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Topic: Favourite "Classical" Composers of Prog Fans?
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Subject: Favourite "Classical" Composers of Prog Fans?
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 15:03
It's been written time and time again that prog owes a debt of gratitude to many classical composers.  What would a Yesshow be without "The Firebird Suite" or King Crimson without "Mars" or ELP without "Pictures at an Exhibition"?  I want to discover what classical composers us prog fans hold in the highest regard based on their own merits.  

Please only vote for composers that you actually listen to outside of a prog bands interpretation of their work...in other words, don't vote for Holst because you love ELPowell's version of "Mars", vote for him because you love an orchestral or solo recording of his actual piece of music.

This is a multiple choice poll so vote for all your favourite classical composers.


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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 15:10
Franz Liszt for me, how could you forget him? Also missing, Rachmaninoff

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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 15:40
I voted other for: Arvo Part. "Tabula Rasa" is an incredible song, very intense, moving and ultimately peaceful and tranquil, with an overwhelming melancholy flavoring the whole piece. "Fatres" is another great song.

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Posted By: Green Shield Stamp
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 15:42
Ralph Vaughan Williams for me - especially the sublime 3rd symphony (a subtly beautiful elegy for the dead of World War I and a meditation on the sounds of peace.).  A shame he is not on the list!!

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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 16:20
Vaughan Williams and Sibelius; I couldn't choose.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 16:20
Bach, Chopin, Satie and for "Other," a great pianist, who died very young, by the name of Charles Tomlinson Griffes.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 16:44
Went with Bach, Chopin, Mussorgsky, Satie, Haydn, and my favourite composer Arnold Schoenberg.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 16:59
Cage, Stravinsky, Schoenberg, Reich, Varese

would probably be a legitimate top five for me.

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 17:08
Where is Mahler ? Unhappy


Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 17:17
1. Chopin
2. Grieg
3. Dvorak
4. Tchaikovsky
5. Verdi

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Posted By: HannesHolmqvist
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 17:20
 Instead of just naming all the composers I like, I'll just say Sibelius.


Posted By: VOTOMS
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 17:21
so many beautiful stuff
hmm favorite... maybe mussorgsky
but i gave the first vote to wagner


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 17:29
Bruckner
Berlioz
Richard Strauss

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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 17:48
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Where is Mahler ? Unhappy


Decomposing in a Grinzing cemetery.

I've always felt that the influence of Bach, Stravinsky and Bartok could be found in much Prog from the 70's.
Although that's still true for more contemporary Prog, I suspect the minimalists and the serialists to have a bigger impact?


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Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 18:05
Tchaikovsky

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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 18:24
Bach
Beethoven
Ravel
Debussy
Bartok


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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 18:27
Originally posted by ExittheLemming ExittheLemming wrote:

Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Where is Mahler ? Unhappy


Decomposing in a Grinzing cemetery.

I've always felt that the influence of Bach, Stravinsky and Bartok could be found in much Prog from the 70's.
Although that's still true for more contemporary Prog, I suspect the minimalists and the serialists to have a bigger impact?

I've always suspected albums like Henry Cow's "In Praise of Learning" were composed using serial techniques but I've never heard that for sure.  Certainly the serialists had a huge influence on Zappa.  He's said that he wrote "reams and reams" of the stuff.  Wiki Schoenberg's theory of 12 tone serial music...write some...record it in a freeware program like MuseScore and bang...instant Lumpy Gravy LOL




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Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 19:07
Debussy. 

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Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 19:10
Couperin and Rameau 

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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 19:30
Beethoven has been my favorite since childhood when I learned to play the Moonlight Serenade on piano. I also love the bombast of his symphonies.
Actually, all those classical composers speak to me just as much as the prog bands of my own generation do.
I'm just now listening to Franz Liszt's Hungarian Rhapsody. A wonderful piece of music.  


Posted By: Mr. Mustard
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 19:43
Man I could vote for most of this list, but of those listed:

1. Tchaikovsky
2. Beethoven
3. Mozart
4. Chopin
5. Mussorgsky

And not on the list: Debussy, Rachmaninoff, and Shostakovitch are some of my favorites.


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Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 20:14
Rachmaninov, but off this list I'll be generic and go Beethoven.

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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 20:25
Bach
Mozart
Beethoven
Vivaldi
Rachmaninoff


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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 20:46
Being an Avant head it has to be

Bartok
Stravinsky
Ligeti
Reich
Glass
Poulenc


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 21:21
Bach
Mozart
Beethoven
 Ralph Vaughn Wiliams


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Posted By: tarkus1980
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 22:03
Anybody who votes for John Williams should be ashamed of themselves.


My top 10:

Beethoven
Stravinsky
Bartok
Mozart
Shostakovich
Brahms
Tchaikovsky
Bach
Schubert
Chopin


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 22:15
Though Mozart and the Baroque era composers were my gateway into Classical music whilst in my 20s, I would say that my favorites are Ralph Vaughan Williams, Erik Satie, Steve Reich, Giacomo Puccini and any choral music from the Gregorian "chant" traditions and the early masters choral masters, like Tallis, Palestrina, Dufay, des Pres, Byrd, and Monteverdi. Still love Mozart--especially his piano concertos.

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Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 22:34
Too hard, but I've gotta go for the man in my avatar, Debussy. Behind him, Messiaen.


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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 23:17
My entire classical collection consists of one Bach, one Vivaldi, one Rachmaninoff, and one Bartok.

No vote!  Cry


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Posted By: Larree
Date Posted: June 14 2013 at 23:50
Karlheinz Stockhausen

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 00:50
So many greats here, but I am going to cast a vote for an other: Allan Hovaness.  Born in Armenia, raised in the United States, he composed atonal pieces in the 1920s, decided they had no soul, burned all his manuscripts and then developed an ethereal symphonic style based on traditional and liturgical Armenian rhythms and melodies.  Symphony #2, Mystic Mountain is absolutely gorgeous and features a double fugue while Prayer for Saint Gregory has a haunting use of trumpet.  Two others not on the list I am quite fond of are John Dowland and Hildegard von Bingen.

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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 01:05
Sergei Vasilievich Rachmaninoff

The guy can play the grand piano like none other. Also, he has the biggest hands you've ever seen!
He's a master. Not the best conductor, but certainly my favourite grand pianist

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 02:13
I vote for Stravinskij over Bach, but some of my fav are missing: Rimsky-Korsakov, Ligety and Orff just to say the first I have in mind

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Posted By: twseel
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 03:32
I haven't heard many of them, but I've heard the Matthäus Passion and some other pieces from famous classical composers and so far they have failed to amuse me. I did, however, like what I heard from Steve Reich, La Monte Young and John Cage. Still, my favorite would be a composer I was introduced to by my prog-loving aunt: Louis Andriessen.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 09:37
From the list, Varese (thanks to Frank Z), with honorable mention to Schoenberg.  Apart from the list, Stockhausen and Conlon Nancarrow.

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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 10:23
Thanks for reminding me. Next week I shall revive my recent series of composers polls, and make a poll featuring all those with the most votes.

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=92999

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Posted By: MonsterMagnet
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 10:50
Very interesting poll! though I'm not a specialist in classical, but I very like Stravinsky, Wagner and Scheonberg Smile


Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 12:15
I think prog fans will like Bruckner.  There is something about some of his
music that sounds later 20th Century, in some harmonic way.  He's got strong lyricism, also. 


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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 15:33
Originally posted by brainstormer brainstormer wrote:

I think prog fans will like Bruckner.  There is something about some of his
music that sounds later 20th Century, in some harmonic way.  He's got strong lyricism, also. 
Well said. He is my favorite composer, couldn't live without his music.

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Posted By: tarkus1980
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 16:49
Bruckner is fine, I just don't find him in the company of the elites. My issue with him is that while he has some great symphonies, he doesn't have a ton of elite smaller scale chamber works, and for me those are just as important in defining a great composer as are symphonies and concerti. I put a heavy emphasis on piano sonatas and string quartets and piano trios and the like.

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Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 18:08
Stravinsky from the list, plus an other; Olivier Messiaen. 

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 18:48
Ligeti really rocks !
 
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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 18:49
Ligeti really rocks !
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0abSzGuTFH8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0abSzGuTFH8


Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: June 15 2013 at 21:50
Stravinsky, though I would have voted for Varese and some others if I could vote for more than one.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 06:22
My classical collection is so small that I can only pick 4 composers

Dvorak (New World Symphony)
Mussorgsky (Pictures From An Exhibition as arranged by Ravel)
Elgar ( Variations)
Holst (Planets Suite)



Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 14:10
Maurice Ravel, especially Piano Concerto for the left hand.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 14:47
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Stravinsky, though I would have voted for Varese and some others if I could vote for more than one.

You can, it's a multi-choice poll!


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Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 16:36
Originally posted by Dr. Occulator Dr. Occulator wrote:

Maurice Ravel, especially Piano Concerto for the left hand.

Ravel's Prelude from "Le tombeau de Couperin"  I believe is the most "prog" classical piece.
Of course, versions may vary, but the one on youtube by Angela Hewitt is pretty close.
It's not as punctual in places.  I like it to state its themes more clearly with less pedal. 
Some versions are also played very fast or slower. 

Emerson was given advice as a youth to study Ravel (and Debussy?) if he wanted
to learn jazz, which he thought was bad advice.  But you can hear how progressive
rock modes can grow out of impressionistic works like this.   There are several French
composers loosely associated with Impressionism and they've all been interesting. 





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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 16:59

Mozart

Débussy

Bach




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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 17:06
Rachmoninoff :D

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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 21:06

Mmm, wonderful topic for a poll. My favorites, alphabetically:

Bartok

Beethoven

Chopin

Prokofiev (write-in)

Tchaikovsky



Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 16 2013 at 21:42
Originally posted by hellogoodbye hellogoodbye wrote:

Ligeti really rocks !
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0abSzGuTFH8" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0abSzGuTFH8


Indeed he does.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 17 2013 at 07:26
I'm not a big fan of classical music but Stravinsky is my choice for The Firebird Suite and The Rite of Spring. Holst would be my next choice for The Planets.

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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: June 17 2013 at 14:00
Ferenc Liszt, a genius and a master rebel

Liszt on on the list?LOL


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Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 01:36
I adore Gustav Mahler's symphonies and orchestral works with vocals (such as "Das Lied von der Erde"). From the list I'd choose J. S. Bach.



Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: June 18 2013 at 04:08
J.S. Bach
C. Debussy
I. Stravinsky
M. Ravel
R. Vaughn Williams
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