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Topic: Astronomy or Paleontology
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Astronomy or Paleontology
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 04:22
do you like stars, planets, solar-systems, moons, galaxies, black holes, and supernovas

or do you like T-rex, sauropods, triceraptos. and other great dinosaurs


i am torn, i love both, i believe space is cool but i also find dinosaurs to be the most amazing creatures who have walked the earth, they rock my world and is more awesome then humans 


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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 05:44
a split decition, my favorite would be archaeology and early history

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 05:49
I'm quite interested in Astronomy, Paleontology too but less


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 05:52
the Land Before TIme is the first film i ever saw so, it had an effect on me

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 06:14
Astronomy, though I still like paleontology a bit.

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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 06:35
Archaeology on the Cosmic scale is much more interesting than practicing it on the Earthly. Astronomy all the way.

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 06:38
this is a great homage to Paleontology 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7QRFGSLMBs" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7QRFGSLMBs




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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 08:17
If yu like astronomy you have possibly already seen this

http://edition.cnn.com/2013/07/11/world/space-blue-planet/index.html?hpt=hp_t1" rel="nofollow - Hubble telescope discovers planet where it rains glass




Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 08:55
I have k

when will they make a telescope to look 65 million years back in time  Unhappy, or 100 million years back in time.

and is the ting they do in Jurassic Park possible or impossible or plausible 

interesting link  http://westerndigs.blogspot.no/2013/07/t-rex-tooth-found-in-dinosaurs-tail.html" rel="nofollow - http://westerndigs.blogspot.no/2013/07/t-rex-tooth-found-in-dinosaurs-tail.html


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 08:56
The Hubble telescope looks 65 million years, 100 million years, and more into the past. 

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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 08:59
i actually know that

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 09:32
Astronomy.....never had any interest in dinosaurs.
I do enjoy reading about very early civilizations like Sumeria, Egypt,  and possible lost civilizations.


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 11:01
Originally posted by aginor

I have k

when will they make a telescope to look 65 million years back in time  Unhappy, or 100 million years back in time.

Think about this: when you look at a star 65 million light-years away, you see it how it was 65 million years ago. Conversely, if you were on that star you would see the Earth how it was 65 million years ago.
Now, think that we go there and place a huge mirror orbiting the star and facing to the Earth. When you look again at the star, in the mirror you will see the Earth how it was 65 million years ago.

EDIT: sorry, you will see the Earth how it was 130 million years ago, the time it took for Earth's light to reach the mirror and back.

Now, of course for that to happen, even if we could place the mirror there tomorrow, it would only be our descendants 65 million years from now (edit: 130 million years) that would be able to see us now in the mirror Tongue maybe leaving them a video recording is cheaper than placing that mirror LOL

Originally posted by aginor

and is the ting they do in Jurassic Park possible or impossible or plausible 
First, finding such old DNA well enough preserved is basically impossible, but the theoretical principles behind the story are valid and currently DNA of endangered species is being kept so that in case of total extinction the species can be hopefully recovered by cloning.
Two considerations are: the DNA must be inserted on a parent animal and it seems clear that only genetically similar animals can develop the embryo in a viable way, so for example, an extinct sort of goat (the Pyrenean Ibex) whose DNA had been preserved was cloned using a normal goat as mother (although the calf died shortly), but we do not have any current species which could likely develop an embryo with dinosaur DNA. 
Secondly, one specimen DNA does not solve much, you need at least a male and a female's DNA if you want to recover the species, otherwise you will just clone one animal which will eventually die. And even with just one male and a female, it's doubtful that there would be enough genetic diversity to produce a viable lineage. It is highly likely that you need to have perfectly preserved DNA of a few males and a few females (and some similar species to act as first mother) to start anything like Jurassic Park.


Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 13:39
Paleoexobiology with some hints of astroarcheology.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 16 2013 at 22:08
Astronomy.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 00:58
Paleontology for me.  Astronomy's cool too but I like to see the bones LOL

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Posted By: Theremin77
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:27
Astronomy for me - I was lucky enough to spend 4 years studying it (well, Astrophysics strictly speaking) and considered it a career choice for a while!


Posted By: Eetu Pellonpää
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 12:37
Kind of feel interest for both, but lack wits due winnie-the-ppoh brains for understanding it all. I understood Peter Ward wrote on his "Life as we do not know it", that remains of early-earth bacteria and viruses might be found from moon due inter-planetoid material exchanges due asteroid/comet/etc collisions to earth more realiably, due lesser erosion on our solemn silver queen passing the nocturnal horizon.


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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 13:25
I like astronomy better k

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:10
It could be argued that Astronomy is the mother of all sciences.


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:42
That'd be an interesting argument.

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 15:13
Well, at least in the sense that Astronomy is a subject that has drawn many humans towards science. If you know Asimov's 'An Intelligent Man's Guide To Science' it starts by Astronomy, that must have a reason behind.


Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 15:26
so you don't think books about dinosaurs has had the same effect on kids, for making them put up spades
 and bucket and start  digging in the dirt and start carving for bones. the frist finding of t-rex spawned many to start their interest for sceince, like geology and archeology


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 15:50
Originally posted by Gerinski

Well, at least in the sense that Astronomy is a subject that has drawn many humans towards science. If you know Asimov's 'An Intelligent Man's Guide To Science' it starts by Astronomy, that must have a reason behind.


Oh I meant that genuinely. I don't agree. But I hadn't thought about it before, and I think a strong case could be made. Although, ultimately it would have to be either philosophy or math I think. Though the distinction between those two and astronomy in the nascence of the subjects is certainly thin.


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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 15:51
Originally posted by aginor

so you don't think books about dinosaurs has had the same effect on kids, for making them put up spades
 and bucket and start  digging in the dirt and start carving for bones. the frist finding of t-rex spawned many to start their interest for sceince, like geology and archeology


I'm sure it does. But looking up at night has also created many a scientist.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 16:05

hint: It's not philosophy.

 
 
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 16:23
Astronomy easily.

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Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 08:05
as Geology student I spent hours between fossils, as MSc Geologist not so much interested,but still prefer Earth


Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 10:43
I took an astronomy class last year to fulfill my science credits, and I loved it.  I like spending hours wikipedia-hopping around amazing discoveries in space too.  Dinosaurs are still pretty awesome though Tongue

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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: July 28 2013 at 12:19
Both.


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: July 28 2013 at 12:44
Sadly (?) now my thoughts turn to the stars. Big smile

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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: August 27 2013 at 03:26
Paleoastronomy- Wins because its both. If we can have a Sharknado, we can have a T-rexstronaut.




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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: September 15 2013 at 15:47
Actually, you could say most of the astronomy is a kind of celestial paleontology. A quasar called  ULAS JJ1120+0641 is said to be 13 billion light years away. Which means that this quasar may well have been extinct for 3 times longer than the Solar system has existed. 


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 15 2013 at 16:33
Ermm I think you may be confusing paleontology with geology. Paleontology is the study of ancient life, not objects. (Paleo = old, onto = being, ology = study).

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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: September 15 2013 at 19:59
Originally posted by Dean

Ermm I think you may be confusing paleontology with geology. Paleontology is the study of ancient life, not objects. (Paleo = old, onto = being, ology = study).

Were you also going to solemnly postulate that quasars are inanimate objects, thus not capable of extinction? 




 


Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 16 2013 at 01:27
Originally posted by Argonaught

Originally posted by Dean

Ermm I think you may be confusing paleontology with geology. Paleontology is the study of ancient life, not objects. (Paleo = old, onto = being, ology = study).

Were you also going to solemnly postulate that quasars are inanimate objects, thus not capable of extinction? 




 
I'm going to state they are not life.
 
Being animate and capable of extinction is not a definition of life. An automobile is an animate object capable of extinction, the remains of which in million years time would be the subject of archeology, not paleontology. A volcano is an animate object capable if extinction, in a million years time they would be the subject of geology, not paleontology. 


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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: September 16 2013 at 09:08
Agi you make the greatest polls
 
 
I write in vote oceanography


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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 16 2013 at 09:17
it can poll you apart supollstly

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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 16 2013 at 11:49
astrology or scientology? Tongue


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 16 2013 at 11:51
Originally posted by Gerinski

It could be argued that Astronomy is the mother of all sciences.
I see. Well, do you want to have just one argument, or were you thinking of taking a course?


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 21 2013 at 07:18
Astronomy. Could it be any less boring than paleontology?
Originally posted by Slartibartfast

astrology or scientology? Tongue
Sheesh, I'd pick a lot of things against scientology, and, as luck would have it, astrology is no exception.


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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 21 2013 at 11:25
I am actually really interested in Paleontology, but as a research Astrophysicist for my entire working life, I guess it's pretty obvious what I've got to vote for!

And Astrology and Scientology are both utter b******s IMO.


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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 21 2013 at 11:33
I did wonder why there were always so many st*rs in your posts. Ermm

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Posted By: I-Juca Pirama
Date Posted: January 26 2014 at 07:35
Although I suck on physics... "Astronomy... A star!"

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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: February 08 2014 at 20:34
Astronomy

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