New King Crimson box set - The Road To Red
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Topic: New King Crimson box set - The Road To Red
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Subject: New King Crimson box set - The Road To Red
Date Posted: August 02 2013 at 14:32
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Just got an exciting email from Discipline Global Mobile (RF's record label). There's a 24 disc box set on the horizon called "The Road to Red". According to the description, "every soundboard quality recording known to exist [between April and July 1974] is presented with audio fully restored all released on CD for the first time." There will be 16 concerts spread across 20 discs including 5 complete shows. A new stereo mix of Red (from RF and Steven Wilson). Also, a DVD, a couple Blue Ray discs, and an album sized booklet filled with cool stuff. If you're a fan of the Great Deceiver box set, this could be in your sweet spot!
And the price? $225. That works out to about $9.40/CD  They're accepting pre-orders now...you can read the details yourself here: http://store.nexternal.com/dgm/the-road-to-red-box-set-p1372.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://store.nexternal.com/dgm/the-road-to-red-box-set-p1372.aspx ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 02 2013 at 14:46
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Damn. That is extensive, beyond extensive. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 02 2013 at 14:47
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Too much for me, I've already got Great Deceiver, Brescia & Asbury, I don't think this is justifiable for me. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 02 2013 at 16:30
Well, I made it exactly 2 hours, 14 minutes, and 38 seconds before I pulled the trigger and ordered this. The remixed Red and multi mixes of USA should be fun, but it's the 20 CD's made up of 16 shows I've never heard, 5 of them complete performances that sealed my fate. I feel like the cat that just ate the canary!  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: August 02 2013 at 21:33
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Wow, 21 discs. $225. Oh, Lordy-Lordy. I must admit my Eno/Floyd/Beatles/Crimso listening days are probably over. Nonetheless, I'll look into it a bit more. |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 02 2013 at 21:44
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I think it's crazy to buy 20 discs of what's mostly the same material over and over, especially when great versions of that material is already available on several other albums
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Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: August 02 2013 at 22:32
This is purely for completist - fanboys. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
smartpatrol wrote:Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 00:27
I collected vinyl Crimson bootlegs in the 70's... Then I joined the King Crimson Collector's Club in the 90's... Now I bought The Road to Red... Guilty as charged
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 00:34
| I think I'll be holding off on this one |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 00:35
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If he'd only just sell his songs on i-tunes maybe he wouldn't have to put out these expensive fanboy box sets--- I know I'd be more likely to buy songs this way than to spring for 225 dollar package.
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 00:39
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Ooh! I can spend $200+ on another King Crimson re-release! I can't wait to- wait. No Steven Wilson? Deal-breaker. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 01:16
Steven Wilson and RF did the Red remix...guess you're all out of excuses  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 01:24
Thank goodness, I always feel guilty having money in my pocket that could easily be given to Fripp and Co. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 07:32
| Looks a fantastic package but I think I will need to hold off at that price especially in view of shipping costs as well to UK. |
Posted By: Shed
Date Posted: August 04 2013 at 08:20
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Hi, Burning Shed runs the official site/store for Panegyric, the label behind The Road To Red. We're UK based and have better rates to the UK and Europe. Here's the link to the Panegyric store: https://www.burningshed.com/store/panegyric/ There are also other releases just available on the label that may be of interest. The Steven Wilson mix of Close To The Edge (cd/blu-ray and cd/dvda) and the SW mix of XTC's Nonsuch (cd/blu-ray and cd/dvda). Additionally, there's a separate release of the SW/RF 2013 stereo mix of Red, a 40th Anniversary version of King Crimson's USA, and a new vinyl version of Larks' Tongues In Aspic. Regards, Burning Shed Info
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 05 2013 at 01:49
| ^ thanks for that |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 05 2013 at 19:47
| I too feel this is kind of excessive. I'm not really sure there's much more I can get from this era that is not included on the albums I already have, "The Great Deceiver" and "Collectible King Crimson Vol 1", having 6 CD's of live King Crimson from that era already. Perhaps if they chose the higlights and released is as a double album and a regular album price I would be interested in it. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 05 2013 at 20:05
There actually is a scaled back 2CD version available for pre-order too. http://store.nexternal.com/dgm/king-crimson---red-2-disc-version-p1373.aspx" rel="nofollow - http://store.nexternal.com/dgm/king-crimson---red-2-disc-version-p1373.aspx ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: TheGazzardian
Date Posted: August 05 2013 at 20:06
Doesn't seem to have much live music on it |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 05 2013 at 22:02
Oh, so this set is actually the remastered version of the Red album. However, while thinking of a highlights version of the album, I was thinking live albums. From this version you showed, what I would be rather interested would be the live Starless song, but I would need to hear it. The thing is, my very favourite version of Starless is a live one, but it is one particular version, the one on "Collectible King Crimson Vol 1, CD 1, which is the one that has the most powerful and satisfying ending, as well as the better structured second half of the song... however, the sound quality could be just a tiny bit better. It's great, though, but if I listen to it next to the version on the second CD of the same album, I can tell the difference of sound quality. I wonder how the one here works. |
Posted By: Shed
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 03:20
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The two cd version of Red can also be found on the Panegyric/DGMLive Europe store here: https://www.burningshed.com/store/panegyric/product/340/4998/ As for highlights of the box set, USA (the original live release from the tour The Road To Red is drawn from) has been given the deluxe 40th Anniversary treatment: https://www.burningshed.com/store/panegyric/product/340/4996/ This is a good concise representation of the power of the mid-1970s live Crimson.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 23:03
Oh yeah, but I already have the "Collectible King Crimson Vol 1", which includes two concerts, and one of them is the exact same concert from which USA was taken from, but without the overdubs and the edits (though I believe the newer versions of USA feature the complete songs without edits, but I understand the overdubs remain). So, I'm not really interested in getting that concert again. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 04:11
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I have 2 Crimson boxsets and never regretted it - 8 CDs of pure KC magic - but I may stick with the 2 disk version in this case. Very nice packaging though! ------------- 
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Posted By: freyacat
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 11:04
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The Great Deceiver box set changed my life. That summer, I listened to nothing else. The thing about live King Crimson from this period is that this band truly believed in improvisation, and was inventing a new voice for doing improvisation in rock. There is no way this new set could be excessive, because, I am sure if you listen to it, each night will have its own special character. ------------- sad creature nailed upon the coloured door of time |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 13 2013 at 11:28
Ya, I'd only even consider buying a set like this from King Crimson because of their dedication to improvisation. Not only will there be variations on each performance of the structured songs (Exiles, Easy Money, Talking Drum, Schizoid Man, etc), but we could also be treated to 16 or more new improvisations (along the lines of SaBB, Providence, Asbury Park, A Voyage to the Centre of the Cosmos, Is There Life Out There?, The Golden Walnut, etc) as I believe they did a completely improvised piece at least once every show on this tour. Should be a lot of great listening. ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: August 29 2013 at 15:49
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I just received an exciting email from Discipline Global Mobile providing a complete track listing of the upcoming "The Road to Red" box. They also include the date, city, source, and other details about each recording. After reading through the email, I wanted to pass along some info. First, some of the shows were already represented on "The Great Deceiver" box set, though additional songs from those shows will appear in the new box. As I already have "The Great Deceiver" there'll be some duplication, but the addition of unheard songs from those shows will more than make up for that. Second, some of the shows have been available as downloads from www.dgmlive.com, but once again, songs not previously available in those downloads will appear in the new box. I've never purchased any of those downloads so this will all be new material for me. Third, a couple fun stats. I counted 21 improv's in the setlists I've never even heard before. Also, 15 versions of my fave Crimso song Exiles that will be new listening for me  Here's a link for anyone interested to see the track list... http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=4305" rel="nofollow - http://www.dgmlive.com/news.htm?entry=4305 Is it mid October yet
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 27 2013 at 18:11
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Update: Inner Knot just ran the charge against my bank acct for my advance order of "The Road to Red". Could this mean that they're beginning to ship a couple weeks ahead of schedule? One can only hope ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Krodis
Date Posted: September 29 2013 at 06:07
| Why do I get the feeling that if someone ever invented a working time machine, Robert Fripp's first thought would be to use it to record old live concerts in order to make more archival releases? |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 29 2013 at 10:54
| I wish there were more and better sounding recordings of the original line-up. Though I guess the Epitaph albums I got are good enough, and got just about as much live music from that formation as I need. But if only the song "In the Wake of Poseidon" had been played and available by the original formation, that would just be killer. Of course, I have no Idea if it even existed before that line-up broke up... I guess not. |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: September 29 2013 at 10:57
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For some reason I think the Poseidon title track has never been played live. Not sure what I base this on. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: October 02 2013 at 09:50
An article just appeared at Inner Knot with a photo of the entire "Road to Red" box set. It's not just a collection of 24 CD's in fancy jewel cases...there's a lot more happening and I can hardly wait! Here's what it looks like: ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 03 2013 at 01:49
| This is my equivalent of GTA5 so I may just have to be errm ''sick'' for the day it arrives |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 14 2013 at 15:52
Well I've got and I will be 'off colour' for a few days |
Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: October 14 2013 at 16:20
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That should give us all some anxiety attack before it gets in our hands! ------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: November 08 2013 at 19:15
IT'S HERE!  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: November 09 2013 at 07:49
man thats one big road u got there XD ------------- Progrockdude |