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Topic: Which cover for Schulze's Picture Music?
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Subject: Which cover for Schulze's Picture Music?
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 16:02
Simple. I've always thought that the picture we use for Klaus Schulze's Picture Music is the wrong one. There were 3 albums in a row of Schulze's that all had a similar warm vibe to them, a red thread, and the cover arts showed that with the coffee brown and slightly Daliesque motivs painted on. I call it the coffee trilogy, yet on PA this visual bond is not easily spotted, as we use the secondary cover with the flower. 
Personally I think we should change it to the one with the man hovering over the chessboard floor.

What do you guys think?

The one we have(also very beautiful yes):

The one I'm proposing:


The other two in the "family" for reference:
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 16:30
Cheesboard cover for sure. The rainbow thing near the bottom is cool on the flower one, but overall it's average to my eyes.


My favorite of the three would be Timewind though.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 16:32
Alright that settles it then.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 16:39
I picked up the 'Flower' cover to this many moons ago - still remains my favourite Klaus cover and album. 


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 16:39
Well i prefer the flower one. I love the colors and the contrasting "glass work" in the bottom left. Though i understand that the proposed one would probably fit better because of the obvious scheme you described. 

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 16:43
Originally posted by Tom Ozric

I picked up the 'Flower' cover to this many moons ago - still remains my favourite Klaus cover and album. 


Hey Tom.

Currently it's my fave as well. I think it's his most psychedelic album, and I just love the way he makes the sequencers slush and drip. Illustrates how versatile they can be, instead of just dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.....


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 16:48
Originally posted by Horizons

Well i prefer the flower one. I love the colors and the contrasting "glass work" in the bottom left. Though i understand that the proposed one would probably fit better because of the obvious scheme you described. 


Well in many ways I prefer the flower work myself, but I think it lacks the same bite and continuity feel of the chessboard one. It's more about what fits with the overall scope of things so to speak.


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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 16:49
I choose the flower one. I simply like it better. Nothing wrong with the other one.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 17:01
I agree with you, David. I just don't like slightly pale colors, ones that are not rich enough for my eye. Not only is the dude-o'er-the-chessboard cover neat in texture, but it also has rich colors and it gives off some kind of a dynamic vibe.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 17:04
Hah I forgot to voteErmm

And thanks for the support Andrey. It's a tie now.


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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 17:18
Didn't the original cover have Klaus' face on it? I think there were four different covers but two of them were similar. Picture Music is my fav of Klaus' solo albums, this poll reminds me that I should report the album year error: it was recorded in 1974 but released in 1975 (1973 is incorrect). 

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 17:20
Originally posted by zravkapt

Didn't the original cover have Klaus' face on it? I think there were four different covers but two of them were similar. Picture Music is my fav of Klaus' solo albums, this poll reminds me that I should report the album year error: it was recorded in 1974 but released in 1975 (1973 is incorrect). 


That's right. There was the this huge thing about who came first with the sequencers, and yes this is Schulze's first album with said device, yet Tangerine Dream predate him with Phaedra.

EDIT: I was referring to the release dateEmbarrassed  I don't know about the face cover though...


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 17:26
I like both covers equally but voted for the chessboard as it fits in with the other two better.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 18:45
On the surface, the flower version is more alluring but upon inspection I find the chessboard more captivating, intriguing, and provocative.  Voted Chessboard.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 19:14
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Originally posted by Tom Ozric

I picked up the 'Flower' cover to this many moons ago - still remains my favourite Klaus cover and album. 


Hey Tom.

Currently it's my fave as well. I think it's his most psychedelic album, and I just love the way he makes the sequencers slush and drip. Illustrates how versatile they can be, instead of just dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun-dun.....
Big smile - Not only the synth work is stellar - his manic drumming on side 2 is awesome.  He just got it all perfect.  And Psychedelic too Wink.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 19:33
Let's interview Klaus again and see what he thinks.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 19:41
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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 20:20
I prefer the chessboard and it's also the one I have.

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 20:38
Isn't there a site rule that we show the "original" album cover?
So which one is that?


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 21:40
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Originally posted by zravkapt

Didn't the original cover have Klaus' face on it? I think there were four different covers but two of them were similar. Picture Music is my fav of Klaus' solo albums, this poll reminds me that I should report the album year error: it was recorded in 1974 but released in 1975 (1973 is incorrect). 


That's right. There was the this huge thing about who came first with the sequencers, and yes this is Schulze's first album with said device, yet Tangerine Dream predate him with Phaedra.

EDIT: I was referring to the release dateEmbarrassed  I don't know about the face cover though...
I understand it was recorded in 1973 but released in 1975. Maybe Klause just said it was recorded in 1973 to prove he was the first.LOL

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 21:53
Okay i have the re-issue of "Picture Music" and Klaus states in the liner notes that it was recorded in 1973 making him the first. There's also a picture of the flower shown by David for this poll but also the picture frame with a picture of a young girl in it. The one corner of the framed picture is stuck in dirt in the middle of massive mud-like field. I like this one.

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Posted By: zravkapt
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 22:42
^Yes, that picture of a girl one was the one I was thinking of. The official KS site says it was recorded in autumn 1974 and released in January 1975.

http://www.klaus-schulze.com/disco/1751pi.htm


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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 02 2013 at 23:16
I prefer the chessboard

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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 15:22
I voted for the chessboard image, because I love the Urs Amann artwork and will always associate him with early Klaus Schulze. But the flower was in fact the original cover art, so I can't complain about it being used here. Apparently Schulze himself had second thoughts about it: why else commission a second cover?

So I guess the chessboard is now the 'official' artwork...at least according to KS.

The 'portrait in the dirt' cover for the same album was for a Brain label budget reissue, part of a cheapie series that included albums by Neu, Cluster, Birth Control and others, all with different artwork from the originals...


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 15:49
Nice piece of info there Michael, thanks man.
I knew about Urs Amann, yet somehow I completely forgot to include it here... wild weekend, that's all I have to say about that.
I didn't know Schulze had second thoughts. News to me.


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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 16:06
Originally posted by Neu!mann

I voted for the chessboard image, because I love the Urs Amann artwork and will always associate him with early Klaus Schulze. But the flower was in fact the original cover art, so I can't complain about it being used here. Apparently Schulze himself had second thoughts about it: why else commission a second cover?

So I guess the chessboard is now the 'official' artwork...at least according to KS.

The 'portrait in the dirt' cover for the same album was for a Brain label budget reissue, part of a cheapie series that included albums by Neu, Cluster, Birth Control and others, all with different artwork from the originals...
Yes thanks for this. I wondered where that cover with the picture in the dirt fit in.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 20:48
In light of this recent knowledge, plus the fact that the chessboard cover is leading with 10, then I think it's fair to change art works. Or am I being too hasty?


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 21:07
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

In light of this recent knowledge, plus the fact that the chessboard cover is leading with 10, then I think it's fair to change art works. Or am I being too hasty?
Dude, you're being too hasty LOL 


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 21:10
I knew it. Sorry man.
I say let's at least wait another 15 minutes or so.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 21:14
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

I knew it. Sorry man.
I say let's at least wait another 15 minutes or so.
How about 20 ???


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 21:17
I'm just pulling your leg Tom. I can wait till Christmas if it means that we all can talk about Klaus Schulze and bib bib music for adults.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 21:31
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

I'm just pulling your leg Tom. I can wait till Christmas if it means that we all can talk about Klaus Schulze and bib bib music for adults.
Nah - no need.  By all means, change the pic - I can see how the Urs Amann 'continuity' factor applies, I'm just used to the weirdo 'flower' cover coz that's what I own and that's the only version I've seen at LP fairs.  My Cyborg cover has a similar strange figure on the cover and some tripped-out landscape in the gatefold.  I also think Adelbert Von Deyen had similar artwork on his albums.......but Picture Music is my ultimate fave from KS.  My Klaus records start with Cyborg (no Irrlicht yet...) all the way up to Audentity.  I also have Kontinuum on CD.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 21:36
Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

I'm just pulling your leg Tom. I can wait till Christmas if it means that we all can talk about Klaus Schulze and bib bib music for adults.
Nah - no need.  By all means, change the pic - I can see how the Urs Amann 'continuity' factor applies, I'm just used to the weirdo 'flower' cover coz that's what I own and that's the only version I've seen at LP fairs.  My Cyborg cover has a similar strange figure on the cover and some tripped-out landscape in the gatefold.  I also think Adelbert Von Deyen had similar artwork on his albums.......but Picture Music is my ultimate fave from KS.  My Klaus records start with Cyborg (no Irrlicht yet...) all the way up to Audentity.  I also have Kontinuum on CD.



I have most of his output, except for some 80s and 90s stuff that I haven't yet had the balls to pay unspeakable prices for.
I have a hard time choosing an absolute fave from him, but lately it has been Picture Music methinks. A year ago it was Blackdance, the year before that Bodylove

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 03 2013 at 21:52
Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

I'm just pulling your leg Tom. I can wait till Christmas if it means that we all can talk about Klaus Schulze and bib bib music for adults.
Nah - no need.  By all means, change the pic - I can see how the Urs Amann 'continuity' factor applies, I'm just used to the weirdo 'flower' cover coz that's what I own and that's the only version I've seen at LP fairs.  My Cyborg cover has a similar strange figure on the cover and some tripped-out landscape in the gatefold.  I also think Adelbert Von Deyen had similar artwork on his albums.......but Picture Music is my ultimate fave from KS.  My Klaus records start with Cyborg (no Irrlicht yet...) all the way up to Audentity.  I also have Kontinuum on CD.



I have most of his output, except for some 80s and 90s stuff that I haven't yet had the balls to pay unspeakable prices for.
I have a hard time choosing an absolute fave from him, but lately it has been Picture Music methinks. A year ago it was Blackdance, the year before that Bodylove
Body Love II I hope - that 'Nowhere Now Here' is a KILLER piece.  Blackdance is top-notch too - when I first heard that one I thought I was flashing back coz the organ was always sliding in pitch LOL - it dodged me right out - but it grew on me like moss on a granite boulder and I've never looked back.............


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 14:11
Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

I'm just pulling your leg Tom. I can wait till Christmas if it means that we all can talk about Klaus Schulze and bib bib music for adults.
Nah - no need.  By all means, change the pic - I can see how the Urs Amann 'continuity' factor applies, I'm just used to the weirdo 'flower' cover coz that's what I own and that's the only version I've seen at LP fairs.  My Cyborg cover has a similar strange figure on the cover and some tripped-out landscape in the gatefold.  I also think Adelbert Von Deyen had similar artwork on his albums.......but Picture Music is my ultimate fave from KS.  My Klaus records start with Cyborg (no Irrlicht yet...) all the way up to Audentity.  I also have Kontinuum on CD.



I have most of his output, except for some 80s and 90s stuff that I haven't yet had the balls to pay unspeakable prices for.
I have a hard time choosing an absolute fave from him, but lately it has been Picture Music methinks. A year ago it was Blackdance, the year before that Bodylove
Body Love II I hope - that 'Nowhere Now Here' is a KILLER piece.  Blackdance is top-notch too - when I first heard that one I thought I was flashing back coz the organ was always sliding in pitch LOL - it dodged me right out - but it grew on me like moss on a granite boulder and I've never looked back.............


Bodylove 1 actually. Love at first listen, and it still holds a very special place in my heart. There's a serene vibe to it, that is somewhat endemic to that first soundtrack methinks. Also I think I prefer Michael Shrieve over Harald Grosskopf on the drumsBig smile


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Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 19:00
By the way, David, there's a precedent for not using the original cover...the image for Cyborg on the KS pages here (mentioned by Tom a few posts up) is not the one that appeared on the earliest Kosmische Musik Label release, which showed this unflattering portrait instead:



The familiar Urs Amann artwork for Cyborg appeared on the Brain Records reissue, which came out later the same year (although the current CD version reverted back to the trippy photo above, sadly...) So the 'flower' cover of Picture Music does sort of break the uniformity, doesn't it..?


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 13:21
^LOL
yeah I've seen that one too. How that ever got into print is beyond me...


So how does people feel about me taking this to the errors/cover thingy thread, or should I wait a while and see if more folks want to vote?


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 14:26
^ Whatever your good judgment tells you.

Also, what's wrong with that version of a cover for Cyborg?

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