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Topic: PC or Mac?
Posted By: Gerinski
Subject: PC or Mac?
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 11:57
I'm afraid my computer (a PC desktop around 9 years old) is starting to cry for a replacement soon. I always had PC's never a Mac. I'm hesitating what should be my next computer.

Current use, approx:

Surfing, email & other internet stuff: 65%
Work (MS Office, excel, powerpoint, word, SQL etc): 15%
Entertainment (pictures, movies etc, but no games, I rarely play any computer game):   5%
Music: 10% 
Other stuff:   5%
I have it on hold now, but I used to use the PC for making music with Cubasis and interface with my instruments, I have a good soundcard with all the interface ports for audio and midi, and I plan to re-start the music stuff, possibly upgrading to Cubase or other better DAW than the rather crappy Cubasis.

(I don't have an iPod or iPad and I'm not too keen on getting one, so the subject of Apple multi-device compatibility is not much important).

Any advice is welcome, thanks!



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Posted By: VOTOMS
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 12:24
I don't like apple Pig

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 13:16
I use a PC at work, and a Mac at home.   Mac does have a software package for MS Office, so you can work in Excel and Word, but it's not quite as powerful or easy to use as the real thing.  It works in a pinch, though.  My wife works in graphic design, and people in that line of work almost always use Macs, while people in more data-intensive business settings like me use PCs almost exclusively.  As far as internet browsing and email, I don't think there's much difference in what you can get with a Mac vs PC, it's more what you're used to.

I'd tend to recommend you stick with PC since you're comfortable with that format, but should you decide on Mac, it's quite easy to pick up and very user friendly.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 13:53
I picked the one that's functional that I can play games on.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 16:26
Don;t know very much about computers but I have always owned PC's.

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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 16:42
There is no logical or rational reason to buy any Apple product so there is no point trying to decide using reason. Just buy what you want - neither work perfectly or do exactly what you want them to (or expect them to), neither are "better" than the other (or any worse). If you want a Mac then buy a Mac, if you don't want a Mac then don't buy a Mac, if you want to give Bill Gates even more money for something you've paid for a dozen times over already then buy a PC.

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 16:49
Originally posted by Dean

if you want to give Bill Gates even more money for something you've paid for a dozen times over already then buy a PC.


At least he's one of the most charitable philanthropists in the world.  Also a weak argument because the price of a Mac is inflated to pay for the OS as well.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 17:03
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

Originally posted by Dean

if you want to give Bill Gates even more money for something you've paid for a dozen times over already then buy a PC.


At least he's one of the most charitable philanthropists in the world.  Also a weak argument because the price of a Mac is inflated to pay for the OS as well.
I'm not giving an argument. I would level the same criticism at Apple as I do at Microsoft. If Jobs were still alive I'd have poke at his earnings too.
 
Gates' charitable philanthropy is irrelevant. If you were paid what he is paid then you'd be a philanthropist too (and still have more money left over than you'd know what to do with). The real measure of a charitable philanthropist is giving money you cannot afford.
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 18:13
Apple sucks

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 18:30
Really don't care. I use PC just because it's cheaper but whatever, it's all fine.

Only thing I can say about Mac is I love the almost madman like attention to detail and "aesthetics" including Steve Jobs personally making sure any excess glue was removed from around a bolt...yet my friend had space bar issues with his, and another had a few issues over time
Could be bad luck, but with such extreme car of detail, and high price, it's a little funny that so many physical issues have popped up.

Who cares about the men that run the companies? They are/were both rich as all f**k and were both egomaniacal dictators. If you wanna squabble over who was nuttier, go for it LOL


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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 19:45
How about neither. I just moved across the country and got a new computer and it's already driving me nuts. It hates my guts even more than the last one. I actually looked at some Aple computers. What is their game? Charging you more money just so can go even more insane?   

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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 19:54
Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Triceratopsoil

Originally posted by Dean

if you want to give Bill Gates even more money for something you've paid for a dozen times over already then buy a PC.


At least he's one of the most charitable philanthropists in the world.  Also a weak argument because the price of a Mac is inflated to pay for the OS as well.
I'm not giving an argument. I would level the same criticism at Apple as I do at Microsoft. If Jobs were still alive I'd have poke at his earnings too.
 
Gates' charitable philanthropy is irrelevant. If you were paid what he is paid then you'd be a philanthropist too (and still have more money left over than you'd know what to do with). The real measure of a charitable philanthropist is giving money you cannot afford.
 
 
 
 

First I would save the world then I'd buy one of these completely restored like it came out of the Castle Bromwich factory in 1942. Better than sex.





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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 12 2013 at 20:13
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby

First I would save the world then I'd buy one of these completely restored like it came out of the Castle Bromwich factory in 1942. Better than sex.


Yes, but just think of the sex you could get with Bill Gates' money. And all while flying in an airplane. That's why they call it a cockpit, I suppose.


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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 01:56
I've always used PCs, and I rather them than Macs, so I would recommend PC. But buy whatever you want.

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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 14:18
Build your own PC and you'll ask yourself the (PC\Mac) question again.

http://www.newegg.com/" rel="nofollow - www.newegg.com


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 14:52
Originally posted by dwill123

Build your own PC and you'll ask yourself the (PC\Mac) question again.

http://www.newegg.com/" rel="nofollow - www.newegg.com
Well that's a point, I'm not a computer technician at all but at least with my PCs I can do some stuff, I have upgraded the RAM, replaced the power supply when it got broken, upgraded the sound card, the network card, installed a USB port hub etc etc, I can understand the basic architecture of the system and work on it, I'm not afraid of tearing the PC down in pieces and work on it.
With Mac I have no experience at all, I have no idea how they look inside, I guess they're not too different from PCs but I don't know and that removes confidence.
I guess I will stick to PC, also the choice of software is bigger for PC than for Mac.


Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 15:48
Now on a MacBook Pro to conform with my office mates.  I have an Ubuntu VM and a WinXP VM available as needed.


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 16:20
I have a 16 PC running Debian Linux:
Raspberry Pi Type A
Big smile
 
Let's see a Mac do that Wink


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 18:35
I'm pretty sure a Mac is perfectly capable of running Debian.  Wink


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 19:16

...and all for 999 - bargain.



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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 19:36
I Am a PC.

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 19:48
Originally posted by Dean

...and all for 999 - bargain.



I won't tell you what mine costs then.  Cool


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: June 13 2013 at 21:40
Originally posted by Gerinski

Originally posted by dwill123

Build your own PC and you'll ask yourself the (PC\Mac) question again.

http://www.newegg.com/" rel="nofollow - www.newegg.com
Well that's a point, I'm not a computer technician at all but at least with my PCs I can do some stuff, I have upgraded the RAM, replaced the power supply when it got broken, upgraded the sound card, the network card, installed a USB port hub etc etc, I can understand the basic architecture of the system and work on it, I'm not afraid of tearing the PC down in pieces and work on it.
With Mac I have no experience at all, I have no idea how they look inside, I guess they're not too different from PCs but I don't know and that removes confidence.
I guess I will stick to PC, also the choice of software is bigger for PC than for Mac.
Grab a cold one and watch these videos.  There are others on YouTube some better, lots & lots worst (but even the bad ones can still have bits of info).  The thing is you can always buy a Dell or whatever from the store ready to go.  No headache, no hassle.  These usually have good average components.  They work and they are have warranties. The issue is they are average in performance.  When you build you can put what you want into the build.  More features, better performance and usually no more money.  Plus when it's finished there's almost a feeling of invincibility.  You've done it.  Any way check some videos, go to some forums and decide.  Good luck.

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 08:58
Built my own PC two years ago. I hate Macs, I tried using them at college for a year and the OS drove me round the bend, there seems to be no logic to it's set up (ironic, given that Logic was installed on all of them). 

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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 19:33
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 19:37

I'm far from a expert, and while I really can't say I care, PC just seems easier, and cheaper.

Trust me. You do NOT need to be a computer wiz to build a PC, and can do so at a great price that fits your need.
As for Apple, I'll give em/Jobs credit, they built an amazing marketing campaign.
They are "different" and "artsy" which kinda covers the fact they are like any other mega business LOL
Again, I've heard too many stories about tech issues (often simple ones) considering the price...and they seem needlessly complicated/difficult.


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Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 17:03
Mac. I've used both for many years, and my user experience has always been miles ahead on Mac. No comparison. I like Macs, I dislike Windows. The way they look, the way they work, the way they sound, the way they behave. I gladly pay more.


Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 17:25
Brand PCs tend to have cramped cases and suspicious/insufficient power supplies which makes them impossible or risky to upgrade. Plus when something breaks you have to RMA the whole thing as opposed to just replacing the faulty part.


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 17:42
Originally posted by JJLehto


Trust me. You do NOT need to be a computer wiz to build a PC, and can do so at a great price that fits your need.



If you can play with lego you can assemble a PC.  Picking the right parts might be another question, but there are 13052435094350 resources available to help with that so ignorance is a bad excuse.  I wish more people knew this :)


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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 07:26
From what I know, there is a limited number of manufacturers who actually make the hardware components and assemble computers. I don't know if there is much architectural difference between Macs and PC's any more. We had one Mac laptop a few years ago, and I don't remember it being any faster, more efficient or easier to use than any of the PC laptops I have had since 1997. The Mac had 3 major disadvantages, though: (1) Was 3 times more expensive than a comparable PC laptop, (2) Safari was awful .. even more awful than the already awful IE, (3) Its hard drive died on us in 14 months. 

The Verdict: a generic PC that runs Ubuntu seems to be the best bang for the buck overall. 


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 29 2013 at 23:58
I worked at Apple from '82 to '85 and have exclusively bought PC's ever since.

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Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 07:02
The results of the poll are rather clear, it's a carnage:







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Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 10:07
Originally posted by CPicard

The results of the poll are rather clear, it's a carnage:







But I love my Mac.


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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: June 30 2013 at 23:57
The only money I ever gave Apple was US$20.00 to buy a ticket for US Festival '83-Heavy Metal Sunday....put on by The Woz.
 
Microsoft will always get my business....unless they go out of business.


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