QUOTE] Olav wow this is new for you I like this actually, vocals too and this is a shocker considering I think most vocalist are not good really lol Ha! I like this a lot not sure if it prog but I like it, the vocals and constant plewn plewm lelelelimlum guitars too :) This vocalist reminds me a lot like the vocalist on Mumford and Sons. here: Mumford & Sons - Lover Of The Light. I love the banjo now
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: July 24 2015 at 00:53
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Hehe, nothing new to me, just one of the many sides of me that you haven't come across yet. I tend to surprise people, even those who have known me for a long time. Mumford was interesting, in an Americana sort of way, and southern at that, nice and emotionally laden. Nice use of the banjo, I'm fond of that instrument when used in a clever manner. Out of curiosity, as someone who generally isn't all that fond of vocals, how do you like older vocal traditions? Here's an example :-) ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: July 24 2015 at 01:02
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Olav I judge vocals as instrumentals and this is certainly not a pub band, sound quality is amazing, but they are a bit heavy loud with an oriental Bollywood feeling tho' :) not my usual preference listening preference overall taste tho' hugs
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Posted By: Windhawk
Date Posted: July 24 2015 at 01:20
hehe, try ancient Norse chants as far as vocal origins goes, with medieval "giant ballads" as the flavoring. The core cultural origins may be traced back to India indeed, although ancient India rather than Bollywood as a matter of fact. But yeah, I know this isn't your turf. This one was a call of curiosity as far as style goes, as chants oriented vocals like this, with a lot of repeated elements, isn't all that common in modern music. Incidentally, I listen to vocals as part of the instrumentation as well. Where I focus on harmonics and how the voice fits into the overall context rather than emotional intensity as such, which is why I've never been able to handle a band like Pavlov's Dog for instance, but why I enjoy for instance Green Carnation - and early Madrugada (the track I posted along with the Green Carnation one). Oh, and *hugs back* ------------- Websites I work with: http://www.progressor.net http://www.houseofprog.com My profile on Mixcloud: https://www.mixcloud.com/haukevind/ |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 02:08
Good point. I am also opposed to too much moving around of artists (and should be only done with caution in extremely rare cases). Many artists try a lot of styles throughout their career, which makes it extremely difficult to categorise an artist as such. Heck, I remember how much Steve Hackett and Peter Gabriel were moved around...  ------------- http://theprogressiveweb.blogspot.de" rel="nofollow - Visit me in Second Life to talk about music. |
Posted By: Awakened Stranger
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 13:23
| I would also like to add a note...why are we so obsessed with "pigeon-holing" artists into a certain category. We should really just take the artists music on its own merits, and not worry about the much less important label we give it. Just sayin'... |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 09 2015 at 13:58
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I think Tom (Rolland113) hit the nail on the head. Now please stop with the bleeping stickers!!!!! They're here for all to see and review.....and it's not like they're lumped in Krautrock either. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 02:02
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ECHILYN ARE HOME HERE... ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: October 31 2015 at 02:03
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ECHILYN ARE HOME HERE... ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: November 19 2015 at 14:41
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you ever love Echolyn or you ???? ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 19 2015 at 14:48
| ^ 3 insightful posts |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 19 2015 at 14:51
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I only have 'As The World'......I'm glad I bumped into this thread again ....it reminded me to ck out their other albums.
btw...someone mentioned neo-prog a few posts back......imho it fits their time frame and style of music for me but bands who get classified here rarely if ever get changed. Listening to the 'window' album right now....pretty damn good stuff. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 05 2016 at 02:24
classic Ehcolyn " As The World " been listen to this band for sometime now really digging them they have a new album out to called " I Hear You Listening " don't now what its like has I don't have a copy of it  yet! the song off of it on the bands website sound great so fingers crossed I`ll be ordering a copy asap which will please ME!...------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |