Tori Amos vs. Bjork
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Topic: Tori Amos vs. Bjork
Posted By: jude111
Subject: Tori Amos vs. Bjork
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 22:28
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Both are in PA under Crossover Prog. Bjork's Debut album (which wasn't actually her debut, but never mind) came out in '93,while Tori Amos's Little Earthquakes came out in '92 (it also wasn't her debut...). Their ages are separated by only 3 years. It seems to me that Bjork and her music is very much Western European, while only the USA could have produced Tori Amos and her music. For me, it's not even close: Bjork. (My wife would definitely go with Tori though. In fact, I'm not allowed to play Bjork if she's within earshot
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 22:32
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Tori Amos by a mile for me. I just find her a lot more listenable. She's an incredible piano player. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 22:34
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Tori Amos has been based in the UK for most of her career, and I've always found her music to be very British sounding, not American. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 22:35
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Bjork
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 22:36
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Love em both, but if I could only have the albums of one, I'd take Tori.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 07 2013 at 23:03
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lol ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Terra Australis
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 00:02
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Tori Amos thanks! ------------- Allomerus. Music with progressive intent. http://allomerus.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - http://allomerus.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 01:48
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I'm pretty sure this has been done before but I voted anyway.
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 01:52
| Bjork, of course. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 03:16
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I don't like much both, but if I have to choose I go for Bjork ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 03:29
I agree with this. No vote from me (yet). ------------- 
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Wanorak wrote:Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 05:03
| Bjork. Tori's got a couple of seriously good albums, but Bjork at her best is just far more interesting. |
Posted By: Neu!mann
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 07:02
Bjork is just too eccentric for my better half: vocally, musically, and sartorially (remember her swan outfit out the Oscars?). All of which make her more attractive to this Proghead, but I too have to listen on headphones at home... ------------- "we can change the world without anyone noticing the difference" - Franco Falsini |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 07:53
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Tori Amos. Bjork hurts my ears. ------------- Welcome to the middle of the film. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 08:45
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Tori ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 08:56
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Love 'em both but went for the more innovative, B. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 09:59
| Wow this is a really hard choice. I love them both. I think I'll go with Tori. From the Choirgirl Hotel is just an amazing album. |
Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 11:19
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Bjork sounds tone deaf to me. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 14:02
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Tori Amos. -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 15:53
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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 16:21
Bjork's great. Love a lot of her albums, especially Post. Got to love her fashion sense too. 
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 16:45
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Bjork fans should be sure to catch the live DVD for the Vespertine tour....with Zeena Parkins....it is her finest moment I would say.
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 16:47
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^along with Medulla..... ------------- |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 17:02
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Not too familiar with Bjork. The first time I heard her was on an SNL performance as part of the Sugar Cubes. That's kind of cool that she's worked with Zeena Parkins. I know Parkins from her work with Frith. This got me thinking how you can connect the two, degrees of separation. Let's see. Tori Amos-Adrian Belew-Robert Fripp-Brian Eno-Fred Frith-Zeena Parkins-Bjork. I got it in six. Strange Little Girls provides the key linkage. Can anyone shorten it up? ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 17:25
They can be connected in a few other ways too. Tori Amos has covered Bjork's "Hyperballad" in concerts. Apparently, Q Magazine got Tori Amos, Bjork and PJ Harvey together in the same room for an interview in 1994. And they have spoken about each other in various interviews: QUOTES >> "Recently I met Bjork, and she's exactly how I picture my best friend of the future. She's so free and full of wild ideas and without pose or false pretenses. Also, she doesn't have this cramped rock and roll habit to wake all sorts of demons in herself. She sees creativity wider than that. A wonderful person. I don't see her as a musician, rather like the phenomenon Bjork. I had the same feeling with Evan Dando of the Lemonheads. In my songs I am open, but I am still fighting with all sorts of problems. Bjork and Evan seem to have passed that stage. Their work is pure life's joy and childish openness. I have thought a lot about that lately: why am I still in the cellar groveling between the rats, whereas Bjork and Evan are upstairs cooking? And it smells so darn good there... I still need my songs to cope with my double cursing of feelings of religious and sexual guilt. And I would like by now to peek in the kitchen upstairs." -- Tori; Nieuwe Revu, Feb, 1994 "I'll tell you now that there has not been one woman from a band that's turned up at my gigs. Polly Harvey and Bjork are the only women I know in the music business. I know hundreds of men in bands. And not just because they wanna get with me. There just ain't that kind of supportiveness among women in rock." -- Tori; New Musical Express, Dec 17, 1994 I: That was big news in Australia, because Bjork just arrived in Bangkok and obviously lost her cool with a young Thai reporter who greeted her with a welcome to Thailand, and actually got hit by Bjork as she arrived. T: Well, I don't know about that. I mean, from what I understand...and Bjork is a good acquaintance, and a lovely, lovely, lovely lady. And I've known her for a while, and never seen her lose her patience. And her son was with her, and I think that you saw the mother lion come out protecting her cub. That's what I truly think happened from what I gather. I think people saw the mother come out as Bjork, and nobody's really seen that. You see the playful, young, quote-unquote "woman", but the mother is quite, ah, powerful, wonderful and protective. And I think any mother would protect her child the same way if she felt it was being harassed. -- Tori; JJJ FM Radio (Australia), Feb 1996 "You get to know people through other musicians. I don't meet anyone. I only run into Bjork when we're in the airport for ten minutes. We have a giggle, a scream and a laugh and go our separate ways." -- Tori; Deluxe Magazine, May 1998 "I talk to Polly more, probably because she lives in England. We don't see each other regularly, I wouldn't say we're friends exactly. But we all definitely give each other mutual support. We have similar jobs. Tori is mag-ical, euphoric and it's enjoyable to be around her. Polly has more of an earthy quality. She's so truthful and has so much integrity." -- Bjork; Q Magazine, Oct 2000 "The trio thing [Q Magazine interview] was 1994. It was just a magical day. I really like those two. I had met Bjork before, 10 years ago. I have huge respect for her and for Polly. I haven't seen them in while, but messages get passed back and forth. We're always in a different part of the world. Once the camera was gone, we began to see what each other was about, and in a very brief amount of time we built up a huge amount of trust." -- Tori; Q Magazine, Nov 2001 http://www.hereinmyhead.com/musicians/bjork.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.hereinmyhead.com/musicians/bjork.html
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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 17:38
Well you could connect them in the sense they're two great female artists whose inclusion on this site are often complained about. 
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 18:31
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I've never been very touched by the music of Tori Amos, probably because of the shadow of Kate bush, which I love. I prefer someone like Veda Hille, a canadian artist who's not on P.A. but that would deserve to be.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BghzgEcHcF8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BghzgEcHcF8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuTA2GzYVug" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuTA2GzYVug
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 18:45
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Dean once wrote a very good post about how the whole Tori/Kate comparison is really quite wrong....very little in common musically....I sure wish I could find that. ------------- |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 18:46
Well he'd be right. I don't find them that alike at all. It seems most of the more creative female artists are compared to Kate Bush though. 
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 18:53
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Heard pretty much everything from Bjork - Brilliant. Heard only one Tori so far (1st album) - Excellent. No vote. ------------- |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 18:58
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Of course, it's me. But even whithout it, Tori is far from my musical taste. |
Posted By: bonestorm
Date Posted: April 08 2013 at 23:13
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Tori for sure, haven't listened to much of the later stuff, but Little Earthquakes and Scarlett's Walk are great.
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 09 2013 at 09:13
Yes and no. Her vocal style is completely different, pretty 'normal' kind of delivery. But there are some chords of Tori's that sound like Kate Bush. The song Moving sounds to me like something Tori would go on to do, only Moving is much more interesting. Voted for Bjork. |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: April 09 2013 at 12:43
I just read your review of the DVD - excellent! I have the concert on CD, but now I want to get the DVD! :-) http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=31926" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=31926
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 09 2013 at 12:44
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: April 11 2014 at 22:38
| Bjork for me. So much more musically interesting than Amos IMHO. I will say that I haven't been too impressed with Bjork's last couple of albums, but Volta does have some interesting moments. I found Biophilia a bore. |
Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 01:37
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I thought Bjork was Asian before I knew anything about her. I go with her. Tori is a bit much for me. It's the musical equivalent of really overpowering perfume. |
Posted By: UMUR
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 01:41
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I´ve never been able to appreciate Bjørk´s hysteric out of tune singing. I much prefer the girly and often rather vulgar delivery of Tori Amos. At times she sounds a bit too much like Kate Bush (how could this ever be a problem :-)), but she writes some pretty intriguing music, so she´s forgiven. ------------- http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/" rel="nofollow - Metal Music Archives https://rateyourmusic.com/~UMUR" rel="nofollow - UMUR on RYM |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 11:03
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T O R I By faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Never got to understand what is there to like about Bjork) ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 11:15
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Both have made a few good songs IMO but I suppose Tori Amos just about gets it for me
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 11:59
If you can't hear the magic in these, then Bjork's not for you  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKufCp8NnMk" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKufCp8NnMk , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgBbJKiRxmc" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgBbJKiRxmc , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxBO28j3vug" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxBO28j3vug , http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CSiU0j_lFA" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CSiU0j_lFA It also didn't hurt that she worked with some of the best electronic/dance producers in London (Nellee Hooper, Marius de Vries, Howie B, Matmos, Tricky, Goldie, Plaid, 808 State, LFO, Talvin Singh), or that her music videos were often directed by the greatest video directors of their generation, people like Michel Gondry, Chris Cunningham, Spike Jonze, Stéphane Sednaoui. All these people did among their best work with Bjork. [See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rk_discography#Music_videos" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B6rk_discography#Music_videos ]
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 13:01
Nice to read those quotes, thanks for sharing! My vote goes to Björk BTW.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 13:53
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Although there are some Bjorktacular moments, I'd prefer Toricide. More consistent, less esoteric. Sometimes Bjork seems to prefer to be weird for weirdness' sake, and it sounds forced. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: April 12 2014 at 19:56
Tori Amos------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: May 18 2014 at 04:03
no magic for me! ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 26 2014 at 07:00
THIS! ------------- 
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