the First Battle of Underrated Pioneers !
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Topic: the First Battle of Underrated Pioneers !
Posted By: trackstoni
Subject: the First Battle of Underrated Pioneers !
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 04:47
Well i Know they're all excellent Bands , but , Pioneers by there own Ways , all of them ( approximately !) where active during the seventies , and they're fairly Rated in Progarchives ! i mean their Albums . Anyway , this Poll is not to show who's the best among them , it's only my Way to Figure out from you Proggers , are some of these bands mentioned above deserves more credit than they took in 4 decades !! for instance , do you feel that , one way or another , some of these bands didn't get what they deserves !! explaining my idea this way , just to help you out ( i always though in the Early 70's , that Eloy & Pink Floyd are the same band , but it wasn't , Eloy used to have there own Blend & their own beauty . ) and the Difference between them was only the Label Company , much more activities around the Globe , the Floyds are British , but Eloy were German , using another language !! it Goes to Gong , Focus , Omega , Le Orme and a lot further more // you're allowed to choose more than one band , but Please , be accurate in your answers , i need to hear the Truth from You //
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 06:31
Le Orme, but there's nothing underrated about these bands.
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Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 07:14
Very tough choice between Le Orme, Amon Duul II, and Gong, but went with Le Orme.
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Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 07:32
Gong and Fruupp.
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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 08:14
Eloy-i remember it was only by accident that i even heard of the band (finding a lone used lp copy of Inside in 1989) Certainly deserve to be focused on more than they are.
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Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 08:19
It's not easy to pick one to be honest...le orme, can, omega and fruupp are tied..and the winner is Eloy !
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:01
Le Orme, Styx, Machiavel, Supertramp...
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:05
My interest in Le Orme was kindled earlier this year by La Maschera di Cera´s album+ I knew only the name of the band because it was mentioned on PA now and then. Stackridge is another band that deserves more appreciation.
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:11
I can tell you whom I like the most, but to ponder who is most underrated makes my head spin. What does that even mean?
Can is my favorite band here.
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:30
^Ditto on that Steve.
Underrated? Hmmm... I voted for Amon Düül ll - mostly because they today are my fave band out of this lot, but also because I find them rather under-appreciated on PA. I gather their brand of pseudo rock perhaps is too much for the symphonic velvet connoisseurs, who probably are the majority of folks I suspect. Conversely, CAN gets a lot more positive attention, but I gather it's down to the funky danceable grooves and enigmatic power of Damo.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 10:07
I can never vote on these polls, I like a lot of these bands equally. And I don't think they are considered underrated either.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 10:26
My vote has to go with Gong, followed by Eloy as a close second. And to echo some of the other comments, I'm not sure these could be defined as "underrated". Maybe less-remembered as we plow through the 21st century, but not underrated.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 11:00
Kansas > Soft Machine > Can
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 11:25
I think Can and Gong get plenty of credit among prog fans, so I voted Agitation Free even though I prefer the former two
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 12:47
Soft Machine
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:07
I'll take Kansas just over Styx and Supertramp.
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:17
I voted Eloy and Le Orme.
Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated".
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:37
Triceratopsoil wrote:
I think Can and Gong get plenty of credit among prog fans, so I voted Agitation Free even though I prefer the former two
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I'll go with this
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:45
The.Crimson.King wrote:
I voted Eloy and Le Orme.
Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated". |
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 15:13
trackstoni wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
I voted Eloy and Le Orme.
Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated". |
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Ummm...I did read your post several times and stand by my opinion. Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, & Soft Machine received worldwide acclaim, record distribution and credit and therefore can't be considered "underrated"
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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 15:25
Focus. I still think they're laughed at by a lot of people cuz they had a sense of humor ("Hocus Pocus," "Round Goes The Gossip," "I Need a Bathroom"), but their music knowledge, song structures and command of their instruments was so far beyond many, many of their contemporaries. I find myself playing more of 1970s Focus today than I do Yes or Genesis or King Crimson!
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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 02:24
All excellent bands and most of them are already highly rated so I did not vote for them. Stackridge and Fruupp deserve far more attention than they get so I voted for them. I gave Jonesy a vote too as they are a good band that I think almost no-one has heard of. Three votes is enough or I would have given Agitation Free a vote too.
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 08:50
GonG
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 10:36
Goblin.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 14:56
Who's overrated? Who's underrated? I don't know and honestly, I don't care. Going with my favorite from the list : Supertramp.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 22:46
Underrated....? Does anyone have the stats on which of these band have the lowest ratings here at PA..?
I like Jonesy and Agitation Free and they don't get mentioned all that much.
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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 07:48
The.Crimson.King wrote:
trackstoni wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
I voted Eloy and Le Orme.
Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated". |
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Ummm...I did read your post several times and stand by my opinion. Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, & Soft Machine received worldwide acclaim, record distribution and credit and therefore can't be considered "underrated"
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What i Precisely mean by Underrated is , Do you believe that , if they use to have another Label Companies , another Recordings Studios , different Locations to Promote their Releases , perhaps another Mentality to Promote their Albums , do you believe that , they can Reach what they really deserves !!!?
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Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 09:06
Can and Amon Duul 2 very underrated (they are not present in the top 100).
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 09:20
I voted GonG. Especialy because Shamal the album.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 11:19
^ That one and Gazuse are my favorites. I've never been a fan of Gong really but those are good fusion albums.
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 12:22
trackstoni wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
trackstoni wrote:
The.Crimson.King wrote:
I voted Eloy and Le Orme.
Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated". |
If you read my post again , you can reach certain levels to reconsider //
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Ummm...I did read your post several times and stand by my opinion. Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, & Soft Machine received worldwide acclaim, record distribution and credit and therefore can't be considered "underrated"
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What i Precisely mean by Underrated is , Do you believe that , if they use to have another Label Companies , another Recordings Studios , different Locations to Promote their Releases , perhaps another Mentality to Promote their Albums , do you believe that , they can Reach what they really deserves !!!? |
Got it...thanks for the clarification. Based on that, I'd add Gong to my original votes for Eloy and Le Orme
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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 12:29
I voted for Gong. Could've just as easily voted for Focus. It's really sad that Jade Warrior can't even make it onto an underrated pioneers poll. They're my real vote.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 01:52
Eloy because I love them but I would never call them 'pioneers' as such. In fact Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes sounds like a fantastic tribute album to Floyd and Tangerine Dream. They were never ashamed to take a winning formula and make it 'better'. Also production quality was the best if you like that big prog sound.
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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 01:56
Soft M. or Gong .........Soft M.
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Posted By: jacek1969
Date Posted: July 30 2013 at 02:43
Gong and The Soft Machine, if they are underrated.
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Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: July 30 2013 at 03:02
trackstoni wrote:
Well i Know they're all excellent Bands , but , Pioneers by there own Ways , all of them ( approximately !) where active during the seventies , and they're fairly Rated in Progarchives ! i mean their Albums . Anyway , this Poll is not to show who's the best among them , it's only my Way to Figure out from you Proggers , are some of these bands mentioned above deserves more credit than they took in 4 decades !!
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These are my choice of four bands I always felt should have received more credit due. True, all the bands mentioned in the Poll are great and I'm aware this can become a little subjective but my heart goes out to these.
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