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Topic: the First Battle of Underrated Pioneers !
Posted By: trackstoni
Subject: the First Battle of Underrated Pioneers !
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 04:47
    Well i Know they're all excellent Bands , but , Pioneers by there own Ways , all of them ( approximately !)  where active during the seventies , and they're fairly Rated in Progarchives !   i mean their Albums .  Anyway , this Poll is not to show who's the best among them , it's only my Way to Figure out from you Proggers , are some of these bands mentioned above deserves more credit than they took in 4 decades !!   for instance , do you feel that , one way or another , some of these bands didn't get what they deserves !!  explaining my idea this way , just  to help you out   (  i always though in the Early 70's , that Eloy & Pink Floyd are the same band , but it wasn't , Eloy used to have there own Blend & their own beauty . )  and the Difference between them was only the Label Company , much more activities around the Globe , the Floyds are British , but Eloy were German , using another language !!   it Goes to Gong , Focus , Omega , Le Orme and a lot further more //  you're allowed to choose more than one band , but Please , be accurate in your answers , i need to hear the Truth from You // 

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 06:31
Le Orme, but there's nothing underrated about these bands.

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Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 07:14
Very tough choice between Le Orme, Amon Duul II, and Gong, but went with Le Orme.


Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 07:32
Gong and Fruupp.

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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 08:14
Eloy-i remember it was only by accident that i even heard of the band (finding a lone used lp copy of Inside in 1989)
   Certainly deserve to be focused on more than they are.


Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 08:19

It's not easy to pick one to be honest...le orme, can, omega and fruupp are tied..and the winner is Eloy !



Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:01
Le Orme, Styx, Machiavel, Supertramp...

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:05
My interest in Le Orme was kindled earlier this year by La Maschera di Cera´s album+ I knew only the name of the band because it was mentioned on PA now and then. Stackridge is another band that deserves more appreciation.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:11
I can tell you whom I like the most, but to ponder who is most underrated makes my head spin. What does that even mean?

Can is my favorite band here.


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 09:30
^Ditto on that Steve. 

Underrated? Hmmm... I voted for Amon Düül ll - mostly because they today are my fave band out of this lot, but also because I find them rather under-appreciated on PA. I gather their brand of pseudo rock perhaps is too much for the symphonic velvet connoisseurs, who probably are the majority of folks I suspect.
Conversely, CAN gets a lot more positive attention, but I gather it's down to the funky danceable grooves and enigmatic power of Damo.


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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 10:07
I can never vote on these polls, I like a lot of these bands equally. And I don't think they are considered underrated either.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 10:26
My vote has to go with Gong, followed by Eloy as a close second.
And to echo some of the other comments, I'm not sure these could be defined as "underrated".
Maybe less-remembered as we plow through the 21st century, but not underrated.


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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 11:00
Kansas > Soft Machine > Can

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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 11:25
I think Can and Gong get plenty of credit among prog fans, so I voted Agitation Free even though I prefer the former two


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 12:47
Soft Machine

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:07
I'll take Kansas just over Styx and Supertramp.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:17
I voted Eloy and Le Orme.  

Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated".


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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:37
Originally posted by Triceratopsoil Triceratopsoil wrote:

I think Can and Gong get plenty of credit among prog fans, so I voted Agitation Free even though I prefer the former two

I'll go with this


Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 14:45
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

I voted Eloy and Le Orme.  

Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated".

   If you read my post again , you can reach certain levels to reconsider //



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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 15:13
Originally posted by trackstoni trackstoni wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

I voted Eloy and Le Orme.  

Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated".

   If you read my post again , you can reach certain levels to reconsider //


Ummm...I did read your post several times and stand by my opinion.  Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, & Soft Machine received worldwide acclaim, record distribution and credit and therefore can't be considered "underrated" Wink


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Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: July 18 2013 at 15:25
Focus. I still think they're laughed at by a lot of people cuz they had a sense of humor ("Hocus Pocus," "Round Goes The Gossip," "I Need a Bathroom"), but their music knowledge, song structures and command of their instruments was so far beyond many, many of their contemporaries. I find myself playing more of 1970s Focus today than I do Yes or Genesis or King Crimson!

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Posted By: ten years after
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 02:24
All excellent bands and most of them are already highly rated so I did not vote for them.

Stackridge and Fruupp deserve far more attention than they get so I voted for them. I gave Jonesy a vote too as they are a good band that I think almost no-one has heard of.

Three votes is enough or I would have given Agitation Free a vote too.


Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 08:50
GonG

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 10:36
Goblin.

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 14:56
Who's overrated? Who's underrated? I don't know and honestly, I don't care. Going with my favorite from the list : Supertramp.

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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: July 19 2013 at 22:46
Underrated....? Does anyone have the stats on which of these band have the lowest ratings here at PA..?
I like Jonesy and Agitation Free and they don't get mentioned all that much.

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Posted By: trackstoni
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 07:48
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by trackstoni trackstoni wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

I voted Eloy and Le Orme.  

Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated".

   If you read my post again , you can reach certain levels to reconsider //


Ummm...I did read your post several times and stand by my opinion.  Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, & Soft Machine received worldwide acclaim, record distribution and credit and therefore can't be considered "underrated" Wink

   What i Precisely mean by Underrated is , Do you believe that , if they use to have another Label Companies , another Recordings Studios , different Locations to Promote their Releases , perhaps another Mentality to Promote their Albums , do you believe that , they can Reach what they really deserves !!!?  Wink


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Posted By: frankbostick
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 09:06
Can and Amon Duul 2 very underrated (they are not present in the top 100).


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 09:20
I voted GonG. Especialy because Shamal the album.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 11:19
^ That one and Gazuse are my favorites. I've never been a fan of Gong really but those are good fusion albums. 

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 20 2013 at 12:22
Originally posted by trackstoni trackstoni wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by trackstoni trackstoni wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

I voted Eloy and Le Orme.  

Kind of an odd poll as several of these bands reached a worldwide fan base (Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, Soft Machine) and were readily available in mainstream record stores like Tower and The Wherehouse...as such I don't see how they could possibly be considered "underrated".

   If you read my post again , you can reach certain levels to reconsider //


Ummm...I did read your post several times and stand by my opinion.  Kansas, Styx, Supertramp, Focus, Kraftwerk, Gong, & Soft Machine received worldwide acclaim, record distribution and credit and therefore can't be considered "underrated" Wink

   What i Precisely mean by Underrated is , Do you believe that , if they use to have another Label Companies , another Recordings Studios , different Locations to Promote their Releases , perhaps another Mentality to Promote their Albums , do you believe that , they can Reach what they really deserves !!!?  Wink

Got it...thanks for the clarification.  Based on that, I'd add Gong to my original votes for Eloy and Le Orme Thumbs Up


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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: July 21 2013 at 12:29
I voted for Gong. Could've just as easily voted for Focus. It's really sad that Jade Warrior can't even make it onto an underrated pioneers poll. They're my real vote.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 01:52
Eloy because I love them but I would never call them 'pioneers' as such. In fact Silent Cries and Mighty Echoes sounds like a fantastic tribute album to Floyd and Tangerine Dream. They were never ashamed to take a winning formula and make it 'better'. Also production quality was the best if you like that big prog sound.


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 01:56
Soft M. or Gong .........Soft M.

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Posted By: jacek1969
Date Posted: July 30 2013 at 02:43
Gong and The Soft Machine, if they are underratedConfused. 

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Posted By: Rando
Date Posted: July 30 2013 at 03:02
Originally posted by trackstoni trackstoni wrote:

    Well i Know they're all excellent Bands , but , Pioneers by there own Ways , all of them ( approximately !)  where active during the seventies , and they're fairly Rated in Progarchives !   i mean their Albums .  Anyway , this Poll is not to show who's the best among them , it's only my Way to Figure out from you Proggers , are some of these bands mentioned above deserves more credit than they took in 4 decades !!   


Can
Goblin
Le Orme
New Trolls

These are my choice of four bands I always felt should have received more credit due. True, all the bands mentioned in the Poll are great and I'm aware this can become a little subjective but my heart goes out to these.

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