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Topic: Battles
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Subject: Battles
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 19:38
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 19:42
When I'm in the mood for them (which is more often lately by far) they're one of my current favorite prog bands. 

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 19:46
Not the greatest.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 19:48
Somewhere between "great band" and "meh".  I have both of their albums but haven't gotten a whole lot out of them yet.  My last listen was to "Mirrored" and that one kind of hit the spot, but "Gloss Drop" has yet to excite me.  I recognize that there's good musicians playing there (I loved John Stanier in Helmet), it just sounds like music on autopilot to me much of the time.

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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 20:02
My favorite band listed under the whole post/math genre. Mirrored is a perfect album in my opinion, though Gloss Drop is also phenomenal.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 20:14
awwwwww yeaaa

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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 20:25
For awhile there Mirrored was logging an awful lot of time in my cd player.




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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 20:43
I love that song "Atlas." Great video too (see below). My big question is: Both of their releases have come out on the Warp record label. (Brian Eno is also signed to Warp now, which has released his last 3 albums.) So why isn't Aphex Twin (i.e. Richard D. James) in PA? Or Boards of Canada or Autechre? The first great Warp Records comp, entitled "Artificial Intelligence," features pictures of the album covers of two bands: Pink Floyd and Kraftwerk, which tells you all you need to know about the Warp record label, its influences, and its key bands (Aphex, BoC, et al). Bjork's in PA; Radiohead's in PA - and well they should be. [On another note: Tori Amos is in PA?! I mean, WTF?!] If it wasn't for Warp and Aphex, Bjork and Radiohead as we know them wouldn't even exist. It's not like the Warp bands and other electronic acts such as the Future Sound of London and The Orb (whose Dr Alex Paterson has also released with Warp) started evolving towards prog. Rather, they *emerged* from prog, and have continued to be edgy and progressive. I hope PA opens up to more electronica in the future. I mean, Jarre and Vangelis and Tangerine Dream were great. But progressive electronica didn't end there. (Mild, gentle) rant over. LOL Anyway, back to the topic. The video:





Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 22:41
A casual fan. I really enjoyed Mirrored, but Gloss Drop did nothing for me.

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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 23:25
4th option.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 21 2013 at 23:32
Never heard them

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 02:58
It took just 55 seconds of the clip posted by jude111 to turn a "Who?" into "Meh". I couldn't stand it any longer.

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 05:45
who

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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 08:09
liked the clip....  I will check them out  Smile

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 08:27
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

It took just 55 seconds of the clip posted by jude111 to turn a "Who?" into "Meh". I couldn't stand it any longer.

It grows on you. Cry BTW, the video is an edited version of the song. The original has a long ambient instrumental section that unfortunately the clip edits out.


Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 13:14
Originally posted by Wanorak Wanorak wrote:

A casual fan. I really enjoyed Mirrored, but Gloss Drop did nothing for me.


This.


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 14:30
God Atlas is so damn groovin' it's unbelievable. 

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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 17:13
Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

who


This


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 18:14
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

I love that song "Atlas." Great video too (see below). My big question is: Both of their releases have come out on the Warp record label. (Brian Eno is also signed to Warp now, which has released his last 3 albums.) So why isn't Aphex Twin (i.e. Richard D. James) in PA? Or Boards of Canada or Autechre? The first great Warp Records comp, entitled "Artificial Intelligence," features pictures of the album covers of two bands: Pink Floyd and Kraftwerk, which tells you all you need to know about the Warp record label, its influences, and its key bands (Aphex, BoC, et al). Bjork's in PA; Radiohead's in PA - and well they should be. [On another note: Tori Amos is in PA?! I mean, WTF?!] If it wasn't for Warp and Aphex, Bjork and Radiohead as we know them wouldn't even exist. It's not like the Warp bands and other electronic acts such as the Future Sound of London and The Orb (whose Dr Alex Paterson has also released with Warp) started evolving towards prog. Rather, they *emerged* from prog, and have continued to be edgy and progressive. I hope PA opens up to more electronica in the future. I mean, Jarre and Vangelis and Tangerine Dream were great. But progressive electronica didn't end there. (Mild, gentle) rant over. LOL Anyway, back to the topic. The video:


Who cares what label they or any other band are on? Aphex Twin gets brought up regularly, so if they're not here already then they've probably been rejected.


As for the poll, no vote. I like them but don't think they're great, so none of the options work for me.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 18:21
I don't know really. I have Mirrored, and it's one of those that only work occasionally. To me they sound like a noisier NEU! (Which coincidentally also is the right way to pronounce Neu in German. It's noi without the sy and bam you've got it;-), which should suit my tastes brilliantly. Though, as it turns out, only on occasion...

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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 20:51
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

 
Who cares what label they or any other band are on? 

Wow, really? There exists in this world great and fantastic independent labels which specialise in introducing and promoting certain sounds or genres and are like the most important thing going on in music. They not only put out local music, but help foster scenes. You want to catch up on what's going on in German minimal techno, and be guaranteed to hear the creme de la creme, then you go to Kompakt, which *started* the whole thing. You want leftfield eerie electronica, check out Tri Angle (Balam Acab, How to Dress Well, Clams Casino, Holy Other). You want among the best dubstep that was being made, you go to Kode9's Hyperdub (Burial, King Midas Sound, The Bug, Mala, Darkstar, Joker, Ikonika). If you want to check out the great pioneering IDM artists, you checked out Warp Records. Some guy in the USA started SST Records, and thanks to this, the world has albums by Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, the Minutemen, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Meat Puppets, Soundgarden... These bands and their albums wouldn't exist in the world today without this label.

In England, a certain small label called 4AD put out albums by no-name bands like the Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, the Pixies, Throwing Muses, the Breeders. These bands didn't stand a chance, and would've never recorded their masterpieces without this label. 4AD current recording artists include Ariel Pink, Bon Iver, Camera Obscura, Deerhunter, Gang Gang Dance, Grimes...

So, yeah, very important, certain independent labels are. Certain jazz labels put out certain kinds of jazz music, and aficionados would purchase albums from these labels knowing very well that the music inside had to be great and important. Fantastic times, fantastic local scenes. These labels are the lifeblood of music.

Warp Records was formed around a group of people promoting a certain vision and aesthetic that was heavily influenced by Kraftwerk and Pink Floyd. Nearly everything put out by this young label is now a classic, and those artists are considered pioneers in so-called IDM. At the very topic is the person considered to be the heir to Brian Eno, and that's Richard D. James, otherwise known as Aphex Twin. The Orb, Aphex ("Selected Ambient Works," 1 & 2), Boards of Canada, Future Sound of London, and so many others are, in fact, progressive electronic.


Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 20:58
Who?

Seriously, I'm aware of their existence, but never heard a single track from them Tongue


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 22 2013 at 20:59
Math-Rock needs more attention. :D

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 05:44
Originally posted by jude111 jude111 wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

 
Who cares what label they or any other band are on? 

Wow, really? There exists in this world great and fantastic independent labels which specialise in introducing and promoting certain sounds or genres and are like the most important thing going on in music. They not only put out local music, but help foster scenes. You want to catch up on what's going on in German minimal techno, and be guaranteed to hear the creme de la creme, then you go to Kompakt, which *started* the whole thing. You want leftfield eerie electronica, check out Tri Angle (Balam Acab, How to Dress Well, Clams Casino, Holy Other). You want among the best dubstep that was being made, you go to Kode9's Hyperdub (Burial, King Midas Sound, The Bug, Mala, Darkstar, Joker, Ikonika). If you want to check out the great pioneering IDM artists, you checked out Warp Records. Some guy in the USA started SST Records, and thanks to this, the world has albums by Sonic Youth, Dinosaur Jr, the Minutemen, Husker Du, Black Flag, the Meat Puppets, Soundgarden... These bands and their albums wouldn't exist in the world today without this label.

In England, a certain small label called 4AD put out albums by no-name bands like the Cocteau Twins, Dead Can Dance, the Pixies, Throwing Muses, the Breeders. These bands didn't stand a chance, and would've never recorded their masterpieces without this label. 4AD current recording artists include Ariel Pink, Bon Iver, Camera Obscura, Deerhunter, Gang Gang Dance, Grimes...

So, yeah, very important, certain independent labels are. Certain jazz labels put out certain kinds of jazz music, and aficionados would purchase albums from these labels knowing very well that the music inside had to be great and important. Fantastic times, fantastic local scenes. These labels are the lifeblood of music.

Warp Records was formed around a group of people promoting a certain vision and aesthetic that was heavily influenced by Kraftwerk and Pink Floyd. Nearly everything put out by this young label is now a classic, and those artists are considered pioneers in so-called IDM. At the very topic is the person considered to be the heir to Brian Eno, and that's Richard D. James, otherwise known as Aphex Twin. The Orb, Aphex ("Selected Ambient Works," 1 & 2), Boards of Canada, Future Sound of London, and so many others are, in fact, progressive electronic.

Just because Saens are on Cyclops doesnt mean I give a damn about any of the other bands on there. I care about whether a bands any good, not who they're signed too. Plus, the majority of bands and styles you mentioned here can be losely called "Electronic", which I detest.


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Posted By: WanderingLogician
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 06:32
I fall under the casual fan label - I have mirrored and love it, when I'm in the mood.

Also, I second everything Jude111 has said. Lifeforms by FSOL or Selected Ambient Works Vol. II by Aphex Twin are as cutting edge and groundbreaking as anything Tangerine Dream or Kraftwerk did.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:17
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

My last listen was to "Mirrored" and that one kind of hit the spot, but "Gloss Drop" has yet to excite me.  I recognize that there's good musicians playing there (I loved John Stanier in Helmet), it just sounds like music on autopilot to me much of the time.

I sort of feel the same Steve. Gloss Drop for that matter, sounds like auto-pilot a lot of the time, still think it's a great album, but certainly not Mirrored? Tyondai will be missed. Smile


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:19
Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 ProgMetaller2112 wrote:

Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

who


This


Another great one from Mirrored - my favourite tune by them. Thumbs Up



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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:21
Race:In is another favorite of mine. 

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:27
Race:In is such an amazing opener. I love the drums on that one. Stanier is a beast. 

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:31
Yea. And pertaining to Gloss Drop - it def seems more tame to me.But i love the almost Krautrock feel of some songs on it.

Plus the vocal songs are all nailed. There are some lesser songs - much like Mirrored. But they don't really drag it down. I used to prefer it to Mirror - but now i'm with the masses, and like Mirrored More it seems. It'll prolly go back and for - and that's a good thing. :D




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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:43
Well, looking back on your review Austin, it certainly sounded like you worshiped the album. Big smile I thought Futura was pretty Kraut influenced though - sounds a lot like circa 73-75 Can.


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:44
It's an awful review. 
I really do love it. I just don't prefer it to Mirrored anymore. at least i've been listened to Mirrored more recently. 


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:47
Gloss Drop, to me, seemed a lot more accessible, and the pop record out of the two, which is a good thing of course.  They didn't lose the complexity and abstract melodies that they gained a reputation for, but the songwriting dynamic was stripped down a bit. I really like it a lot for it's fun and quirky sort of sound though.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: February 23 2013 at 14:48
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

It's an awful review. 
I really do love it. I just don't prefer it to Mirrored anymore. at least i've been listened to Mirrored more recently. 

Dude, what's wrong with it?


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