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Topic: 2 more under-appreciated Bassists
Posted By: presdoug
Subject: 2 more under-appreciated Bassists
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 07:49
    Both of these players are very under-rated, and not for want of talent or capability, most likely because their recorded output is very small, Helmut with two Triumvirat albums, session work on Jail's lone album, and his posthumously released solo album, and Mr. Stocker on the first two Eloy albums.
             I will not repeat my reverence for Helmut Koellen as a wonderful musician-singer-songwriter, just to say that he is my favorite musician, and always will be.
      Wolfgang Stocker is not far behind, though, with his great contributions to the early Eloy records.
                 Who do you prefer?

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"and what music unites, man should not take apart"--Helmut Koellen                               



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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 09:28
Wolfgang Stocker (Eloy)


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 10:31
Wolfgang Stocker

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 12:26
Koellen.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 12:38


Big smile


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Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 12:39
What about Ian Ellis? After his great work with 1-2-3 and Clouds, he was in bands with Pete Townshend, Steve Hackett, and Ric Lee, as well as being a member of Savoy Brown and many others. A true unsung hero.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 12:43
Eloy.

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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 15:55
Originally posted by DiamondDog

What about Ian Ellis? After his great work with 1-2-3 and Clouds, he was in bands with Pete Townshend, Steve Hackett, and Ric Lee, as well as being a member of Savoy Brown and many others. A true unsung hero.
I love him in Savoy Brown's "Savage Return". Maybe for a future poll.

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Posted By: DiamondDog
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 16:09
Thumbs Up well said


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 16:30
Klaus Peter - Matziol is probably my favourite bassist so can I vote for Stocker just because I like Eloy? I'll vote for Koellen because I prefer Illusions On A Double Dimple over what Eloy were doing at the time. I actually find it very hard to judge bassists ability wise and so I have to go with the music overall that I prefer.


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 16:40
Originally posted by richardh

Klaus Peter - Matziol is probably my favourite bassist so can I vote for Stocker just because I like Eloy? I'll vote for Koellen because I prefer Illusions On A Double Dimple over what Eloy were doing at the time. I actually find it very hard to judge bassists ability wise and so I have to go with the music overall that I prefer.
Hi, Richard-that's an interesting perspective, and thanks for voting Helmut.

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 18:54
The Eloy guy.

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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 19:26
Originally posted by HolyMoly

Big smile

Thanks, Steve, and Wanorak, too.

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: July 24 2013 at 20:28
Inside by Eloy and Illusion On A Double Dimple are two killer album but the bass playing by Helmut stands out for me more so that's my vote.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 25 2013 at 00:12
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm

Inside by Eloy and Illusion On A Double Dimple are two killer album but the bass playing by Helmut stands out for me more so that's my vote.
Tough choice - Hans Pape played 'most of the bass' on side 1 of 'Illusions on a Double Dimple', the bass on side 2 is nothing to be scoffed at, either - Stocker is excellent, though Luitjen Janssen is my fave Eloy bassist (Floating being my fave Eloy album) - Matze is outstanding as well.  Out of the 2, yeah, Koellen


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 25 2013 at 00:16
Originally posted by presdoug

Originally posted by DiamondDog

What about Ian Ellis? After his great work with 1-2-3 and Clouds, he was in bands with Pete Townshend, Steve Hackett, and Ric Lee, as well as being a member of Savoy Brown and many others. A true unsung hero.
I love him in Savoy Brown's "Savage Return". Maybe for a future poll.
That be the VDGG Aerosol bassist !!  Very cool sound and style.  I think he played in 'Jucy Lucy' as well.  Peter Hammill wrote the song 'Not For Keith' (PH7 - 1979) as an ode to Ellis. 


Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: July 25 2013 at 01:06
Wolfgang Stocker (Eloy)


Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: July 25 2013 at 03:48
Helmut Koellen is one of my favourite bass players.

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: July 25 2013 at 23:35
I like them both but voted for Helmut because he had to cover more ground in a 3 piece band.

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