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Topic: Directors
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Subject: Directors
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 00:14
Alright, so here's a bunch of favourites here. Tommy Wis may or may not be a serious choice. Wink


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 00:19
All of these have films I like but the Coens are the only ones I like everything I've seen of

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 04:12
From the list Lynch. From not the list, Terry Gilliam:
 
Monty Python and the Holy Grail (1975) (co-directed with Terry Jones)
Jabberwocky (1977)
Time Bandits (1981)
Brazil (1985)
The Adventures of Baron Munchausen (1988)
The Fisher King (1991)
12 Monkeys (1995)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas (1998)
The Brothers Grimm (2005)
Tideland (2005)
The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus (2009)
 


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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 04:51
How about trash-tastic directors like Albert Pyun?! So much B-grade goodness, like the early 90's cyberpunk schlock classic `Nemesis'!



Either that, or the best action film-maker working today Isaac Florentine!

Heh, sorry, I aim a little lower than most of the director's work mentioned above!


Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 05:23
David Lynch has always been my all-time favourite. In this poll he's followed by Kubrick and Fincher.

The only film by Quentin Tarantino which I have found fully enjoyable was Reservoir Dogs, the rest is either very pretentious yet not bad (Pulp Fiction), or it's simply boring for me (Jackie Brown).

Chris Nolan is pretty overrated. 'Following' was a great film noir, 'Memento' had its strong moments as well. But his Batman movies are rather 'intellectual soothers' as I call them, because they look very fabulous, with great director's and camera work, but they are too pretentious in terms of morality, claiming for deep sense which is mostly omitted or dull. And his third Batman movie was a disaster after 'Dark Knight'.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 05:36
I'm going for the obvious. Stanley Kubrick. He may not have been the most productive, but what he did was always impeccable.

I am really pleased that Dean mentioned Gilliam as he probably is tied with Kubrick as my absolute favourite movie directors.
The Doctor Parnassus flick from 09 seems to have been completely overlooked by audiences for reasons unknown, but personally I find it to be a genuine masterpiece of modern day cinema. Doctor Faustos meets Alice in Wonderland with a scoop of Tom Waits on the side. Yummy.

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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 05:42
^I love Terry Gilliam as well.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 05:48
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

How about trash-tastic directors like Albert Pyun?! So much B-grade goodness, like the early 90's cyberpunk schlock classic `Nemesis'!



Either that, or the best action film-maker working today Isaac Florentine!

Heh, sorry, I aim a little lower than most of the director's work mentioned above!



I like your style Kanguru!
One of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life, also seems to be the one that made me laugh the most. I believe it was Beowulf with Christopher Lambert, the king of B! Man this flick is hilarious. Some kind of pseudo Robin Hood Universe, that is beyond anachronisms with loudspeakers in the castle and females in Britney Spears costumes, and the worst thing about it, or the best, is that it doesn't explain this - make it clear why we have this combination of Robin and Britney...
And then there's the 'acting'

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 06:02
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I am really pleased that Dean mentioned Gilliam as he probably is tied with Kubrick as my absolute favourite movie directors.
The Doctor Parnassus flick from 09 seems to have been completely overlooked by audiences for reasons unknown, but personally I find it to be a genuine masterpiece of modern day cinema. Doctor Faustos meets Alice in Wonderland with a scoop of Tom Waits on the side. Yummy.
I love Gilliam because there is no restraint in his ambition - Munchausen, Grimm and Parnassus are epic in their ambition that didn't connect with the critics and general audience, but I love them all, and if he ever gets to finish The Man Who Killed Don Quixote I suspect it will be another to add to the list.
 
Second on my 'not from the list' would be Tim Burton, Big Fish is very Gilliamesque and an oft overlooked film.


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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 06:09
From the list I'd be steered to go with Kubrick, but Martin Scorcese would be my number one (and yes, he has done some s.h.i.t.e as well I admit)

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 14:47
There are several there I like equally well......but Hitchcock is perhaps my favorite at least from the old school and he wasn't on the list.

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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 17:07
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I like your style Kanguru!
One of the worst movies I've ever seen in my life, also seems to be the one that made me laugh the most. I believe it was Beowulf with Christopher Lambert, the king of B! Man this flick is hilarious. Some kind of pseudo Robin Hood Universe, that is beyond anachronisms with loudspeakers in the castle and females in Britney Spears costumes, and the worst thing about it, or the best, is that it doesn't explain this - make it clear why we have this combination of Robin and Britney...
And then there's the 'acting'


Oh yeah, Dave, saw that one years ago!

Wasn't it kind of like a medieval/sci-fi mix?! I remember the `Mortal Kombat' movie, which also starred Christopher Lambert, had been something of a hit, and it's clear they tried to model `Beowulf' on it. It even had Lambert in stacks of martial art scenes - although all I remember is him (ie his stuntman) doing endless cartwheels and flips rather than actual fighting lol! It also had that same pounding techno-music score like `Kombat' did!

Heh, terrible flick, although I think I'd find it even difficult to view as a `so bad it's good' kind of movie! I think `Batman and Robin', and Van Damme's `Streetfighter' and his super camp and colourful `Double Team' with Dennis Rodman are pretty much unbeatable garbage!


Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 17:18
This would probably be hard choice if wasn't for Kubrick.

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 18:00
Tommy Wiseau, because it's Saturday night.


Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: March 30 2013 at 21:19
Who's the jackass that voted for that joke tarantino?  He's just a chop shop artist that steals other peoples movies, strips out everything good about them (character development, story, etc.), and adds a bunch of over the top language and violence.  All style, absolutely zero substance.  He's never had an original idea in his damn life.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 01:17
David Lynch

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:33
Lynch for me as well. I love how that guy puts together a production. Everything is considered - atmosphere, tone, unqiue dialogue. Mullholland's probably my favourite.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:35
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Who's the jackass that voted for that joke tarantino?  He's just a chop shop artist that steals other peoples movies, strips out everything good about them (character development, story, etc.), and adds a bunch of over the top language and violence.  All style, absolutely zero substance.  He's never had an original idea in his damn life.

Wink Rez Dogs was great though.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 12:38
I think Tarantino's brilliant at what he does. If it's just style he endures, he's the classiest in my book. Smile 


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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 20:47
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

From the list Lynch. From not the list, Terry Gilliam...


I agree wholeheartedly.


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 02 2013 at 16:09
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Who's the jackass that voted for that joke tarantino?  He's just a chop shop artist that steals other peoples movies, strips out everything good about them (character development, story, etc.), and adds a bunch of over the top language and violence.  All style, absolutely zero substance.  He's never had an original idea in his damn life.

Wink Rez Dogs was great though.
 
That is the one movie of his that's alright BUT it's also a complete rip-off of Chung Yun-Fat's "City On Fire".


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 02 2013 at 19:52
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Who's the jackass that voted for that joke tarantino?  He's just a chop shop artist that steals other peoples movies, strips out everything good about them (character development, story, etc.), and adds a bunch of over the top language and violence.  All style, absolutely zero substance.  He's never had an original idea in his damn life.

Wink Rez Dogs was great though.
 
That is the one movie of his that's alright BUT it's also a complete rip-off of Chung Yun-Fat's "City On Fire".

Wow man, you know your movies. I'm going to have to check that one out. Smile


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 02 2013 at 19:53
What did you guys think of Django?

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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 02 2013 at 20:53
Didn't see it.  Refuse to see his garbage.  My guess would be that it was another idea he lifted from someone else, eliminated anything close to character development, added graphic violence and language for the sake of graphic violence and language, and just waited for hollywood lemmings and college dumbasses to come fellate him.  What a complete pile of sh*t, he is. 
I always refer back to this old article anytime this complete tool comes up:
http://coolsh*tinthecrosshairs.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-i-hate-quentin-tarantino.html" rel="nofollow - Why I Hate Quentin Tarantino


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 02 2013 at 20:55
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

What did you guys think of Django?
 
If you were referring to http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060315/" rel="nofollow - this , though, while I haven't seen it either I would consider it. Big smile


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 07:51
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Didn't see it.  Refuse to see his garbage.  My guess would be that it was another idea he lifted from someone else, eliminated anything close to character development, added graphic violence and language for the sake of graphic violence and language, and just waited for hollywood lemmings and college dumbasses to come fellate him.  What a complete pile of sh*t, he is. 
I always refer back to this old article anytime this complete tool comes up:
http://coolsh*tinthecrosshairs.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-i-hate-quentin-tarantino.html" rel="nofollow - Why I Hate Quentin Tarantino


He has a lot of valid points but I feel like saying "I've also left out ________________" when it clearly isn't left out of the argument is incredibly douchey.




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Posted By: fusionfreak
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 12:35
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

What did you guys think of Django?
To be frank I like Tarantino's movies(mostly Kill Bill,Pulp Fiction,Death Proof and Inglorious b*****ds).He's talented and knows how to steal from the films he love,he also knows how to quote great composers but I never felt the need to see his films again because for me he can't beat Leone,Peckinpah and Kubrick.On the contray I really dug Django:Foxx and Waltz are great,the soundtrack is awesome,it's a great homage to spaghetti western with hints of blaxploitation.This movie reminds me a lot of Day of anger(with Lee Van Cleef and Guiliano Gemma by Tonino Valerii) even if the end is slightly different.I found it so good I saw it two times in the theater.For me it's Quentin's best film.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 16:47
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Didn't see it.  Refuse to see his garbage.  My guess would be that it was another idea he lifted from someone else, eliminated anything close to character development, added graphic violence and language for the sake of graphic violence and language, and just waited for hollywood lemmings and college dumbasses to come fellate him.  What a complete pile of sh*t, he is. 
I always refer back to this old article anytime this complete tool comes up:
http://coolsh*tinthecrosshairs.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-i-hate-quentin-tarantino.html" rel="nofollow - Why I Hate Quentin Tarantino

LOL Could you maybe repost that? It doesn't seem to open for me.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 16:49
Originally posted by fusionfreak fusionfreak wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

What did you guys think of Django?
To be frank I like Tarantino's movies(mostly Kill Bill,Pulp Fiction,Death Proof and Inglorious b*****ds).He's talented and knows how to steal from the films he love,he also knows how to quote great composers but I never felt the need to see his films again because for me he can't beat Leone,Peckinpah and Kubrick.On the contray I really dug Django:Foxx and Waltz are great,the soundtrack is awesome,it's a great homage to spaghetti western with hints of blaxploitation.This movie reminds me a lot of Day of anger(with Lee Van Cleef and Guiliano Gemma by Tonino Valerii) even if the end is slightly different.I found it so good I saw it two times in the theater.For me it's Quentin's best film.

I thought it was over hyped to be quite honest. Great acting, but the story was a bore.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 17:10
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Didn't see it.  Refuse to see his garbage.  My guess would be that it was another idea he lifted from someone else, eliminated anything close to character development, added graphic violence and language for the sake of graphic violence and language, and just waited for hollywood lemmings and college dumbasses to come fellate him.  What a complete pile of sh*t, he is. 
I always refer back to this old article anytime this complete tool comes up:
http://coolsh*tinthecrosshairs.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-i-hate-quentin-tarantino.html" rel="nofollow - Why I Hate Quentin Tarantino

LOL Could you maybe repost that? It doesn't seem to open for me.
The link gets changed by PA's censorship, just change the * into an i in the URL

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 22:01
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Didn't see it.  Refuse to see his garbage.  My guess would be that it was another idea he lifted from someone else, eliminated anything close to character development, added graphic violence and language for the sake of graphic violence and language, and just waited for hollywood lemmings and college dumbasses to come fellate him.  What a complete pile of sh*t, he is. 
I always refer back to this old article anytime this complete tool comes up:
http://coolsh*tinthecrosshairs.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-i-hate-quentin-tarantino.html" rel="nofollow - Why I Hate Quentin Tarantino

LOL Could you maybe repost that? It doesn't seem to open for me.
The link gets changed by PA's censorship, just change the * into an i in the URL

Oh I didn't notice that man. Thanks.


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Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 12:14
This seems to show a problem with the site's censorship system as the word doesn't even appear within my post.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 13:23
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

This seems to show a problem with the site's censorship system as the word doesn't even appear within my post.
Who gives a f**k

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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: April 17 2013 at 16:28
This list needs more Aronofsky.  I don't know if he's my absolute favorite or not, but he's on my shortlist.


From this list I my top 2 are Kubrick and Lynch.
   


Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: April 17 2013 at 16:30
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

What did you guys think of Django?

I liked Django a lot.  I think it's one of his best.  He has his flaws as a director, but most of what he does is pretty damn good.  I think Kill Bill is his masterpiece.


Posted By: manofmystery
Date Posted: April 17 2013 at 21:52
^ Ugh

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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: April 17 2013 at 22:14
Care to elaborate?


Posted By: TGM: Orb
Date Posted: April 18 2013 at 08:20
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Didn't see it.  Refuse to see his garbage.  My guess would be that it was another idea he lifted from someone else, eliminated anything close to character development, added graphic violence and language for the sake of graphic violence and language, and just waited for hollywood lemmings and college dumbasses to come fellate him.  What a complete pile of sh*t, he is. 
I always refer back to this old article anytime this complete tool comes up:
http://coolsh*tinthecrosshairs.blogspot.com/2009/05/why-i-hate-quentin-tarantino.html" rel="nofollow - Why I Hate Quentin Tarantino

LOL Could you maybe repost that? It doesn't seem to open for me.


You'll have to reswearify the link.

(and basically... reworking ideas from other things, modelling things self-consciously on previous works and styles of, in this case, film  is and has always been a legitimate and important part of producing art [cf. Vergil modelling stuff on Theocritus, Homer, Greek Tragedy, the epic cycle, Apollonius Rhodius and Callimachus... there's some really interesting odd stuff in late antiquity where people create new narratives wholly composed of slightly modified half-lines from previous works]... Tarantino obviously flags up his influences and doesn't make a big deal of pretending the core ideas are all his own)

Having seen both the Djangos (the spaghetti western long before Tarantino's film, which incidentally includes a cameo by Franco Nero and a really neat re-use of the style of the opening shots) - I've not seen the Corbucci sequel, though... the original is a great film (especially Carlo Simi's set design) with an appalling script and pretty terrible English voiceovers. The Tarantino film is the only standout western that's been made since, at least, Unforgiven (and it probably shows more ) and is, imho, both a film where Tarantino's sense of style, production values and ability to wrench great performances out of actors I have otherwise never been impressed by is combined with the film having a real heart. He really should've made his own cameo in it something that he, y'know, can do (and it should really have kept in a bit more dialogue to actually establish the point of that bit of the film) but other than that I think the film's incredible.

But yeah, of the ones I know here (most of), I'm only a big fan of Kubrick and Tarantino. Coen brothers have done some very good and watchable stuff but don't really engage me on a personal level.

The beautiful thing about The Room is that you can always see how hard Wiseau was trying.

As a matter of taste, my own list would be very different.


Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: June 06 2013 at 21:44

On the list, the Coen brothers.

My all-time favorite is Luis Bunuel. Jacques Tati would be 2nd... Claude Chabrol 3rd. I have a soft spot for Eric Rohmer, 4th. Jacques Rivette. Godard's 60s films.

Favorite films... The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie and Phantom of Liberty (Bunuel), Celine and Julie Go Boating (Rivette), Red (Kieslowski), Diva (Beineix), Le boucher, La rupture and La ceremonie (all by Chabrol), Claire's Knee (Rohmer), Tati's Jour de fete and Mon oncle...

There are very few American directors working today whose films I would just *have* to see. The Coen bros. are one, Lynch is another. Having said that, I've lost interest in a great many international 'art films'. For example, French cinema really went downhill in the 80s and has stayed that way (although the great directors continued to make great films - Rohmer, Chabrol, Rivette, Pialat, et al). A good art film comes out now and again... These days I'd rather watch a zombie flick or a Korean horror film... LOL (Asian horror films, oh yeah! Kairo, Thirst, A Tale of Two Sisters, Dumplings...).



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