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Topic: The new occured problems with having opinions
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: The new occured problems with having opinions
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 11:23
I have noticed that the use of the acronym IMIO is spreading, I am even saying it out loud when i state opinions of my own, for so to say that it is basically my sole opinion , not CNNs, or the Lexicon, or wikipedia, or a guy on facebook or the pope or Jesus, or Santa Clause

I just found out that i realize people are more about implying hat it is actually your opinion that you own the opinion by phrasing IMO after a stated opinion. is it so important to state that it is actually your opinion to every opinion  you make about everything, like you are the stakeholder of the opinions you utter and the fear of other implying you have a wrong opinion  it is very handy to smash an IMO after a statement.

Like IMo cant say i have IMO anything of value IMO for this company IMO to say you are IMO a jerk. IMO.

what is your general opinion of the use of IMO?

what do you think of the usage of IMO?

where does it stem from ?

are you annoyed by/are you unaffected by it?

Have you ever thought about it?


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 12:02
IMO the thread title is a mess. But funny

I use IMo from time to time. Not  absolutely  needed but it can help.


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 12:18
Lazyness. Say "in my opinion" and I'll probably value it more.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 12:44
^

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Posted By: Ambient Hurricanes
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 12:55
I only use it when I want to distinguish an opinion I am positing from a fact.  Otherwise, I see no reason to use the phrase or acronym.  If you really believe something, you should come out and say it and not try to dilute it to make it seem less assertive.  If you want a tactful angle...well, there are a lot of better ways to be tactful than tacking on "imo" to a comment.  The socratic method might work, methinks.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 13:05
I see it as kind of a "post softener".  Usually it's clear that what you're saying is your own opinion, but if you're saying something particularly strong, it's sometimes tactful to throw in "IMO" to make it clear you're not trying to project your beliefs on everyone else.  It's kind of a token modesty that's generally okay to use, but it can have a false veneer to it if it's overused -- say, if it's used as a license to be as annoying as you want to be, and you can always fall back on "well, I did say it was ONLY MY OPINION, if you don't like it that's fine".  

As an acronym, "IMO" is so freaking wonderful I want to adopt it as my child and give it love and spiral notebooks.

In my opinion, of course.


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 13:06
^ Beat me to it in the first paragraph.
Originally posted by aginor

I have noticed that the use of the acronym IMIO is spreading, I am even saying it out loud when i state opinions of my own, for so to say that it is basically my sole opinion , not CNNs, or the Lexicon, or wikipedia, or a guy on facebook or the pope or Jesus, or Santa Clause.*

what do you think of the usage of IMO?**

are you annoyed by/are you unaffected by it?***
* Since you spelt "Santa Claus" with an "e" at the end, I presume you are talking about Tim Allen ... IMO.

** It's fair.

*** I used to be annoyed by it, but lately was appreciating its importance.

I use it whenever I feel the need for using it, that is before I get a bad vibe and someone attacks me with a "you dumb son of a b%^ch, you blyah-blyah-blyah-blyah-blyah-br-r-r-r-r-r-r-... [fart noises] ... ." I always presume that there are some people who tend to forget that the person they are conversing with doesn't always state things objectively. I saw this here a few times a long while ago.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 14:19
My posts are a mixture of opinion and fact, most of the time it is obvious which is which but here are times when it is possible to misinterpret an opinion as a stated fact, in those rare instances I will tag an IMO or IMHO on the end just to insure that people don't assume that I am stating opinion as fact... ATAF¹
 
 
 
 
 
¹And That's A Fact


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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 14:25
If people can't sort out the difference between statements of fact and statements of opinion, then I don't have the time to hold their hand through it by constantly saying IMO.  IMO of course.  Wink

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:13
So what's the exact difference between IMO and IMHO? One's being more humble with the "H"? If you can't spell it completely, I'm not thinking of anybody as much more of a gentleman just because he allows meto deduct that his opinion is humble with an H.

Oh damn I just hate acronyms and txt speech in general.

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:15
IWAWYTETMHEIAMDP.  Wink

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:40
IYO im a prog geek

but IMO i just enjoy some prog from time to time 

(IYO is one ive made up for In Your Opinion )


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:42
Originally posted by The T

So what's the exact difference between IMO and IMHO? One's being more humble with the "H"? If you can't spell it completely, I'm not thinking of anybody as much more of a gentleman just because he allows meto deduct that his opinion is humble with an H.

Oh damn I just hate acronyms and txt speech in general.
Why do I say "please" and "thank you" when buying goods from a retail store? I am neither pleased nor have the expectation of receiving pleasure, nor do I honestly feel the desire to offer praise or verbal reward to someone doing the job that they are paid to do in an adequate fashion.
 
 
Have an average day.


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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:46
I'm quite happy about good manners. Rudeness it's probably my biggest pet peeve in the world. But an H in an IMO it's just an extra letter, IMO.

Have an awesome, best-of-your-life, unforgettable day.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:47
False modesty is an English thing. False manners are endemic everywhere.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:54
I have no opinions on this subject.

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 15:55
Originally posted by The T

I'm quite happy about good manners. Rudeness it's probably my biggest pet peeve in the world. But an H in an IMO it's just an extra letter, IMO.

Have an awesome, best-of-your-life, unforgettable day.


Those Brits like to throw extra "u"s in lots of words too.  Tongue

Well said Phil, but that should be "IHNOOTS"


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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 16:04
A!IDLTWOWS




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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 16:05
ftw that is IMO very funny

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: March 31 2013 at 16:13
Originally posted by The Doctor

Originally posted by The T

I'm quite happy about good manners. Rudeness it's probably my biggest pet peeve in the world. But an H in an IMO it's just an extra letter, IMO.

Have an awesome, best-of-your-life, unforgettable day.


Those Brits like to throw extra "u"s in lots of words too.  Tongue

Well said Phil, but that should be "IHNOOTS"

No, Webster took them out.


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:51
Originally posted by Dean

False modesty is an English thing.

I thought it was quiet desperation


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 01 2013 at 08:55
Originally posted by Padraic

Originally posted by Dean

False modesty is an English thing.

I thought it was quiet desperation
*rim shot*


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 02 2013 at 02:29
Originally posted by Padraic


Originally posted by Dean

False modesty is an English thing.

I thought it was quiet desperation


No - quiet desperation is the manner in which us English read the grammar of others

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 02 2013 at 08:31
Originally posted by Jim Garten

Originally posted by Padraic


Originally posted by Dean

False modesty is an English thing.

I thought it was quiet desperation


No - quiet desperation is the manner in which us we English read the grammar of others

Smile


Posted By: wilmon91
Date Posted: April 02 2013 at 15:50
You can add IMO just to let everyone know that it's a matter of opinion, and even if you are very assured to the degree that you feel convinced, adding IMO is a way to acknowledge that it is an opinion and it will welcome others to present their alternate views.


Posted By: Gamemako
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 17:15
IMO, it's not like it matters. In fact, colloquial language is brimming with meaningless, non-statement filler-phrases.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 17:21
That's strange.

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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: April 03 2013 at 20:57
Originally posted by The T

I'm quite happy about good manners. Rudeness it's probably my biggest pet peeve in the world. But an H in an IMO it's just an extra letter, IMO.

Have an awesome, best-of-your-life, unforgettable day.


I've occasionally seen IMAO - In My Arrogant Opinion.

There's a famous saying, but no one remembers the second half of it:
"Opinions are like a**holes - everybody's got one, but nobody wants to look at the other guy's."



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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 02:20
Originally posted by Padraic


Originally posted by Jim Garten

Originally posted by Padraic


Originally posted by Dean

False modesty is an English thing.

I thought it was quiet desperation


No - quiet desperation is the manner in which us we English read the grammar of others

Smile


Took yer time...

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 05:54
Excuse me but which new problems have occurred by people using IMO?

People use IMO / IMHO because the net is full of oversensitive people which will react like mentally retarded when confronted with someone not sharing their opinion. In the vast majority of cases using IMO / IMHO should be completely unnecessary but it's a way of telling the other net users that you are not one of those retarded and that you can deal with people having a different opinion.

Unnecessary yes, but causing new problems???


Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 06:56
^ there is much merit in what the cranky Belgium dweller states. All these qualifiers at the end of written messages like IMO, IMHO etc seem to mirror the modern paranoia manifest in everyone and their dog prefacing any written statement with 'without prejudice' i.e. you cannot use what I have written against me in any subsequent court case.
This is usually spurious bollocks as the words will not act to automatically confer immunity to the communication



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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 07:16
I use IMHO quite often, but not out of paranoia.
Why should it be, since it means, as we all know: In My Hyperintelligent Opinion WinkCool


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 09:05
Originally posted by Jim Garten

Originally posted by Padraic


Originally posted by Jim Garten

Originally posted by Padraic


Originally posted by Dean

False modesty is an English thing.

I thought it was quiet desperation


No - quiet desperation is the manner in which us we English read the grammar of others

Smile


Took yer time...

Forgive me - I was sleeping when you wrote it.  Wink


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 10:14
Originally posted by Gerinski

Excuse me but which new problems have occurred by people using IMO?

People use IMO / IMHO because the net is full of oversensitive people which will react like mentally retarded when confronted with someone not sharing their opinion. In the vast majority of cases using IMO / IMHO should be completely unnecessary but it's a way of telling the other net users that you are not one of those retarded and that you can deal with people having a different opinion.

Unnecessary yes, but causing new problems???
 
Well said ......and that is  the reason I often use it on various forum discussions.


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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 11:15
It's just fluffy convention, a rhetorical device that some people find useful.  Just because it doesn't add any meat to the sentence doesn't mean it shouldn't be there.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 15:28
Originally posted by Gerinski

People use IMO / IMHO because the net is full of oversensitive people which will react like mentally retarded when confronted with someone not sharing their opinion. In the vast majority of cases using IMO / IMHO should be completely unnecessary but it's a way of telling the other net users that you are not one of those retarded and that you can deal with people having a different opinion.

Unnecessary yes, but causing new problems???
Eh, ... that makes it necessary.

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 16:43
IMO having a strong opinion on IMO is just being overly opinionated. IMO those people need to get a life

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 21:08
Originally posted by JJLehto

IMO having a strong opinion on IMO is just being overly opinionated. IMO those people need to get a life


That's just, like, your opinion, man.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 04 2013 at 21:22
What I hate is when I see it in a review;  for chrissake, we know it's your opinion, that'swhat a review is.   It's even worse coming from a collaborator, it's like saying  " I'm not really sure if I'm right or if you'll agree or if my thoughts are valid or how this comes off or anything, but here's what I think.  Heh. "





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