Print Page | Close Window

Genesis vs. Peter Gabriel (The 80's and 90's)

Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Polls
Forum Discription: Create polls on topics related to progressive music
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93092
Printed Date: August 22 2014 at 11:12
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 9.69 - http://www.webwizforums.com


Topic: Genesis vs. Peter Gabriel (The 80's and 90's)
Posted By: Tubes
Subject: Genesis vs. Peter Gabriel (The 80's and 90's)
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 05:49
There was some quite vociferous outcry at the time of Peter Gabriel's departure from Genesis in 1975. Some critics and fans were predicting a  http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93091&PID=4762598#" rel="nofollow - complete  fade-out of the remaining Genesis members from the public eye. This we can now plainly see was terribly mistaken - BUT did Gabriel's pursuit of artistic independence and musical integrity most benefit himself, OR the new incarnation(s) of Genesis, who were driven to progress and further develop in compensation for his loss? Progressive (Instrumentation, Playing Technique, Technology), Compositional (Uniqueness of Structure, Melodic/Harmonic Development, Musicality, etc.), and Lyrical (Vocal Delivery, Emotional Appeal, Subject Matter, etc.) considerations are all on the table.  



Replies:
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 05:51
Invisible Touch. But many albums by both are great.

-------------
Coldness doth get away with the badness. http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: Tubes
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 06:05
Myself, I will try to restrain from voting in this poll. But should my self-discipline fail, I would probably vote for a Genesis album, hands down. You still have Mike Rutherford on guitar and bass, Tony Banks (a master of symphonic keyboard work in the 70's) tackling 80's synths and analogs, and, of course, Phil Collins drumming it up like nobody's business. And my vote wouldn't just go to Genesis for the musicianship alone. Listen to Mama: depending on your interpretation, a solemn and unnerving ballad (?) sung from the perspective of an unborn child who's best friend or worst enemy is his own mother; or the thoughts of a schizophrenic teenager with 'mother issues' who oedipally depends on soliciting an older prostitute. In any case, that's some heavy stuff, right there. I don't think Peter Gabriel ever beat that - not even on The Lamb. 


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 06:27
I can't say that I like any of the albums listed but in general I prefer Gabriel's solo worsk to anything Genesis have done in the 80s

-------------
Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.


Posted By: progresssaurus
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 06:43
neglect genres for purposse of this poll and vote Peter Gabriel's Passion, Music For The Last Temptation Of Christ

edit:
"1980" battle  Duke vs Melt is interesting :)


Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 06:54
In the 80's and 90's def Gabriel (voted for PG3 but PG4 and Us are really good too) 

I still prefer him WITH Genesis though!


Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 07:04


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 07:23
I'm possibly wrongly assuming that by Three Sides Live you mean the whole album and not only the studio 4th side.
From this point of view I voted for Three Sides Live which is still a very solid album.
If by TSL you meant the studio side only, I guess I would have voted for Duke, closely followed by PG's Melt.



Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 08:42
Duke--it gave me hope for the 80's that didn't pan out.LOL


Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 09:03
Of course the TSL I have doesn't have a studio side. 
 
Anyway, Melt PGIII brilliant brilliant brilliant


-------------
Help me I'm falling!


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 09:31
"So"




-------------





Posted By: pfloyd
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 10:28
melt. although i'm not a huge fan of any of these albums.  

-------------
check out my art: http://alex-bennett.cghub.com/images/


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 10:50
PG 3, Brilliant!!

-------------
A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 11:06
I don't really like Genesis without Gabriel or Gabriel without Genesis.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 11:19
'Duke' out of this lot.


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 12:18
Originally posted by akamaisondufromage

Of course the TSL I have doesn't have a studio side. 
 
Anyway, Melt PGIII brilliant brilliant brilliant
That made me think of creating another poll (don't know whether it has been done before, I'l search before posting) regarding your Three Sides Live albums: edition with studio side, 4 sides live or both? Tongue


Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 13:15
Overall, PG's work is the better, and Passion is still the best thing he has ever done.

-------------
The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 13:29
Us

-------------
Excuse-moi d'casser ton fun mais j'me cherche une rime pour automne


Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 13:31
Mama

-------------
http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">
The greatest record label of all time!


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 13:42
For me any of the pg's beat any of the genesis, gave vote to passion



-------------
My Music: www.jokeinc.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - www.jokeinc.bandcamp.com
My blog: www.tamijo2013.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - www.tamijo2013.wordpress.com


Posted By: resurrection
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 13:42
Duke


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 14:33
Both are pretty meh to worse than meh.

I suppose PG on the strength of Melt and Passion, whereas only Duke is notable from Genesis' discog after that.

-------------
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 17:34
So for me.
 
I vastly prefer Gabriel's work to that of Genesis in the 80s.


-------------
I have many faults. Being wrong is not one of them.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 19:15
Originally posted by Man With Hat

Both are pretty meh to worse than meh.

I suppose PG on the strength of Melt and Passion, whereas only Duke is notable from Genesis' discog after that.
This word 'meh' is not in the dictionary.............


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 19:32
Duke and Genesis S/T are by far my two favs of the bunch. Never could get into gabriel's solo stuff for some reason. I picked Duke.

-------------
"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 19:50
Peter Gabriel produced better albums in the 80s and 90s than Genesis. They certainly had greater depth and were more meaningful. The three in a row in the 80s Melt, Security and So are incredible. I've always considered Melt and So as two of the best albums of the 80s.  

-------------
Please pay a visit to my blog... http://darkelffile.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - The Dark Elf File ...a slighty skewed journal of music reviews, literary comment, fan-fiction and interminable essays.


Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 19:51
Melt.

-------------
Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle


Posted By: Tubes
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 21:38
Genesis needs to make a come-back here. If they could also do that literally with some new music and a tour, with Steve Hackett and Peter Gabriel, that would be cool too. 


Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 21:40
I'm surprised at how little recognition the Mama album gets on here. I think it's a really great pop album.

-------------
http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">
The greatest record label of all time!


Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 22:38
Genesis-Duke 

-------------
“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four

"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart



Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: April 20 2013 at 23:19
Originally posted by smartpatrol

I'm surprised at how little recognition the Mama album gets on here. I think it's a really great pop album.

Love Mama, but what do I know-- I also like lot's of Abacab which got zero votesLOL more importantly I love the gilf you are using---gotta learn that step very cool---he's gotta be the only Puerto Rican with weird rhythm. LOL


Posted By: Tubes
Date Posted: April 21 2013 at 01:55
Ah, f**k it. I'm voting for Invisible Touch. 


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 21 2013 at 13:26
Genesis - Three Sides Live


Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: April 21 2013 at 23:49
Originally posted by smartpatrol

I'm surprised at how little recognition the Mama album gets on here. I think it's a really great pop album.

Agreed, it's damn near perfect if you can get past Illegal Alien. LOL It gets my vote


-------------


Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: April 22 2013 at 06:39
Voted for PG 3....it's my favorite PG album. 

-------------
--
Robert Pearson
Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net
Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com
ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net




Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: April 22 2013 at 06:42
Originally posted by Tubes

Ah, f**k it. I'm voting for Invisible Touch. 

yes. It's a near perfect album.


-------------
Coldness doth get away with the badness. http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 22 2013 at 06:56
So followed by PG3.

-------------


Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: April 22 2013 at 07:56
I've always been a fan of Security (my first Gabriel or Genesis album actually), so I'll go with that. The first tune still gives me goosebumps.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 22 2013 at 08:13
Gabriel's material was better than Genesis' throughout this period, PG4 is my favourite of his.

-------------
http://www.last.fm/user/chopper777/?chartstyle=basicrt10" rel="nofollow">



Print Page | Close Window

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.69 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz - http://www.webwiz.co.uk