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Topic: Best track 1996 - 1/2
Posted By: tamijo
Subject: Best track 1996 - 1/2
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 12:20
The poll was split into 2 parts, please vote in both.

Previous years :

Classic Era

1967 - Moody Blues - Days Of Future Passed - Nights In White Satin

1968 - Pink Floyd - A Saucerful Of Secrets - Set the controls for the heart of the sun

1969 - King Crimson- In the Court - In the Court

1970 - Genesis - Trespass - Stagnation

1971 - Pink Floyd - Meddle - Echoes

1972 - Jethro Tull - Thick As A Brick - Thick As A Brick Part 1

1973 - Genesis - Selling England by the Pound - Firth of Fifth

1974 - King Crimson - Starless (best track 1967-76)

1975 - Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here - Shine on you crazy diamond Part one

1976 - Genesis - A Trick Of The Tail - Dance On A Volcano

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Late Classic – Dark Age

1977 - Pink Floyd - Animals – Dogs (best track 1977-86)

1978 - Rush - Hemispheres - La Villa Strangiato

1979 - Pink Floyd - the Wall - Comfortably Numb

1980 - Rush - Permanent Waves - Natural Science

1981 - Rush - Moving Pictures – YYZ

1982 - King Crimson – Beat - Satori in Tangier

1983 - Marillion -Script For A Jester's Tear - The Web

1984 - Univers Zero - Uzed – Présage

1985 - Supertramp - Brother Where You Bound - Brother Where You Bound

1986 - Peter Gabriel – So – Red Rain

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Restoration (Metal Age) 1987-1996

1987 - Pink Floyd -  A Momentary Lapse Of Reason - Learning To Fly

1988 - Queensryche - Operation: Mindcrime - Suite Sister Mary

1989 - IQ - Are You Sitting Comfortably?"  - Falling Apart At The Seams

1990 - Mike Oldfield -  Amarok - Amarok

1991 - Porcupine Tree - On The Sunday Of Life... - Radioactive Toy
1992 - Anglagard - Hybris - Jordrök
1993 - IQ - Ever - The Darkest Hour
1994 - Pink Floyd-The Division Bell - High Hopes
1995 - Spock's Beard - The Light - The Light
 
Upcomming:

Modern (Post Metal Age) 1997-2006

Contemporary  Prog. 2007-"2012"




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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 12:21
Crimson

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 12:31
Neurosis - Purify

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 13:36
Fiery Gun Hand for sure

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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 14:24
Voting for the brilliant Coda
Cliffhanger is close behind in my appreciation


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 14:32
Not a great list here.

Terminal Man for me.

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 14:37
Crimson

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 15:17
Don't you mean 1996? I see Spock's Beard's The Light is 1995s best track.

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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 15:18
Camel for me.

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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!


Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 15:41
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Crimson


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 17:02
Camel but De Profundis is a great track of a great album

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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 17:09
Cardiacs!!!!!


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 28 2013 at 18:11
LOL, this is the 96 list!

Opeth- The Night and the Silent Water for me.


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: April 29 2013 at 02:32
Typo fixed Embarrassed

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 30 2013 at 21:26
And again, we have a classic band taking the lead. Doesn't anybody listen to anything new here, post-1986? Anyways, Locust Star, Neurosis.

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 30 2013 at 22:25
I think that's because Camel is prog in the true sense of the word and a lot of newer bands sound more like alternative rock. Just saying.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: April 30 2013 at 22:38
Camel's prog in a 70's classic prog sense, which was like 40 years ago. They've been rehashing the same old sound for years, which is great, that's what makes them distinctive and unique. But progressive music has to progress, it can't just be Hammond Organ solos and Space themes 20 years later.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 02:56
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Camel's prog in a 70's classic prog sense, which was like 40 years ago. They've been rehashing the same old sound for years, which is great, that's what makes them distinctive and unique. But progressive music has to progress, it can't just be Hammond Organ solos and Space themes 20 years later.
Wait for '99 with Rajaz Wink


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 06:07
Neurosis - Locust StarHeart

Remember buying the live cd from Ozzfest 96, where Coal Chamber, Biohazard, Slayer, Fear Factory, Sepultura, Powerman 5000, Cellophane and Neurosis all featured on. I immediately became a Neurosis fan.
 
I just love the cracking windows effect of Locust Star.
Oh my here it is on YouTube:



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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 07:39
Cardiacs Fiery Gun Hand is hard to beat

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 15:00
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Camel's prog in a 70's classic prog sense, which was like 40 years ago. They've been rehashing the same old sound for years, which is great, that's what makes them distinctive and unique. But progressive music has to progress, it can't just be Hammond Organ solos and Space themes 20 years later.
Wait for '99 with Rajaz Wink

What, are they 70's oriented?


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 15:03
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Neurosis - Locust StarHeart

Remember buying the live cd from Ozzfest 96, where Coal Chamber, Biohazard, Slayer, Fear Factory, Sepultura, Powerman 5000, Cellophane and Neurosis all featured on. I immediately became a Neurosis fan.
 
I just love the cracking windows effect of Locust Star.
Oh my here it is on YouTube:


The song is sooo heeaavvvyyy. It's almost frightening listening to it. That whole entire album is just blistering.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 01 2013 at 23:28
Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Camel's prog in a 70's classic prog sense, which was like 40 years ago. They've been rehashing the same old sound for years, which is great, that's what makes them distinctive and unique. But progressive music has to progress, it can't just be Hammond Organ solos and Space themes 20 years later.
Wait for '99 with Rajaz Wink

What, are they 70's oriented?
I see Rajaz as a darker follow-up to Mirage. I don't think we can call 70s oriented somebody who was there. They are have probably "oriented the 70s"


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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 04:05
lol... Neurosis.

After Crying, I guess. Later Camel is pretty good though. I go back and forth between "whoa this rules" and "this is sh*t" on Cardiacs.


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 02 2013 at 19:49
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

lol... Neurosis.

Oh yeah? Cool


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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: May 04 2013 at 01:55
I don't mind pre-post-metal (there's a tag for you) Neurosis. However, based on the other options, this was supposed to be a prog poll. Prog has lost much of its meaning with the hyper-inclusiveness of this site.

I'm even skeptical about krautrock lately. It slides by because minimalism is still considered "classical" (another word with a degraded meaning).


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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 04 2013 at 11:47
I think the popular misconception is the actual term "Prog Rock". I'd hate to get all fancy and start this argument, I mean it's been butchered countless times, right? But, do you really expect a band, or a genre for that fact to stay in one place, with one distinctive sound, especially when it's been around for 40+ years. This isn't 1969 people. We've gotten past Mellotron flourishes and Moog solos. It's time to focus on different characteristics of making experimental/progressive music. I mean I realize Prog is such a broad term, basically all music is progressive, but it seems to be Prog has become more of a certain sound, rather than an ideology.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: May 04 2013 at 13:58
My vote goes to Anathema's Angelica. Love that track! Honourable mention to Motorpsycho's S.T.G.

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: May 05 2013 at 01:18
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

I don't mind pre-post-metal (there's a tag for you) Neurosis. However, based on the other options, this was supposed to be a prog poll. Prog has lost much of its meaning with the hyper-inclusiveness of this site.
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I'm even skeptical about krautrock lately. It slides by because minimalism is still considered "classical" (another word with a degraded meaning).


Its not supposed to be a prog poll, its a poll about what track you like not what track is prog.
I have not said anywhere that the track should be prog. Actualy personaly when i listen to a track, i couldent care less if its prog or not.
It must be on PA, but that is a rule of the game, nothing to do with the track beeing prog.


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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: May 05 2013 at 22:52
IMO, including ambient / drone-ish rock is one step too far. At that point, progressive is very close to "any non-standard rock music". Krautrock and progressive electronic at least usually had some sort of "classical" basis.

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Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: May 06 2013 at 21:28
Originally posted by King Crimson776 King Crimson776 wrote:

IMO, including ambient / drone-ish rock is one step too far. At that point, progressive is very close to "any non-standard rock music". Krautrock and progressive electronic at least usually had some sort of "classical" basis.

That's what I'm saying. It's more a specific sound, from a specific era, and most people seem to identify it as that. Progressive music really has no direct meaning any more, cause there's so much out there, 40 years on, and really, all music is progressive, it has to change, nothing stays stagnant. And on the side, minimalism is the classical influence on Krautrock, I assume, right?


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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: May 07 2013 at 16:47
Minimalism, yes. Although I've been doubting how meaningful it is to think of it that way.

Are you saying it should not be identified as a sound, but rather as an ideology of innovation? I have no right to deny others that view, but imo you'd have to include things like the VU and Sonic Youth here then, and it just isn't a very meaningful idea then. I think rather there should be a good "experimental rock" forum for them, and Neurosis. Here's how I've been thinking of it:

Progressive = expansion via complexity, building things up, influence from classical, order. Experimental = expansion via hazard, breaking things down, influence from jazz / ambient / noise, chaos.

Of course, progressive and experimental coexist in many bands. It's not like this would remove too many bands from the archives. Mainly just post-rock. Maybe kraut could be one of those things featured on both. It would depend on the bands. However, it feels awkward to have stark contrasts like symphonic and post-metal side by side here, as though they are even remotely part of the same thing.


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: May 08 2013 at 00:34
I dont understand why you care that much, its not like you are forced to listen to everything on the archives, if you dislike ambient or post metal, you can just stay away from those genres.


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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: May 08 2013 at 01:19
Until not many years ago I was mainly in symphonic and psychedelic, then I started wondering why people should like things like Avant or Post-metal. Later I have discovered that I was already listening to those genres without knowing their names , but most of all I have tried to open my mind trying to understand what people finds in bands like Arcturus or Senmuth, Then I have rediscovered Krautrock and Zeuhl (I had a couple of Magma vinyls and Tago Mago).I don't likeprog metal too much but I have rated The Human Equation with 5 stars....

Just open your minds or, as Tamijo says, just stay away from what you don't like, but at least give a try to the samples first, and give a listen to Joke Inc when you have time.Wink




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