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Topic: Non-German Krautrock (A-L)Posted By: Gandalff
Subject: Non-German Krautrock (A-L)
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 05:12
This is the third and final part of my "Non" polls, because there is no band or artist playing RPI outside Italy.
It's interesting, how many Krautrock bands are playing outside Germany, the cradle of this Prog Subgenre. So, I have divided this poll into two parts.
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
Replies: Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 05:25
SENSATIONS 'FIX : Portable Madness. Great Italian Kraut
(BTW the japanese band Ballettirosadimacchia has recorded a RPI album in the eighties.
PA reports the legend of Italians living in Germany. They are from Osaka and a Japanese label should have reprinted the album on CD around 2008. I'll post in the error and omission thread.
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 06:25
Brainticket and Lard Free are the only ones I know. I'll go with Brainticket.
Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 07:42
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 07:49
the British Amon Düül made some good albums, especially "Hawk Meets Penguin"
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 14:51
Lard Free
------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
Posted By: mongofa
Date Posted: February 10 2013 at 18:38
I prefer Ammmmmmon Düül to Ammon Düül. I also like Brainticket. "Berrrr-rainticket"
"It's alright!!! It's alright!!"
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 00:20
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 17:19
Tough call between Lard Free and Brainticket. I'll give Lard Free a vote 'cause they need it.
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 11 2013 at 17:20
BaldJean wrote:
the British Amon Düül made some good albums, especially "Hawk Meets Penguin"
True that, i'll take the British Amon Duul over the original Amon Duul.
------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: February 12 2013 at 03:31
mongofa wrote:
I prefer Ammmmmmon Düül to Ammon Düül. I also like Brainticket. "Berrrr-rainticket"
"It's alright!!! It's alright!!"
OK, corrected.
------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: February 13 2013 at 09:36
Heldon (France)
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: February 13 2013 at 12:29
Neu!mann wrote:
Heldon (France)
HELDON
Progressive Electronic • France
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------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel
silivren penna míriel
o menel aglar elenath!
Na-chaered palan-díriel
o galadhremmin ennorath,
Fanuilos, le linnathon
nef aear, sí nef aearon!
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 13 2013 at 12:53
I know that you're using PA's categorisation as your guide for the purposes of the poll, and I like PA's placement for these (even if I would prefer album multi tagging), but I don't treat PA categorisation as the Prog bible. The categories are a handy guide, and useful for making such polls though one needn't agree with the best-fit category placement, but I digress.
Heldon is Krautrock related -- one of my favourite bands too. I wouldn't consider changing the category, but being familiar with the music and Krautrock, I can understand Neu!mann's thinking.
From the last paragraph by Elecgtronic Prog/ Krautrock guru Philippe:
7. During the seventies, German bands were not alone to explore
distinctive musical ideas, experimenting drugs with music, free jazz and
electronic. German first releases received a percussive feedback from
the 70’s underground rock scenes born in France, Swiss, Italy,
England…almost everywhere in Europe. In France, Lard Free is one of the
worthy representative answer to Krautrock’s melting pot of jazz,
psychedelic and electronic influences. The spacey rock of the band in
their three first albums obviously resonates with Krautrock (especially
with the Berlin electronic rock scene). Still in France, the innovative
guitarist Richard Pinhas (both in solo and with his group Heldon) also
explored electronics, molecular machines in an hypnotic repetitive mood
(“Un Rêve Sans Conséquence Spéciale”, “Electronic Guerilla”…)....
Anyway, I'm voting for Lard Free.
By the way, here's the beginning of PA's Lard Free bio by Hugues:
Sean Trane wrote:
]LARD FREE was a bit the project of Gilbert Hartman much the same way
that HELDON was Richard Pinhas's project. Both groups hold many common
points namely highly experimental but yet accessible music that can be
likened to Krautrock, a good understanding of minimalist music such as
TERRY RILEY, constant personnel changes and the same musical influences
namely CAN, ENO and Robert FRIPP. Both Pinhas and Hartman collaborated
on each other's albums.
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: February 14 2013 at 07:54
Ashtray Navigations are UK, not US - I've known them for many years, and once even played in the band.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 15 2013 at 04:54
octopus-4 wrote:
The only band I know, I don't like it (Amon Duul) even thoug I like Amon Duul II a lot
If you like Amon Düül 2 then you should certainly like Amon Düül (UK), especially "Hawk Meets Penguin" and to a certain extent also "Fool Moon". I actually like "Die Lösung" featuring the late Robert Calvert of Hawkwind too. But "Meeting with Men-Machines" is rather weak; it only has one good track, "Brundi Drummer's Nightmare". That track is really exceptional though, here a link:
Don't confuse Amon Düül (UK) with the German Amon Düül, by the way.
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BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue.
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 15 2013 at 12:45
Thanks for the suggestion. Effectively I know only one Amoun Duul album. To me it sounded just like a bunch of trippy hippies playing what was passing by their minds. A funny session (for them) that shouldn't be recorded.
But it's possible that I have missed something or that they have done something better. Only I haven't tried anything else of them.
------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution