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Topic: The Shaving Den
Posted By: Jim Garten
Subject: The Shaving Den
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 07:29
OK all, I'm curious -

For some, shaving is a pain in the butt, but over the last 6 months or so, for me at least it's gone from being a chore, to a ritual to a pleasure... all because I've gone 'old-school' (and no, I'm not talking straight razors here - they scare the out of me), courtesy of sites such as Badger & Blade, The Shaving Room and The English Shaving Company.

These are sites which extoll the virtues of a good shaving brush, proper soaps (not gels!) and that most important of items, the razor itself.

So, without googling:

Do you know your Cart, from your SE from your DE from your straight?

Proraso, Trumper, Jagger, C&E, Erasmic or other?

Hard puck, stick or cream?

Do you know what an alum block is, what it's for & how to use it?

Merkur Futur, Jagger DE89, Feather Popular or a vintage Slim?

Which of the above is mildest?

Could the above be construed as a trick question?

For the edge, Feather (black or yellow), Derby Extra, Iridium Super, RuiKe WeiFeng or some other?

AS, EDT, Cologne, moisturiser, skin food or none of these?

If you give enough of a damn even to answer all of the above, chances are, like me, you are one of the rising number of people turning away from cheapo throw away razors to well manufactured quality pieces which may just last the rest of your life - as an example, my current razor of choice on those occasions when I can really spend the time (bearing in mind, using one of these means you have to re-learn the art) to use it properly is this:



A Gillette Slim Adjustable, date coded as I3

I = 1963
3 = 3rd quarter

Therefore, this razor was manufactured in the period I was born (possibly even the month), so like me, is nearly 50 years old; loaded with a Derby Extra gives damn near a BBS if I use Geo.Trumper eucris, applied with my best silver tip badger (I can still only guarantee a BBS with my trusty M3 cart mounted on an EJ nickel plated handle, but I'm still learning)

If you've got this far & understand all of the above, or even better, can list your own old-school requisites of choice, or even even better are actually a member of TSR or B&B, then huzzah!

I am genuinely interested, although my wife Vicky would say obsessed... I've only got 4 razors, 2 brushes & 7 shaving soaps!



So far...

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 07:41
I actually quite like shaving too. I don't have to do it that often, but these days I find it all the more satisfying if I let the stubble grow for a good three days before shaving.

As for all that posh shaving soap stuff, I can't really comment. I use some squirty blue Gilette sh*t, that sells quite nice. I apply with my hands, not some hand crafted oriental silk applicator, and I shave it off with Gilette Mach 3 Turbo razers.

Don't do electric. I think my hair grows at weird angles, so I always have to finish with a wet razer anyway.

It would take a lot to convince me of the need to fill my bathroom up with traditional shaving accessories unless doing so was guaranteed to get me laid or make me rich. Preferably in that order...

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 07:46
I don't do wet shaving - simply because I look like a teenager - especially the day after where my face looks like a city of zits. I do enjoy them though, but I find using a trimmer is a lot easier - plus most women my age(and below) prefer stubble nowadays. Thank ford for fashion fadsBig smile

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:07
I just hope no badgers are dying to satisfy your vanity. See the badger badger badger post.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:08
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:


It would take a lot to convince me of the need to fill my bathroom up with traditional shaving accessories unless doing so was guaranteed to get me laid or make me rich. Preferably in that order...
But if you had the latter, the former would surely follow.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:17
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I just hope no badgers are dying to satisfy your vanity. See the badger badger badger post.


Absolutely not Alan - but I do have my brushes checked regularly for TB

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:22
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

As for all that posh shaving soap stuff, I can't really comment. I use some squirty blue Gilette sh*t, that sells quite nice. I apply with my hands, not some hand crafted oriental silk applicator, and I shave it off with Gilette Mach 3 Turbo razers


I think it was Lee (ManErg) who first made my ears prick up on this subject - whe he stayed with Vicky and I a few years ago, he was saying about not having a quick shave when you have a few minutes, but making the time to be able to turn it from a chore to something you look forward to & enjoy.

I also remember the word 'Trumper' coming up at the first prog-curry, but whether that was to do with Lee shaving or something else, I'm not sure

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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:27
I must admit that this was Greek to me. Wait, I actually understand some Greek. This was more like Chinese.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:31
Nihau


or is that ni haoConfused


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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:31
I need to shave daily, but I only do it every other day because I can get away with it.  I haven't owned an electric razor in decades, I just use Gillette shaving cream ("for sensitive skin" cause I'm a sensitive man) and cheap disposable Bic razors.  I really haven't given my shaving process much thought before, and I certainly haven't come to appreciate it as a ritual.  It's a chore that takes a few extra minutes at the sink every other day, though I do enjoy the fresh feeling of a clean shaven face.

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:34
I started using my dad's old electric razor (dating from 1963), but I converted to wet shaving sometime during the second half of the 90's.
Nowadays I have two Gillette razors (a Contour Plus and since last month a newer type with five blades for the sundays), shaving foam or a stick, and the shattered remains of an alum block when necessary.



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:34
I have to shave today before I start looking like a Russian bear hunter. I even promised my mom, because I'm visiting the folks for my own birthdayEmbarrassed

PA is all things to all people. Today it reminded me to shave. The Internet butler.


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:40
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

PA is all things to all people. Today it reminded me to shave. The Internet butler




Originally posted by soneone_else soneone_else wrote:

and the shattered remains of an alum block when necessary


Aha - our 1st alum block user

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:41
I like my beard.

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:41

I generally shave daily with an electric razor, which ironically I skipped this morning.  I can't really grow a beard, and it takes a few days for me to grow a semi-5 O'Clock shadow, but my occupation is such where it is best that I remove the stubble on a daily basis.



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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:44
Hahah I made a 70s stache with a bit of a goatee underneath. I look like I should be in that Beastie Boys vidBig smile

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 08:57
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I am genuinely interested, although my wife Vicky would say obsessed...
Ermm Vicky strikes me as being quite an astute person.
 
 
 
I don't like shaving and I don't like beards. Unfortunately the only cure for both those has unwanted side affects, but does give you a couple of things to play with in the shower. I preferred the days when all I needed to remove the bumfluff was a rough towel which, (in the 70s when Lenor fabric softener was a luxury), was not hard to find in our house.
 
Now-a-days I'm a shave when I have to kind of person, which is sporadic to say the least, so I have what's best described as an overgrown goatee. This requires the combination of a Flymo garden strimmer and a DeWalt orbital sander to bring under control before I can attack the remaining stubble with Wilkinson Sword's finest blades... The more edges the better for me and a hefty weight to them too - I can't get on with plastic disposable Bic razors - fine for shaving your legs maybe (dunno, never tried, honest) but not for the hirsute manly jowls - I once made the mistake of "borrowing" the wife's lady-razor when on holiday - I've not seen such mess and carnage since I fell off my bike and used my face as a brake. By accident rather than design, my goatee has developed a curious pointy appearance, not sure why this is so and while my wife does not believe me, it wasn't done purposely.
 
I've a couple of antique auto-strop single-edge safety razors somewhere, though I haven't seen them for years - I remember trying to use them years ago and decided I'd get better results with a rusty butter knife. The blades from these were much treasured for making balsa wood models because of their wedge shaped profile which made them much sturdier than the normal Gilette or Schick safety razor blades.
 
Anyone remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyall_Watson" rel="nofollow - Lyall Watson's Supernature? In 1973 when this came out it claimed that old razor blades could be revived by keeping them in a scale model pyramid as long as it was perfectly aligned with the cardinal compass points.  Of course, in the MoD apprentice school in the interest of buggering about with cardboard and Copydex and other general work-avoidance schemes, we had to try this out for ourselves - let's say the results were inconclusive and far from scientific - I can report that these scale models did fail to preserve pieces of NAAFI fruit cake, though we were dissuaded from catching mice to see if they could be mummified by the secret power of the square-based pyramid ... (but I digress).
 
 


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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 09:31
Lyall Watson's books were great.

I like having a beard, because I'm rubbish at shaving, and it gives me a rash.

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 10:00
I have a grizzly curly beard right now because I'm too lazy to shave, and nobody at the office cares.  When I do actually shave, I usually use a pull razor (or whatever the hell those are actually called) but mainly just because the trimmer on my electric razor is busted.

Next week I'm planning on going back to my porn-star 'stache of yore.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 10:33
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I am genuinely interested, although my wife Vicky would say obsessed...

Ermm Vicky strikes me as being quite an astute person.


Dean, you have no idea
 
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Anyone remember http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyall_Watson" rel="nofollow - Lyall Watson's Supernature? In 1973 when this came out it claimed that old razor blades could be revived by keeping them in a scale model pyramid as long as it was perfectly aligned with the cardinal compass points. 


I remember that! All I need to do now is build myself a small pyramid, align it correctly & voila - no need to buy blades again

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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 10:51
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I also remember the word 'Trumper' coming up at the first prog-curry, but whether that was to do with Lee shaving or something else, I'm not sure
I think we both know the answer to that. Wink


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 10:55
Ever since i needed to shave, i have, every day. I use disposable razors, which is kind of lazy, but who cares.
    I could never have a full beard because i have sleep apnea and wear a mask strapped to my face while i sleep, and a beard would make that problematic.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 11:02
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I also remember the word 'Trumper' coming up at the first prog-curry, but whether that was to do with Lee shaving or something else, I'm not sure

I think we both know the answer to that. Wink


Ah - where's Lee when you need him?

He'd understand...

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 13:51
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

 my current razor of choice on those occasions when I can really spend the time (bearing in mind, using one of these means you have to re-learn the art) to use it properly is this:

A Gillette Slim Adjustable, date coded as I3

I = 1963
3 = 3rd quarter
 

So 50 years of technological and engineering progress did not achieve any improvement on something so fundamental that half of the Earth's population needs? (and some of the other half Wink). What a shame Angry

For me shaving is a pain, I don't feel comfortable with a stubble of more than 2 or 3 days at maximum, it itches, I scratch and my face skin gets red like a ripe tormato. I can't bear electric shavers either, only wet. I use gel and Gillette Mach 3 (not the Plus, I don't like that slimy stuff bands), a rather old device but it does the job and the blades last reasonably.

Well I guess that having the period is a pain too, probably even more, each gender got its share of routine burden.


Posted By: Gamemako
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 14:10
I do electric all the way around my face and head. Faster, cheaper, no nicks and cuts.

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 14:23
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:



Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

 my current razor of choice on those occasions when I can really spend the time (bearing in mind, using one of these means you have to re-learn the art) to use it properly is this:

A Gillette Slim Adjustable, date coded as I3

I = 1963
3 = 3rd quarter
 
I use gel and Gillette Mach 3


So do I, a lot of the time... (not the gel though... Bleaugh!) It's a great razor if you need a good result in a fairly short time.

The reason I'm getting into DE is I want to be able to get an even better result, even if it takes longer to do.

I see it as learning a new skill (ok, ok, I'm a sad git )... Think of it as the difference between using a cheap digital camera (which will give you an almost guaranteed acceptable result) and going back to an older, completely manual film camera. You'll get just as good a result, possibly better, but the hardware forces you to take your time and think about what you're doing.

Somebody please post in support

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 14:45
Oh sure I understand it, I'm a motorbike rider and I like cars (although I can't afford owning any, I settle with my company-given decent but rather boring car), and although I own a modern sports bike, I reckon that riding a classic motorbike (which I have had the chance to do a few times) has a very special charm, even if of course performance itself can't be compared. Unfortunately with oldtimer cars I have had very few chances to drive one, but I love them (my current screensaver is a collection of oldtimer cars pics) and I have had the chance to drive a couple of them and it's also a great feeling (my favourite oldtimer drive being a beautiful Karmann-VW Ghia owned by a friend).


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 18:40
Tried a double edge razor a few times. To be honest, I'll take the not-quite-as-close shave of my handy dandy electric razor over the insane amount of razor bumps I get with any razor, double-edge or Gillette. A yes I did use different kinds of cream, after shave balms, and going with the grain. It's really just not worth it. 

I'm actually just biding my time until my cheeks fill out and I can have a consistent stubble. I think I look better with it and so do most people who take notice. I might be waiting a few more years at this pace. Genetics, man.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 19:07
When I was a lad a family friend gave me a Merkur--  it was a fabulous piece of craftsmanship but like many a poor soul with a beard that is nail-like in toughness, it didn't really do the trick for me.   This is probably when I took the easy way out and just started buying disposables.   There have been advances and are some good if expensive throwaways, but I suspect Jim is right; a real high quality razor beats all.



Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 19:33
I never liked the tug & pull from an electric and I find wet shaving a lot more comfortable. I use a Gillette 5 blade with a heavy handle as I like the weight in my hand. I use gel as it provides the most comfort and ease of use.

Anyone shave more than their chin?


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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: May 10 2013 at 20:35
How's this for weird...  I've never used anything other than an electric razor.  And therefore, I think, I've never had what I'd consider a "clean shave".  My dad got me an electric for a birthday (16? 17?), so I never learned to use a "wet razor" (or whatever; I've never even heard that term!).  Now I'm just too nervous to try it!  I've had a beard since age 22 (and I've never been without a mustache since it first grew!), much because I hate to shave.  Plus I can imagine all of the comments I'd get if I shaved one or both off!  Even if complementary, they'd make me uncomfortable.

What a great thread!  Big smile


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 02:10
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

When I was a lad a family friend gave me a Merkur--  it was a fabulous piece of craftsmanship but like many a poor soul with a beard that is nail-like in toughness, it didn't really do the trick for me.


That will probably have been the blades you used... If you still have it, try again with Feather Blacks & a good soap; no beard will withstand that...

...alternatively, if you still have it & don't want it....



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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 02:14
^ Oh I wish I did--  misplaced it years ago.   And yes, as I recall the blades had buffers on the edge.



Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 07:41
Buffers on the edge?

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 07:50
Buffers on the edge.
Sounds like a new Yes tribute band

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 07:56
Sounds like the current Yes line up.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 07:58


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 08:19
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:


Anyone shave more than their chin?
Dead Let's not go there.
 
Mind you, my ears could do with a shave now.


Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 08:26
Great. Now I've got Homer in my skull singing 'I'm shaaaving my shoulders'

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 15:30
I gave up on shaving facial hair a long time ago.  Too damned itchy as my hair is fairly curly.  I keep the beard neat most of the time.  I also cut my own head hair.  I've been using a set of Wahl clippers for many years now.  This is funny though, my nose hairs are a nuisance, I've got a special set of trimmers for those when they get out of order. Headbanger

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 18:48
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Buffers on the edge?
Yes, it was a strip of tin (or something) that covered the edge.  It had small half-circle openings that allowed a shave without the danger of severely cutting or razor-burning oneself.




Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 13 2013 at 21:59
You guys are shaving during the Stanley Cup playoffs?

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 14 2013 at 02:22
It was either that or watching paint dry

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 14 2013 at 02:26
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:


Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Buffers on the edge?
Yes, it was a strip of tin (or something) that covered the edge.  It had small half-circle openings that allowed a shave without the danger of severely cutting or razor-burning oneself.


I have it on good authority that what you had may be 'face guard' blades.

People, you are being observed by members of a shaving community; best behaviour, now

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 15 2013 at 02:42
 ^ yeah face guards sound right-- it protected me but I didn't get a good shave which is probably why I stopped using it.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 17 2013 at 10:37
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

People, you are being observed by members of a shaving community; best behaviour, now


Correction - two shaving communities now... be afraid.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 04:55
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I just hope no badgers are dying to satisfy your vanity. See the badger badger badger post.


Absolutely not Alan - but I do have my brushes checked regularly for TB
The french word for shaving brush is blaireau and the french word for badger is blaireau.
 
and if we translated that sentence into french would become: "Le mot français pour blaireau est blaireau et le mot français pour le blaireau est blaireau" ... Ermm LOL


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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 06:23


And they wondered why I dropped French at school!

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 07:28
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I just hope no badgers are dying to satisfy your vanity. See the badger badger badger post.


Absolutely not Alan - but I do have my brushes checked regularly for TB
The french word for shaving brush is blaireau and the french word for badger is blaireau.
 
and if we translated that sentence into french would become: "Le mot français pour blaireau est blaireau et le mot français pour le blaireau est blaireau" ... Ermm LOL
In the unlikely event that you frequented a French shop that sold genetlemens shaving accoutrements and large mammals, that could cause all sorts of confusion.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 07:53
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I just hope no badgers are dying to satisfy your vanity. See the badger badger badger post.


Absolutely not Alan - but I do have my brushes checked regularly for TB
The french word for shaving brush is blaireau and the french word for badger is blaireau.
 
and if we translated that sentence into french would become: "Le mot français pour blaireau est blaireau et le mot français pour le blaireau est blaireau" ... Ermm LOL
In the unlikely event that you frequented a French shop that sold genetlemens shaving accoutrements and large mammals, that could cause all sorts of confusion.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 08:25
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I just hope no badgers are dying to satisfy your vanity. See the badger badger badger post.


Absolutely not Alan - but I do have my brushes checked regularly for TB
The french word for shaving brush is blaireau and the french word for badger is blaireau.
 
and if we translated that sentence into french would become: "Le mot français pour blaireau est blaireau et le mot français pour le blaireau est blaireau" ... Ermm LOL
In the unlikely event that you frequented a French shop that sold genetlemens shaving accoutrements and large mammals, that could cause all sorts of confusion.
                                                                                    Ermm
 
Have you tried shaving with a badger? They get very upset when you squirt the shaving foam on them.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 08:45
Badgers?  We don't need no stinkin' badgers!


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 11:17
Dammit - this thread is descending into tomfoolery



Today, I used my 1963 Gillette slim adjustable, dialled to 3 with a Gillette 7 o/c (yellow) blade; preparation was courtesy of my Edwin Jagger silver tip badger brush and Geo.Trumper Eucris soap - a wonderfully close & comfortable shave, followed by post shave alum block use & Truefit & Hill No.10 Cologne Balm...



So there.

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 11:20
And I used that photo of Leslie Nielsen http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=59678&PN=107" rel="nofollow - here ages ago... Hmph!

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 11:54
I know. Due to recent EU regulations on the paucity of humorous materials on tonsorial and pogonotomy topics together with the associated heath and environmental problems concerning their transportation over the unfettered airspace over low-lying countries and storage in makeshift quarantine facilities lacking in the basic masculine grooming accoutrements it is necessary to reuse smutty innuendo images more than once, turning them inside out if necessary.

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 12:19
Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

I know. Due to recent EU regulations on the paucity of humorous materials on tonsorial and pogonotomy topics together with the associated heath and environmental problems concerning their transportation over the unfettered airspace over low-lying countries and storage in makeshift quarantine facilities lacking in the basic masculine grooming accoutrements it is necessary to reuse smutty innuendo images more than once, turning them inside out if necessary.

Bloody Brussels bureaucrats at it again.   


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 12:23
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Dammit - this thread is descending into tomfoolery


Sorry, I promise not to mention badgers again.

Damn.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 12:26
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Dammit - this thread is descending into tomfoolery


Sorry, I promise not to mention badgers again.

Damn.
Mr Brock is seldom amused
 


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Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: May 20 2013 at 12:34
Belle Castor !

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 23 2013 at 10:01
You can't make this stuff up: http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentish_express/news/Giant-badger-1004/" rel="nofollow - Giant badger 'causing hysteria' at Folkestone School for Girls

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: May 23 2013 at 10:08
Giant badger???!!!!
 
That would make a great horror movie.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: May 23 2013 at 10:39
Or indeed an episode of Dr Who:



"She's got more hair than me, why should he make his shaving brush from mine?"

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 16 2013 at 10:17
Bump...

...not that many would be interested, but thought I'd do so anyway to show off pictures of my latest aquisitions (just stock photos)

Edwin Jagger DE89:



Merkur Futur:



Both the above are brand new & are a joy to shave with

LIKE YOU CARE!

This one though is a 1970's vintage Shick Injector (model L, actually):



Only arrived today, so you'll all have to wait with bated breath until I can give you an update after the weekend.

Oooh, I can almost smell the tension...

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 16 2013 at 10:26
Excuse me, but you are a collector of... razorblades? 


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 16 2013 at 10:31
Not blades as such, but I do appreciate well made proper razors, as opposed to the money wasting cartridge systems the manufacturers fob you off with

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: August 16 2013 at 10:37
It's true that paying 15 euros for 5 blades is a pill rather hard to swallow.

Luckily (?), I often spend many months without shaving, so I don't spend so much money on these cartridges.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: August 16 2013 at 10:40
Just pay about 15 Euros on a Feather Popular DE razor (they come with a couple of blades in a case); it was my first foray into DE razors & I never looked back.

Trust me on this!

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 11:08
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:



Only arrived today, so you'll all have to wait with bated breath until I can give you an update after the weekend.

Oooh, I can almost smell the tension...


How remiss of me - I didn't get back to you on the results of the Schick Injector model L... so sorry

Seems to be one of those rare razors where it's actually impossible to cut yourself shaving; in fact, it hardly feels like you're shaving at all.

Not 100% sure I like it yet although it's still included in the rotation - just seems too mild...

Now - aren't you all glad I remembered to update you all?

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 04 2013 at 07:14
Ooh look! 2 more aquisitions

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JimGarten/media/R1_zpsc0cc7dff.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JimGarten/media/R3_zps47892430.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JimGarten/media/R2_zpsf4a1f352.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">

1949 Fat-Handled Tech + 1951 Ball-Ended Tech (both English Gillettes) - both restored by my good-self from very grubby & tarnished eBay aquisitions.

How generous am I to you, to show you these, eh?

I can just feel the excitement from the other forum members!



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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 02:41
The latest in this eagerly anticipated feast of shaving updates:

The Schick Injector (see above) deemed too mild & couldn't get on with it (I know, I know - you're all saying it depends on angle & prep, but just wasn't for me), so exchanged this with a fellow TSR member for this:



Japanese made Weishi TTO in black chrome - lovely piece of kit & as it comes with its own case, ideal to use as a travel razor & gives an excellent shave.

Also...

What? There's more? I hear you ask... Well still your beating hearts & heaving trousers, 'cos the ride of excitement continues!

Got one!

Been on the lookout for one of these since getting into vintage razors & finally obtained one...



A Gillette long handled super adjustable "Black Beauty" (date coded O2, so as you all know this is 2nd quarter of 1969)

Tell me this is not a thing of beauty - long handle means perfectly balanced, the adjustable TTO head almost guarantees a BBS every time.

Look guys, I know I've given you way too much excitement for one day so I'll leave you to it now...

...until a 1950's flare tip comes my way.



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Posted By: *frinspar*
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 03:07
After I saw Basie get punished in 'Empire of the Sun' for stealing the camp commander's soap, I was deathly afraid to ever shave. So when I was old enough to finally grow hair on my face I let it go without ever shaving. I've now saved 5 hikers that fell into steep ravines with my incredible face rope. I think it was the right choice.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 07:12
In which case, you should shave said rope off & keep it in a safe place

Advice available

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 07:24
Originally posted by *frinspar* *frinspar* wrote:

After I saw Basie get punished in 'Empire of the Sun' for stealing the camp commander's soap, I was deathly afraid to ever shave. So when I was old enough to finally grow hair on my face I let it go without ever shaving. I've now saved 5 hikers that fell into steep ravines with my incredible face rope. I think it was the right choice.


LOL

I don't ever let my beard go like that, but if I did it'd be a wild sight for sure. Very coarse and curly looking thing it is, I could just imagine it down to my belly bottom...yikes. 

Oh and for the record you guys, it's the bearded month of November where everybody seems to be into moustaches. I just grew my beard back tbh. I look like a cop from Jutland with a stacheErmm


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 08:05
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

I look like a cop from Jutland with a stacheErmm

Ermm " a cop from Jutland"???  Is that a well-known Danish euphemism or just rhyming slang?
 





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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 08:08
Now there's a chap who needs to lather up, load a Feather in his Fatboy & go to it

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 08:11
LOL Nah it's just that a large portion of Danish police men sport staches and the police academy resides in Jutland, so there is a lot of coppers running round with a Jutland accent. Yeah........soooo I could basically boil my initial post down to: If i do the stache I look like a cop...

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 08:14
Or if you remained clean shaven, you'd look like a well groomed gentleman.

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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 08:28
I actually prefer to keep a little stubble. Most chicks seem to dig thatBig smile Plus I usually get a full face of bumps/zits when I go for the close shave. I've tried some moisturising cream afterwards, but it doesn't have the effect I want it to, sadly. 

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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 10:07
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

I just hope no badgers are dying to satisfy your vanity. See the badger badger badger post.


Absolutely not Alan - but I do have my brushes checked regularly for TB
The french word for shaving brush is blaireau and the french word for badger is blaireau.
 
and if we translated that sentence into french would become: "Le mot français pour blaireau est blaireau et le mot français pour le blaireau est blaireau" ... Ermm LOL
In the unlikely event that you frequented a French shop that sold genetlemens shaving accoutrements and large mammals, that could cause all sorts of confusion.
                                                                                    Ermm
 
Have you tried shaving with a badger? They get very upset when you squirt the shaving foam on them.


Badgers? No. I have tried a weasel. It ripped my flesh though.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 10:36
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Plus I usually get a full face of bumps/zits when I go for the close shave. I've tried some moisturising cream afterwards, but it doesn't have the effect I want it to, sadly


Ah well, here you see the problem is partially preparation, partially the products used & partially the razor (I'm suspecting a modern disposable cartridge razor, yes?)

Preparation -

Ideally showering first, as the steamy atmosphere (oo-er etc) will soften the stubble. Alternatively, a flannel soaked in hot water & held to the face for 30 seconds will also do the trick.

Product -

Don't use canned goo! Use a decent shaving soap (a pre-shave oil can help too) - this will allow the blade to glide properly & prevent the pulling which causes the bumps, nicks, redness, irritation etc.

Razor -

Need I eulogise about decent razors any more than I have already? A decent DE razor with a good blade will give you a far better shave than a cartridge razor.

Moisturisers are all very well, but a good post shave balm containing witchhazel/menthol will calm any razor burn you may get & leave you soft, smooth & irresistible to the laydees.

Pip Pip

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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 10:45
With a good shoeshine and a well knotted tie and you are ready. Seasick Steve here saying ain't gonna happen.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 10:50
You do realise Seasick Steve's image is manufactured don't you

On stage:



Without makeup:



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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 10:54
^not really a fan and have never heard his music


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 10:57
^^ ... even I can recognise a picture of AC Grayling when I see one LOL

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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 10:59
looks the part of philosopher


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 11:07
Actually, I think it looks like Robert Fripp in a wig

Aaaaanyway; back to this fascinating topic -

Any more shaving advice needed? Personal grooming anecdotes to be shared? Newly aquired razors to be gloated over??

Please??

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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 11:12
Pogonotomia...........sounds like a disease.... I am done now........carry on


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 11:22
Pogonotomy eh?

I like that word

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Posted By: *frinspar*
Date Posted: November 21 2013 at 14:41
Originally posted by timothy leary timothy leary wrote:

Pogonotomia...........sounds like a disease.... I am done now........carry on


Welp, now I'll have that stuck in my head for the rest of the day to the tune of "Onomatopoeia" by Spock's Beard. LOL

I wouldn't mind one day going in for the full service barber shop shave with hot towel, straight razor pulled across the strop and all, but as it goes, I just use whatever razors my wife picks up at CVS that add to her Extra Care Bucks total. lol Although I do ask that she limit her search to no more than 3 blades. Anything more just sounds like evil overkill that a face shouldn't be put through.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: November 22 2013 at 02:38
Single blade, mate - that's the key; I defy anyone to get a better shave with a cartridge razor.

Also, over here, average pack of cartridges about £12 ($15ish...?) or 100 razor blades about a tenner, so at about 3/4 shaves per blade = about a year's shaving for £10.

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 07:37
God I'm so good to you guys - here I am about to share a couple of pictures of my latest aquisition (you lucky people!!)

http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JimGarten/media/OC2_zps7aac6572.jpg.html" rel="nofollow"> http://smg.photobucket.com/user/JimGarten/media/OC1_zps0e311da3.jpg.html" rel="nofollow">

As is obvious from the photos this is a pre war Gillette Open-Comb; that's pre first world war & my first experience of open comb.

Don't you all feel so privileged to share in this thread?

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 08:02
^So this is at least a century old. Quite surprising; I wouldn't believe this at first sight.

Anyway, shaving tools must have improved a bit since this happened (it was 125 years ago today):

Vince just lost his ear. Remarkable detail: he has a beard on most of his self portraits.

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 09:28
^oops
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

I like my beard.
Me too.  I mean mine, not yours of course. LOL  Not that there's anything wrong with yours as far as I know.


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Posted By: weetabix
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 19:53
shaving razors cold and it stings.


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 21:54
Got my beard back now. Took just under 2 months to get it big and full again.
No shaving for this progger...not for a long while.
The beard gives me powers.

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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: December 23 2013 at 22:00
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

OK all, I'm curious -

For some, shaving is a pain in the butt, but over the last 6 months or so, for me at least it's gone from being a chore, to a ritual to a pleasure... all because I've gone 'old-school' (and no, I'm not talking straight razors here - they scare the out of me), courtesy of sites such as Badger & Blade, The Shaving Room and The English Shaving Company.

These are sites which extoll the virtues of a good shaving brush, proper soaps (not gels!) and that most important of items, the razor itself.

So, without googling:

Do you know your Cart, from your SE from your DE from your straight?

Proraso, Trumper, Jagger, C&E, Erasmic or other?

Hard puck, stick or cream?

Do you know what an alum block is, what it's for & how to use it?

Merkur Futur, Jagger DE89, Feather Popular or a vintage Slim?

Which of the above is mildest?

Could the above be construed as a trick question?

For the edge, Feather (black or yellow), Derby Extra, Iridium Super, RuiKe WeiFeng or some other?

AS, EDT, Cologne, moisturiser, skin food or none of these?

If you give enough of a damn even to answer all of the above, chances are, like me, you are one of the rising number of people turning away from cheapo throw away razors to well manufactured quality pieces which may just last the rest of your life - as an example, my current razor of choice on those occasions when I can really spend the time (bearing in mind, using one of these means you have to re-learn the art) to use it properly is this:



A Gillette Slim Adjustable, date coded as I3

I = 1963
3 = 3rd quarter

Therefore, this razor was manufactured in the period I was born (possibly even the month), so like me, is nearly 50 years old; loaded with a Derby Extra gives damn near a BBS if I use Geo.Trumper eucris, applied with my best silver tip badger (I can still only guarantee a BBS with my trusty M3 cart mounted on an EJ nickel plated handle, but I'm still learning)

If you've got this far & understand all of the above, or even better, can list your own old-school requisites of choice, or even even better are actually a member of TSR or B&B, then huzzah!

I am genuinely interested, although my wife Vicky would say obsessed... I've only got 4 razors, 2 brushes & 7 shaving soaps!



So far...


Wow. You really know what you are doing. Gonna make the ladies happy I guess. Also, heating the face with the barbers shave blade (single) works best for me. Gotta pretty thick carpet on my face at the moment, but that is how it shall be for a while. So tired of shaving, but this thread is really interesting actually. Got some nifty hardware there. :)

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 24 2013 at 04:31
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

^So this is at least a century old. Quite surprising; I wouldn't believe this at first sight.

Anyway, shaving tools must have improved a bit since this happened (it was 125 years ago today):

Vince just lost his ear. Remarkable detail: he has a beard on most of his self portraits.


The closest I can guess at its true age is at least 104 years old - for those who care, it has a Gillette 'old type' head - these were replaced by the Gillette New around 1910.

The one I aquired will need to be treated with extreme respect - it's about 2 stages down from using a straight razor - if I'm not careful, I will do a Van Gough

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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 24 2013 at 04:33
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

...this thread is really interesting actually. Got some nifty hardware there


Thanks - the shaving rotation now includes 9 DE razors, from 1910 - current production.

It's not an obsession, honest!

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: December 24 2013 at 07:27
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

...this thread is really interesting actually. Got some nifty hardware there


Thanks - the shaving rotation now includes 9 DE razors, from 1910 - current production.

It's not an obsession, honest!
 
Uh,,,,sounds a bit obsessive to me.
 
 
I use BIC double edged disposable razors and never have a problem with a close shave nor any nicks.
At any rate I like that 1 or 2 day growth look that many actors and others cultivate...looks manly...and sexy.
Wink
 


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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: December 24 2013 at 09:40
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

^So this is at least a century old. Quite surprising; I wouldn't believe this at first sight.

Anyway, shaving tools must have improved a bit since this happened (it was 125 years ago today):

Vince just lost his ear. Remarkable detail: he has a beard on most of his self portraits.


The closest I can guess at its true age is at least 104 years old - for those who care, it has a Gillette 'old type' head - these were replaced by the Gillette New around 1910.

The one I aquired will need to be treated with extreme respect - it's about 2 stages down from using a straight razor - if I'm not careful, I will do a Van Gough


   Merry Christmas, Jim. I hope your stalking is filled with many many razors from the old country.

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