Battle of the Hipsters
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Topic: Battle of the Hipsters
Posted By: Failcore
Subject: Battle of the Hipsters
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 23:13
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I left out some obvious choices such as TMV, Radiohead, and the Decemberists in order to be fair. I generally loathe hipsters and a lot of their music, but I like the more interesting, less cutesy side of hipster music a great deal, I must admit.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 23:15
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The hell is this? Anyway i voted Red Sparowes. Emma Ruth Rundle 4 life. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: RedNightmareKing
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 23:16
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I'm a huge Intronaut fan, so they gain my vote. Explosions in the Sky caught my eye, and I don't think they're too hipster comparing the fact that they're one of the more well known post-rock bands and that their music has been featured on TV quite a bit. Good poll though.
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 23:24
EitS is hipster music. They just listened to them before they were cool.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 23:32
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Anathema, followed by the Gathering for me. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 04 2013 at 23:54
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I am not sure what a hipster really is, if anything, but I voted for the Ozrics (not to be confused with their American cousins, the Osmonds). ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 00:08
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=808&q=hipsters&oq=hipsters&gs_l=img.3..0l10.995.4735.0.4880.16.10.3.2.2.0.238.1271.2j6j1.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.5.img.0b7f9nG3tec" rel="nofollow - http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1600&bih=808&q=hipsters&oq=hipsters&gs_l=img.3..0l10.995.4735.0.4880.16.10.3.2.2.0.238.1271.2j6j1.9.0...0.0...1ac.1.5.img.0b7f9nG3tec
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 00:53
My thoughts as well, anyways, I'm voting for the Ozrics |
Horizons wrote:Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 01:48
I h8 hipsters 
------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 02:38
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Ozrics ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 06:49
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Gojira. /thread] |
Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 07:21
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Cynic is a hipster band? When did that happen?
"Hipster" seems to have evolved into this general somewhat derogatory term that doesn't really mean anything anymore.
No vote.
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 09:00
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I guess I have no idea what Hipster means but my there are a lot of very kool bands listed here Explosions get my vote but I also love Anathema, Red Sparowes, Ozrics and Pelican ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 09:08
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Explosions, Anathema and Cynic tied Red Sparrows and Gojira with honorable mentions |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 09:13
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 09:13
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Ostrich Tonsils for me. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 09:18
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What on earth do any of these bands have ado with hipster? Maybe you just wanted a flashy title to attract some attention to your poll. |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 09:45
I was thinking the exact same thing. Anyway, voted for Intronaut, amazing band. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005  |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 10:31
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Pelican. Because hipsters are trousers, and a pelican in trousers would be amazing to see. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 10:35
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I thought hipsters were a kind of underwear for women who don't fancy g-strings... Seem to remember a girl I was fooling around with who wore them. Kinda like hot pants with those feminine fiddly bits that always have to be somewhere on female underwear. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 11:34
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From what I can tell, "hipsters" is a term that's popped up on the Internet, and particularly Youtube, when net users view other people having fun at concerts and clubs. It's the only place I've seen this word bandied about, on the comments section of Youtube videos. As in, "Oh, look at all those hipsters standing around looking silly at that Four Tet concert." Those who use this term may be strongly related to HL Mencken's definition of a puritan: The sneaking suspicion that someone, somewhere, may be having fun. Another way of putting it: hipsters is what suburbanites call urban dwellers. The irony is that this new use of a rather outdated term could only be used by what could be termed "hipsters." In this context, saying I hate hipsters is tantamount to saying I hate myself.
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 11:42
Judging by these photos, 'hipsters' are what Americans call that small minority of Americans with style and fashion sense. As in, "Oh, look at that dude wearing a scarf, he must be gay or European. What a hipster." ["Gay or European": haha - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pCybcpkm5c" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9pCybcpkm5c ]
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 12:11
Just like indie, or emo. Since when are the Ozrics hipster anyway? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 12:21
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Gojira? Hipster? Since when? Anyway, it's Anathema for me out of this list. ------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 13:14
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I, too, am uncertain as to what constitutes a "hipster." According to the web page you linked us to, it seems "hipster" is a fashion statement? Is that right? So, do the bands you listed in your poll dress like this? And, if so, why does this matter? They look comfortable in their post-Flashdance, neo-philosopher, pseudo back-to-nature geek apparel. How does this impact their musical choices, much less a band's musical stylings? I'm really still not getting this "hipster" thing. Guess I'll continue to do my research. Is the "hipster" of today like the Glammers or Preppies or Greasers or Beatniks of their eras? One of my daughters (age 19) uses this term a lot but I thought she was referring to a type of person who tries to act like something because they think it's the in trend but they're really not the "hippies' they think/wannabe. Is that close to your definition of "hipster"?? ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 13:18
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I thought a "hipster" listened to certain music because it was ironic to do so.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 13:22
Sometimes I like music for it's crappiness, but it's a very, very small percentage of my music listening, most crap I find to be...... crap. Does this exclude me from being a hipster? Are you saying the bands in the poll list are crappy? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 15:19
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I don't know (or really care) what is cool, but I DO like Ozric Tentacles. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 15:58
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The surest way to identify a hipster is by how often he or she says they hate hipsters. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 20:05
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Wow there's a whole lot of butthurt here, haha. Really surprised Ozrics are blowing away everyone else. -------------
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 20:11
Why thank you, that's why I chose it! Nice to see someone really gets me!  -------------
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Posted By: MattGuitat
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 22:19
Pink Floyd because of the cool cover with the triangle and colors. So non-mainstream, might buy the T-shirt, who needs to buy the album? 
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Posted By: Any Colour You Like
Date Posted: March 05 2013 at 23:06
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lol, if you recognise more than one of these bands, there is a fair chance you're a hipster. If you own anything from these artists, you might want to take off your fedora and pat yourself on the head. You have good taste. So what? Pelican for me.
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Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 03:22
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When you think about it, all prog is hipster to some degree. I vote Ozrics. ------------- I am currently digging: Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 04:23
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All prog is trousers? ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 08:49
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Ok, so Ozric Tentacles have made the same album 24 times in a row now, and that somehow makes them a hipster band? ------------- 
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 08:55
You ever read any Kerouac? The term hipster's been around a long while. I remember in the 90s, on Seinfeld, Elaine called Kramer a "hipster doofus." It isn't a new term: From Wikipedia: "Hipster or hepcat, as used in the 1940s, referred to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_%28person%29" rel="nofollow - aficionados of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz" rel="nofollow - jazz , in particular http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebop" rel="nofollow - bebop , which became popular in the early 1940s. The hipster adopted the lifestyle of the jazz musician, including some or all of the following: dress, slang, use of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29" rel="nofollow - cannabis and other drugs, relaxed attitude, sarcastic humor, self-imposed poverty and relaxed sexual codes." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%281940s_subculture%29" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture) |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:29
| Almost every hipster I know only listens to Explosions in the Sky from this list, and I'd never actually consider them a hipster band. Isn't "hipster music" indie and folk rock? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:36
First time I heard the expression applied to music fans, it was about those people who take pride in listening to the most out there, unnatural and unlistenable - all the stuff most others love to hate. The classic example is Captain Beefheart's Trout Mask Replica, which many people call anti music and furthermore deem fans of said record liars, because there is in fact nothing to like about it, it's not even music! People who like Trout Mask Replica were the original hipsters in the way I understand the word in regards to music. The same applies to Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music or the second side of Ummagumma actually. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:49
The term hipster originates from the post-WW2 bebop era of Charlie Parker and Beat Literature. From Wikipedia: "Hipster or hepcat, as used in the 1940s, referred to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_%28person%29" rel="nofollow - aficionados of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz" rel="nofollow - jazz , in particular http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebop" rel="nofollow - bebop , which became popular in the early 1940s. The hipster adopted the lifestyle of the jazz musician, including some or all of the following: dress, slang, use of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29" rel="nofollow - cannabis and other drugs, relaxed attitude, sarcastic humor, self-imposed poverty and relaxed sexual codes." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%281940s_subculture%29" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture)
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:50
The term hipster originates from the post-WW2 bebop era of Charlie "Bird" Parker and the Beat writers. From Wikipedia: "Hipster or hepcat, as used in the 1940s, referred to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_%28person%29" rel="nofollow - aficionados of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz" rel="nofollow - jazz , in particular http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bebop" rel="nofollow - bebop , which became popular in the early 1940s. The hipster adopted the lifestyle of the jazz musician, including some or all of the following: dress, slang, use of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_%28drug%29" rel="nofollow - cannabis and other drugs, relaxed attitude, sarcastic humor, self-imposed poverty and relaxed sexual codes." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%281940s_subculture%29" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_(1940s_subculture)
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 11:54
I'm aware of that. I mean the modern meaning of the term.
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 12:05
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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 12:10
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Anathema live was awesome (on a boat on the Danube) but I love Ozrics too ------------- I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth. |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 12:33
Is this serious? "Modern" meaning "current". mod·ernadjective 1. of or pertaining to present and recent time; not ancient orremote: modern city life. 2. characteristic of present and recent time; contemporary; notantiquated or obsolete: modern viewpoints. 3. of or pertaining to the historical period following the MiddleAges: modern European history. 4. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of contemporary styles of art, literature, music, etc., that reject traditionally accepted orsanctioned forms and emphasize individual experimentation and sensibility. |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 12:44
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 12:45
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If we live in a post-modern world, then what kind of world will we be in in 20-30 years? Isn't modern like current? Modern jazz is not really modern anymore, as it's going on 60-70 years old now. How can we live in a post-modern world when we are living in a modern world right now with all the gizmos and gadgets we love so much? The "post" tag means it's not happening anymore, and is the time afterwards. Post-industrial makes sense because we're not a society of factory workers anymore. Like "post-rock" is supposed to mean "after rock", yet, it still sounds like rock to me, just more depressing sounding. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 14:50
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 15:05
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Forget HIpsterism vs modernism - we want Bananarama! ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 15:15
I'm fully aware that within the context of art and literary history, there is a period referred to as "Modern". I prefer not to act like an art historian when I converse on a daily basis, and I think most people would appreciate this decision. |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 15:22
 You're right, sorry about that  |
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 15:29
No worries. You were right of course about what you were saying.
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 15:40
I get carried away sometimes posting. Too much time on my hands
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 16:57
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Poor Red Sparowes...
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 17:02
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In all seriousness, it wasn't my intent to start a huge brouhaha over the definition of a hipster; that was just tongue-in-cheek. It just seemed to me that these bands, despite being vastly different, still share some common qualities, mainly being more passive, introspective music, so I thought it would be neat to compare them. But then the internet hate machine happened. The hipster link came from the fact that many of the people who make up a certain sect of popular counterculture that has been commonly labeled as hipster seem to be attracted to that type of music, for many hypothetical reasons (many of them having to do with consumption of less than legal substances). The reason I sometimes find myself at odds with the so-called "hipsters" is that it seems that some of them express conformism under the guise of non-conformism, which I find disingenuous. Now, in big letters: I WAS NOT INSULTING ANY OF THE BANDS LISTED HERE!!!!! I happen to love them all and don't care if they are hipsters or not. -------------
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 18:53
At least someone realizes their awesomeness. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 06 2013 at 23:58
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They're not a huge favorite of mine, but I do like them, especially when I have that Red Sparowes feel. And also, I think they are one of the more unique and unconventional PR acts out there.
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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: March 07 2013 at 06:48
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: March 07 2013 at 16:48
If I am included in the group called, "the internet hate machine," I am so sorry! I, too, love all of these bands and I am genuinely curious about the "hipster" moniker! I've been truly educated by this thread and really appreciate the learning experience herein! My posts were never intended as "hateful" or even sarcastic: I had never heard of the category you referred to as "hipster bands" and wondered why these particular bands have been so labelled. Again, I have been educated and for that I am grateful. (My above referred-to daughter, I've found, though sometimes using the term "hipster" derrogatorily [even calling me a hipster!], owns quite a little Post Rock music.) Anyway, again, FAILCORE and others, I apologize profusely if I have contributed in any way to any anxiety or even surprise on your part. My intentions were quite far from critical--more quizzical. P.S. I voted for Red Sparowes: I LOVE their political motivations. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 07 2013 at 16:52
Nah, it's all cool, you're fine. Your post was fine. Really I shouldn't care at all even if you had though, I just had a migraine headache and when I reread all the negative comments, it made me extremely angry for about 5 minutes. -------------
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: March 07 2013 at 19:29
| I apologize as well and love you all. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 07 2013 at 19:50
| I don't get this poll at all. But Anathema. |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 10 2013 at 00:08
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Explosions are good. Also, HIPSTERS DONT EXIST. ------------- 
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