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Topic: Hearing prog in the same year that it's released
Posted By: paganinio
Subject: Hearing prog in the same year that it's released
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 07:26
Do you generally acquire and listen to a, say, 2008 prog rock album, in the year 2008?

I really fail to do this. I'm always discovering great prog albums about 8 or 9 years after their release.

Buying albums in the year that it's released, Pros:
Star If the band tour in your city, you'll know the songs and you'll have lots of fun being there seeing them live.
Star Ablility to make end-of-year lists.
Star The artists will be rewarded sooner rather than later.

Cons:

 Confused Without the PA charts, hundreds of ratings and dozens of reviews during the first year, you don't really know whether it's good, great, masterpiece, or just good.
Confused New albums are more expensive.
Confused People like me wait for the "Tour Edition", "Anniversary Edition", "CD+DVD Edition". We don't buy new albums. What's the Rush?
Confused Have been a fan of Band A for 10 years and haven't bought any album! Waiting for that Box Set that includes everything. Gonna buy that either way, so why bother buying individual albums?
Confused I need the Internet to tell me just which songs from this album are the must-hears. And then I buy the songs on iTunes, skipping the full album.


My verdict:
Approve No prog band ever plays in my city. I don't make end-of-year lists. I'd like to buy albums as soon as they're out, to support the bands, but my priority is to make sure everything in my collection is top quality. As a result, I almost never buy prog albums in the same year they're released. I usually wait for 5+ years.

And yeah, the most amazing thing about this, is that they don't sound dated or old after all this time. I finally heard The Incident for the first time a couple of weeks ago, and it ROCKS. CoolCoolCool It's so, so ,so worth the wait.


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 07:49
I don't have any kind of preference if that's what you're asking. I discover the music when I discover it and it's often the case obviously with older albums that I don't discover them until many years after their release.

In my teens I did hear all the Rush, Marillion, Hawkwind, It Bites, Yes and Genesis albums asd they were released (82 onward)

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 08:20
I rarely keep up with new releases.  I'm generally more interested in discovering obscurities from the past, prog or otherwise.  I think that since I've been a regular here, I've gotten more "hip" to the here and now, but my dominant focus is still on the past.  I think albums need some time to age.  I'm usually not the first guy to grab a new release and review it right away.  I've tried reviewing like that in the past, and those reviews have been mostly unsatisfying and not very good.


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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 09:30
I heard and bought all or most of the 'classic prog' when it came out between 69 and 80....but in the last 15 or 20 years I 'discovered'  many old and of course newer ones that I not heard of...some being obscure ones of course.
There were a few years in the 80's and early 90's where I didn't buy any prog for a while and mostly kept up with classic rock/pop bands. Then I met this guy locally who was really into prog from all over the world and he rekindled my interest.


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Posted By: pfloyd
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:20
there is only a handfull of modern prog bands i actually like, so i rarely buy albums when they first release. 

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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:41

I've only gotten 4 prog albums in their release years so far:

Frances the Mute by The Mars Volta

Octahedron by The Mars Volta

Viljans Oga by Anglagard

Shrine of New Generation Slaves by Riverside

So few I can actually remember each one vividly, but I'm sure that'll change thanks to how often I visit PA nowadays.



Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:47
I remember when Neurosis put out Through Silver in Blood. Every metal head I knew was going apefeces over it - including yours truly. 
Along with their 1992 album Souls at Zero, this album practically created the blueprint for post-metal. 

Thank ford for Ozzy's own Ozzfest though, because if it hadn't been for the live record cut that year with Neurosis playing Locust Star, I would never had bought TSiB. 


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:50
I buy a lot of stuff new and a lot of old stuff that I've not heard before as well.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 11:53
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

  I'm usually not the first guy to grab a new release and review it right away. 
How ironic then, that today I did just that. Embarrassed


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 12:01
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

  I'm usually not the first guy to grab a new release and review it right away. 
How ironic then, that today I did just that. Embarrassed


AAAARARARRRRRRGGHHHHH I WANT THIS ALBUM NOW!!!!!!!!! 

Fantastic review my friend - you almost had me dancing thereBig smile 
10 euros for an immediate download and a black vinyl sent to your home! It's so cheap, but I still can't buy itLOLOuchDead


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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 12:29
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

  I'm usually not the first guy to grab a new release and review it right away. 
How ironic then, that today I did just that. Embarrassed
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AAAARARARRRRRRGGHHHHH I WANT THIS ALBUM NOW!!!!!!!!! 

Fantastic review my friend - you almost had me dancing thereBig smile 
10 euros for an immediate download and a black vinyl sent to your home! It's so cheap, but I still can't buy itLOLOuchDead
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What, what, what is this? What did you review?

Anyway, nowadays I buy what I like a short while after it comes out, thanks to Spotify, and to a minor degree to the tube. In the 60s and 70s I didn't have the money to keep up. We tended to buy one album each and then tape record from each other.
Thanks to PA I've discovered so much old and new music it's becoming rather expensive. LOL


Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 13:37
It's a mix for me.  I got into prog around '74 so from then until around '80 I was buying them when they came out like clockwork.  It was exciting, you'd buy the new Genesis/Yes/Tull and knew a tour was always coming your way in a few months.  I didn't really buy much prog in the 80's.  In the early 90's prog CD reissues started coming and from then on it seems I'm always hunting for treasures from the past Wink

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 13:41
Probably about 50:50 as I have a big appetite for new prog although I'm still discovering music now that I ignored or didn't know about from years gone by. 

I suppose another question might be when did you last get excited about the thought of a new release and who would it be? I suppose for me that would have been Anglagard although probably its hard to get that excited at a certain ageTongue


Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 15:39
Depends on the band/artist. When my favorite bands release an album, 9 times out of 10 I'm buying it blindly. Others, I wait for other people's reactions and reviews. And then others I don't care to explore until one day I have nothing new to seek out, and finally I check out an album or band.

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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 15:53
If it's a band I really like, I'll pre-order it usually.  I'd say I generally listen to other new releases that look good by the next year.


Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 17:12
You missed the one big pro, you can be enjoying great music as soon as it's available rather than miss out on it for years.

I'm split about 50:50, I rediscover prog about 7 years ago and have been filling loads of gaps in my collection from the 70's & 80's while also keeping up on a lot on new artists, it's been help by a renaissance in modern avant/zeuhl in recent years.

In fact I have three new releases from Rhun, Red Masque & Not A Good Sign sitting on my sofa right now that arrived today. I have listened to extensive samples of all three so know what I was getting.

2013 releases bought so far this year - Guapo, NAGS, Rhun, Red Masque, Blue Cranes, São Paulo Underground, Sanguine Hum, Jaga Jazzist, Djam Kharet, Pat Metheny, Setna, Archestra, Five Storey Ensemble, Herd Of Instincts, Steve Wilson.

As far as I'm concerned not a bad one amongst them and a few classics.


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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 18:10
Quote Without the PA charts, hundreds of ratings and dozens of reviews during the first year, you don't really know whether it's good, great, masterpiece, or just good.

But you can form an opinion yourself, thank God.


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 21:39
For me the ideal thing would be to buy albums at the time of their release. However, there's so much earlier music that I still have to get that it's difficult to keep up.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 21:56
Unimportant, mostly (except for very fav bands). Often went to gigs without being familiar with the band/artist latest release, always found it interesting to hear music for the first time in concert.

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Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: June 20 2013 at 23:13
Only when I am following news from the band that I acquire and listen to their album after it is released, otherwise it will take more time.

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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 01:27
If I already am familiar with the band, I will typically by their new albums upon release. Otherwise I'll typically delve into the aged classics of a given artist.


Posted By: New2prog
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 03:18
I'm still trying to catch up on releases of  Prog in the 1970's.  It just doesn't make sense to me to buy new stuff when I don't even have all the classic prog albums.  I mean I still don't have every Crimson album or Gentle Giant album.. so until I do.. I won't be buying new prog.  I'm not a fan of metal guitar either.  I think Steve Howe used about as much sustain or distortion as I can handle.  I actually prefer cleaner players like John McLaughlin.


Posted By: mrtortoise
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 06:54
Unfortunately the only two prog albums that I purchased the year of their release were Yes 'Drama' and KC 'The Power to Believe'. PA is helping me learn about lots of great contemporary prog bands (and convenient acronyms!) so maybe that trend will be broken.


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 08:06
A good place  for those just starting to listen to both old and new are the lists on the home pages of the 100 greatest prog lp's.

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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 15:40
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

A good place  for those just statring to listen to both old and new are the lists on the home pages of the 100 greatest prog lp's.
I tend to use the lists here, Gnosis & RYM.


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Posted By: I-Juca Pirama
Date Posted: June 21 2013 at 16:38
The problem of it is the lack of uploads...Unhappy Where I live, the prog classics are already rare in stores, so new ones are even hard to find!


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 02:32
The first albums that I bought (Merlin by Kayak and Arc Of A Diver by Steve Winwood) were released in the same year.
When I became a fan of Genesis, Traffic and Yes, though, I started buying back catalogues.
I used to follow bands/artists like Genesis, Yes, IQ, Pendragon and Allan Holdsworth in the 1980's / 1990's, but I think more than 95% of the albums I bought were released much earlier. 
Nowadays I don't buy new albums at all anymore.


Posted By: Tess Herect
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 04:16
I'm quite new to Progressive Rock in general, so I've been mostly listening to the most renowned stuff from late 60's and early 70's to start off with.  The only new group (or artist, in this case) that I've become interested in is Steven Wilson, so The Raven that Refused to Sing (and Other Stories) is the only album I yet own which has been in it's year of release.  Hopefully once I get around to some other new acts I'll be getting some more...


Posted By: Ivbgutie
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 05:00
MAGG - BIRTH/REVIVAL

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Check it out!! ;DClapClapClap


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 05:05
When I was young (the 80's) I used to buy many albums right on release, even many I did not know in advance, it was enough that the record store guy or some friend or magazine would recommend it (or even simply by the artwork). Besides, I used to do most of my shopping at a store specialized in Prog so I discussed with the owner and I had always quite the safety of not making big mistakes.
Nowadays I still buy new releases by well known bands (Rush, Transatlantic etc) and maybe a few based on PA reception. Many albums gather a lot of reviews within the first 1 or 2 months so it's not like you have to wait 3 years in order to get a feel for what sort of music it is. 


Posted By: Ivbgutie
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 05:30
well, the album is online on itunes, amazon, rhapsody if you wish to have it, i would be pleased to give it to you the cd in your hands if one day our music take us to your country.


Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 05:46
Simple : Build a time machine. If there's a band you know that"s going to appear in say, 1969 like King Crimson, then set the controls for Early 1969 so you can experience all the hype leading up to it and just before it comes out you can wait in line to buy an original pressing abd then you can get to Hyde Park early so you can get a good vantage point to see them. But you would have to make sure not to talk to anybody because you might put a tear in the fabric of time. But I guess by purchasing the album you would have changed history. 

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 07:39
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

A good place  for those just statring to listen to both old and new are the lists on the home pages of the 100 greatest prog lp's.
I tend to use the lists here, Gnosis & RYM.
 
Yes..I was referring to PA's lists here ...should have made that clearer.
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For me if I were new to prog I'd be listening to and buying some of the early classics first to get a solid background for the styles....not to mention that most of the greatest ones made were from the 70's.


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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 16:56
Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

Do you generally acquire and listen to a, say, 2008 prog rock album, in the year 2008?

I really fail to do this. I'm always discovering great prog albums about 8 or 9 years after their release....
 
Now, with the incredible amount of media and internet and what not ... thre is no reason to "miss" anything ... you might get a better listen for it later ... but generally, if you liked it, our appreciation for it will hold.
 
It did all of us for 35 years ... why not now for you?
 
The idea that something sounds diferent, and ok now, but not ok for your ears at a diferent time, is a bit silly from my perspective. There isn't a single piece of music from then, that I have not heard, or appreciated, that I failed to enjoy or not give it a fair listen ... ohh excuse me ... there is one ... Kansas! Got tired of that radio play! I mean TIRED!
 
In general, ti is like saying that yesterday, I could not appreciate Mozart, but tomorrow I will ... in general, you tend to hold onto the tastes your whole life, because that "feeling" you had will ALWAS be true! It is a part of you! AND it has nothing to do with anything else.
 
Fo many years, in the LP world, many of these albums were not possible to get. In the import days, we got the new CAN album almost a year later ... I got Tago Mago 2 full years after it was released and way after "Ege Bamyasi" and many other albums by other bands due to the availability of these things ... and today... this is negligeable
 
In general, I recommend a good listen BEFORE everyone else does, so you can have your own opinion. While I would support PA, I would NEVER buy something strictly by someone's idea or choice ... THEY RE NOT ME, AND I'M NOT THEM ... so you give up your ability and right to choose? AND learn for yourself?
 
NEVER


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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 22 2013 at 22:04
Yes.

Total purchases so far this year: 74
Of these,
2013  - 28
2012  - 15
2011  -  3
2010  -  1
2000s - 12
1990s -  3
1980s -  6
1970s -  6

Here's my "this year" collection, with comments:

io - Our Disintegrating Museum
My second from them.

Riverside - Shrine of New Generation Slaves
Completing my collection.

Voivod - Target Earth
Haven't gotten one of theirs since 1993.

Coheed and Cambria - The Afterman: Descension
Continuing my collection.

Hanging Garden - At Every Door
My first from them (not prog); bought on a whim based on description of being a death/doom version of The Cure.  Don't really see it, but...

Cult Of Luna - Vertikal
My first from them.

Elephants of Scotland - Home Away From Home
Their debut album.

Herd of Instinct - Conjure
My first from them.

Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To Sing and other stories
Later completed my collection with purchase of Insurgentes.

Oblivion Sun - The High Places
Second; also have their debut.

Guapo - History of the Visitation
My first from them.

This Town Needs Guns - 13.0.0.0.0
My first from them.  (And perhaps my last...)

Spock's Beard - Brief Nocturnes and Dreamless Sleep
My first from them since 1999.

Klaus Schulze - Shadowlands
My second of his.

Jolly - The Audio Guide To Happiness (Disc Two Of Two)
Also have Part One.

How To Destroy Angels - Welcome Oblivion
Their first full-length.  (Features Trent Reznor.)

Disperse - Living Mirrors
My first from them.

Niacin - Krush
My second from them.

Djam Karet - The Trip
My collection is almost complete.

Soma White - Soma White
Their debut.

Vultress - Distance
Their debut full-length.

Scale The Summit - The Migration
My second from them.

Phlox - YWNTS
Have their debut full-length as download only; they also included their EP for free.

Nektar - Time Machine
Also have their "Best of".

Leprous - Coal
My first from them.  (Will be getting the rest!!)

Sigur Ros - Kveikur
Completing my collection.

Intronaut - Habitual Levitations (Instilling Words With Tones)
My first from them.

Sanguine Hum - The Weight Of The World
My first from them.



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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 23 2013 at 10:32
Well what makes it special, discovering a great prog album in the same year it was constructed is that, most likely the band will be on tour to promote and play the album live! That's the best. For instance, if I'd not discovered dream Theater would I be enjoying the anticipation of their new album coming out sept/24th? No. Of course not. Also, they will be on tour for the album as well.

All in all. Great prog is great prog and it really doesn't matter when you discover it just as long you have discovered it for yourself. The only thing, as i said earlier, you miss the hype and live concerts of the band which I feel can be a loss.
Also, one last thing, we all have to accept that some things were just out of our time range!
I mean, don't you think I'd have loved to see rush perform their 80's album classics
Permenant waves, moving pictures, signals and grace under pressure LIVE!
Sadly I'm only 32. Far too young. Marillion is another one (fish years.) boy...I would have enjoyed that.


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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 07:15
Oh I did no do hear a lot of prog music on its released date.
Genesis,Yes, ELP,Manning,Fish,Marillion,Rush, Tangent, PO90D,Rick Wakeman,Neal Morse, Dream Theater and Transatlatic.
PROGRESSIVE MUSIC ISCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolANDGeekGeek StarStarStarCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCoolCool


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 14:17
Originally posted by Vibrationbaby Vibrationbaby wrote:

Simple : Build a time machine. If there's a band you know that"s going to appear in say, 1969 like King Crimson, then set the controls for Early 1969 so you can experience all the hype leading up to it and just before it comes out you can wait in line to buy an original pressing abd then you can get to Hyde Park early so you can get a good vantage point to see them. But you would have to make sure not to talk to anybody because you might put a tear in the fabric of time. But I guess by purchasing the album you would have changed history. 


Well if that ship that is your avatar can take you 1969 I want in!!!!! Lol
Set the controls to the heart of......awesome!!

Also. I think I would have appreciated laser Floyd shows in the late 70's.
Just saying. :)

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Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 16:40
I try to get/hear stuff when it's new, but I guess I'm in the same boat as you, except that it's more like 1-1.5 years later, not 8-9.


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Posted By: Nick Dilley
Date Posted: June 24 2013 at 16:41
But I guess it depends on the band. If they're one of my favorites, I'll get it right away. Like the day it comes out. For bands I like, anywhere in between that and like a year or so after it's released seems normal for me. But for bands that aren't that big, I tend to discover them later (which is common, I think).

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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: June 25 2013 at 13:13
Honestly I think the only prog album I've listened to on its release was Clockwork Angels. At the moment I'm awaiting new stuff from three or so bands, so by the end of this year I'll hopefully have more albums I bought the year they were released.


Posted By: New2prog
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 04:45
I think it's more expensive to tour these days for bands than in the past?

Also, I think the younger kids in general are going to techno shows more than live music, so bands
don't do as well as they used to.

It's good that they can make their own records at home and not have to have big backing to make a great record.
A band today doesn't really need to press anything.  If they just upload it, their fans can download it for a fee that mostly goes to the band if they have their own website.


Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 08:13
I always seem to enjoy music more when it's from the past. It has an added mystique, being not-of-this-time. I'm also more easily disappointed if I rush out to buy something new, like I did with The Incident.


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: June 26 2013 at 10:33
Originally posted by New2prog New2prog wrote:

I think it's more expensive to tour these days for bands than in the past?

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It's good that they can make their own records at home and not have to have big backing to make a great record.
A band today doesn't really need to press anything.  If they just upload it, their fans can download it for a fee that mostly goes to the band if they have their own website.


First and foremost...welcome to PA!


Secondly. It's incredibly expensive to tour and contract, record company negotiations are just the pits!! Also, your right about a band Using the Internet to promote their albums cheaply and somewhat successfully.
Their are a lot of great tools in the age of computers to do so. An example is SoundCloud.
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Posted By: RockHound
Date Posted: July 02 2013 at 10:55
I always buy a lot of new and old releases, mainly prog, fusion, hard bop, and classical. As I get older, I find myself buying more and more recordings that were released before I was born (1960).


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 02 2013 at 14:00
I don't care whether or not I keep up with the new releases, and frankly, I just don't care for them. Keeping up is not important to me. So much good music out there from different times. I'd try to look for some truly original, fresh progressive stuff of today, and I would probably fail.

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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 03 2013 at 14:20
Originally posted by progbethyname progbethyname wrote:

Well what makes it special, discovering a great prog album in the same year it was constructed is that, most likely the band will be on tour to promote and play the album live! That's the best.
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Nice.
 
In my generation (that one is the same one, btw!), ot would only add credence to the time and place and arts of the time and place.
 
And this is something that you can see when you step away from it ... Woodstock doesn't makes sense today ... it wouldn't sell 1/10th the number of tickets today, and the interest would be marginal ... but the scene at the time, and the value associated with many of those bands, were too important. Thus you can see why/how, some of the things that we look at as "progressive", also seem more important than they might have been ... specially in a musical way ... when broken down and discussed, it comes off as ... same as anything else today or yesterday!
 
It could be me, but today's bands, when I look at Lolapablabla and other events, are too damn trivial and unimportant to make more sense of the time and place! But, yeah, I admit that it could be my seeing of it when you look at 50 years, instead of 5 or 10! But in "history" ... time has a way to disappear ... and let's step back 100 years and take a look, and now you know that your listening is SLANTED ... and heavily so, and that takes away its soul, strength, and sometimes, its beauty!


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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: July 03 2013 at 14:39
I check out reviews, listen to samples, etc. and then buy the album, regardless of whether it was made in 1972 or 3097. I still have yet to find the latter, but I assure you I'm looking.


Posted By: ShW1
Date Posted: July 30 2013 at 10:28
It's a great plesure to discover and listen to an album at the very same year it came out. However, for me, it rarely happen. As others, I returned to prog along with the 'information explosion' caused by the internet. So there are still many gaps to close, with records from last 20 years or so.


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: July 30 2013 at 10:45
Originally posted by ShW1 ShW1 wrote:

It's a great plesure to discover and listen to an album at the very same year it came out. However, for me, it rarely happen. As others, I returned to prog along with the 'information explosion' caused by the internet. So there are still many gaps to close, with records from last 20 years or so.


Yeah. Good point cause I tend to gravitate towards music that was a little out of my time.
Love a lot of 80's bands, so I dont have it happen for me very often as well.
And yes! Internet helps. ;)

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