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Tom Waits vs Procol Harum

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Topic: Tom Waits vs Procol Harum
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Tom Waits vs Procol Harum
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 19:25
Hie

just to share one of my odd pairing, I found Tom an Procol deal with many similar topics and genre styles, blues, see chanteys, symphonic, gypsy/romani people music  , chanson, jazz, baroque, and characteristic voices of the singers,

often dark and cabaret and theater influenced   

do anyone else find similar elements or traits between Procol Harum and Tom Waits?


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 19:44
PH if I must choose.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 19:46
Come to think of it, Keith Reid's lyrics do often have a desperate, degenerate tone to them, as do Tom Waits' lyrics.  Especially when they sing about being drunk.

I'll pick Procol Harum. Waits is a supreme badass but I love Procol.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 20:02
Tom Waits by far. Everything that guy puts out is gold. 

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 24 2013 at 20:32
Devil Dolls is heavy influenced by both i will dare say

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 12:54
bump

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 12:58
Couldn't get into Tom Waits' music yet.
I choose Procol.


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 13:11
Really like both but I will go with Tom Waitz whoever he iz?
Big smile 
 


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 13:14
he iz waitsing for tanzing der walttzs

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: March 25 2013 at 23:09
I chose both. But while I listened to Procol Harum more in the 70s and 80s, I've listened to Waits more in the past decade or so.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 11:16
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

I chose both. But while I listened to Procol Harum more in the 70s and 80s, I've listened to Waits more in the past decade or so.
can you hear their influence in Kaizers and in Major Parkinson

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 26 2013 at 23:01
Procol for me.......been into them from day one and I have never been able to 'get into' Waits....though I have liked various tracks over the years.

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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: March 27 2013 at 00:44
Love Procol, but Waits as an artist has an unbelievable discography of very consistent quality and with so much ground explored. He gets my vote.


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: March 27 2013 at 02:20
Voted for PH, Mr Waits' catalogue is so boring imho.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 20 2014 at 19:22
Just want to give this sone life

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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: January 20 2014 at 21:17
Procol Harum


Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: January 20 2014 at 21:54
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Tom Waits by far. Everything that guy puts out is gold. 


Agreed. Procol Harum only ever released one album that I'm actually into...


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 05:51
Originally posted by aginor aginor wrote:


do anyone else find similar elements or traits between Procol Harum and Tom Waits?


Both carbon based mammalian lifeforms who sing in English? Just two of an infinite number of rock artists who have embraced soul, blues and R'N'B in their work?

Nope. I think yer just having' a laff.Wink
(maybe a poll Tom Waits vs Captain Beefheart would have been more credible?)



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 06:00
There's often guitar in their tunes as well as other rock instruments. Are those the similarities you're referring to Agi?Clown

Ahem, yeah I don't really hear any similarities between the two. Raspy cookie monster does experimental ramble tamble blues rock and then you've got the inventors of double cream rock with big orgiastic keys and triumphant almost heroic instrumental sections. Pretty long ways from each other methinks.

I choose the double cream btw.


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 06:26
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

There's often guitar in their tunes as well as other rock instruments. Are those the similarities you're referring to Agi?Clown
Ahem, yeah I don't really hear any similarities between the two. Raspy cookie monster does experimental ramble tamble blues rock and then you've got the inventors of double cream rock with big orgiastic keys and triumphant almost heroic instrumental sections. Pretty long ways from each other methinks.
I choose the double cream btw.
1) dark lyrics, 2) albums feels like dark cabarettes , dark theaters, 3) i feel both should be regarded as influence to the Devil Dolls, ) any rock and metql act who use element from theatre and circus, often very heavy ibstrumned Diablo Swing Orchestra, i look to albums like Grand Hotel, Home and the afruit albums could/should be seen as stepping stones for the development of cirkus/avan garde metal of DSO and SGM and Unexpect .

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 06:38
But by that definition you could cobble thousands upon thousands of acts together. Procol Harum and Avril Lavigne (dark lyrics) Tom Waits and Igor Wakhevitch (cabaret/theatrical darkness). 
Nevermind Agi, I was trying to understand a little better. Hell most of the musical comparisons I make inside my head is probably nigh on incomprehensible to folks on the outsideLOL 


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