The Hip-Hop Appreciation Thread
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Topic: The Hip-Hop Appreciation Thread
Posted By: The Pessimist
Subject: The Hip-Hop Appreciation Thread
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 20:29
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Hip-Hop has a bad rep, and with guys like Lil' Wayne and Jay Z around this is no wonder! Just my personal opinions of course... However, underneath the macho gangster chauvinistic bullsh*t there is a core of real musicality, impressive groove architecture and poetry, a lot of the time improvised. So here is a thread to celebrate all that great stuff. Here's a few gems of my own: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7x12edq49k" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7x12edq49k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A75MsdqU-jc" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A75MsdqU-jc (This one has Ron Carter on double bass, phenomenal album too) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-lRd7FzoLU" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-lRd7FzoLU (Seen these guys... Damn they have a tight band too, with Questlove on drums who also produces all the electronic grooves) Myself, I love the jazzier stuff. But there's plenty of other straight ahead stuff out there which is amazing too. Anyone else share my love for the genre? N.B. My embedding function is having a grump so I've resulted in hyperlinks, sorry! ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 20:33
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8agTBpemGo" rel="nofollow -
TECHNO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_czrpe-0mG0" rel="nofollow - ANIMALLLLLLLLLL
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 21:07
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Death Grips are great.
IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GOES IT GUILLOTINEEEEEEE YAAH -------------  |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 21:21
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5FB2WObnQQ" rel="nofollow - Nujabes is also great for more jazzy stuff. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 22:09
Oooh, no, not this.............
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 22:17
Would you like it if I posted this in every single prog thread I see? I don't understand why you can't just avoid a thread that you have no interest in as opposed to expressing your disinterest to everyone viewing. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow">
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Tom Ozric wrote:Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 22:40
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I love Wyclef Jean and Outkast.
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 23:32
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 03 2013 at 23:59
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Beastie Boys counts right? I really love them, they have a lot of music for anyone who likes rock or jazz and of course the singing itself is really good. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: August 04 2013 at 05:42
Oh God, I love this man... http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjqTiQhOgU8" rel="nofollow - http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjqTiQhOgU8 May he rest in peace ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 04 2013 at 11:38
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DJ Shadow has got some great stuff too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32X-ieCav-M" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32X-ieCav-M ------------- |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 04 2013 at 12:23
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^ that reminds me that I forgot about The Avalanches. They're usually more on the EDM side of things, but have a hip-hop edge. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 04 2013 at 13:44
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One of my favorite hip-hop artist is Metazen. His music is on bandcamp and he really brings brilliantly written lyrical content as well as sometimes some post-rocky guitar passages. http://metazen1.bandcamp.com/album/oh-great-sun-nourish-her-rotting-roots" rel="nofollow - http://metazen1.bandcamp.com/album/oh-great-sun-nourish-her-rotting-roots ^Ghost Dance of Cosmic Tongues is my favorite song by him. More straight-forward approach.. http://metazen1.bandcamp.com/album/the-conscious-cicatrix" rel="nofollow - http://metazen1.bandcamp.com/album/the-conscious-cicatrix Newest release - haven't listened too much but sounds more mechanical - http://metazen1.bandcamp.com/album/amelodia" rel="nofollow - http://metazen1.bandcamp.com/album/amelodia ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 04 2013 at 14:42
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Nas, and Outkast are my favorites¨ -------------  
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: August 05 2013 at 04:34
Keep 'em coming guys, some lovely suggestions so far 
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Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 08:41
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Just listening to this for the first time.. Woah ------------- |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 12:05
Love these guys :) ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 13:02
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Here's some Beastie Boys vids... |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 18:36
ikr, listen to his stuff as "Del Tha Funky Homosapein", it's really good too For me though, I haven't really explored too far past the classic hip-hop guys ie. Wu-Tang Clan, Tribe Called Quest, MF DOOM, Mos Def, and so on... At the moment, I don't really have the desire to explore the genre much more.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 18:46
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 19:31
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Kanye West is pushing the boundaries at the moment - some great stuff the late Nate Dogg Tupac Biggie sad all these 3 guys are gone ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 06 2013 at 19:35
Meh. The first half of Yeezus is good, but the second is terrible. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is a great album though. ------------- |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 07 2013 at 05:18
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Still no mention of MF DOOM? I've only heard Madvillainy but I like it and this guy is very interesting. I absolutely love the production of the album too (by Madlib). EDIT: also, this track may be interesting to prog lovers: ------------- |
Posted By: zeqexes
Date Posted: August 07 2013 at 06:08
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Here's a song from an album I've been enjoying lately. It's not completely hip-hop (more R&B), but this song is pretty hip-hop-ish. ------------- 
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: August 08 2013 at 12:30
If you like Madlib, check out his album with J Dilla called "Jaylib", or pretty much anything else he produces.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 08 2013 at 12:31
| My favorite collab of MF is with Danger Mouse. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: August 09 2013 at 05:08
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How about British award winning sax player/MC Soweto Kinch? ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 10:50
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I am mostly into the stuff that got produced in the 90s. Snoop, Dre, LL Cool J, Biggie, Nas, Mobb Deep, Cypress and all those cats. Then it's mostly Danish hip hop, which I won't bother you with. I love Wu Tang from the era though, and especially the sideprojects were extremely good: ODB: Raekwon: GZA: Gravediggaz: Cappadonna: I love the early Busta stuff as well. First two albums are sweet! Busta: ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 11:24
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I'm interested in this subject, even if it is just because I think drek like this is should be banned to asylums. So I'm going to post about it, welcome or not. It's awful. Horrible. Just can't stand it. I'm with Tom Ozric on this one. It's like a whack on the head. And as this is a public post, I don't see why anyone (Tom) should be blasted for expressing his opinion, even if it doesn't suit the OP. Especially as it's my opinion as well  |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 12:13
| ^ I remember you torpedoing the last Hip Hop thread too. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 12:15
Well this is the Hip Hop appreciation thread  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 12:51
| It's a pet peeve. |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 12:56
What don't you like about the genre? ------------- |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 13:01
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I'm gonna take a wild stab in the dark and say the omnipresent bassoons. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 13:23
| Isn't that racist? |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 13:32
I'm glad that you have the bravery to bash hip hop on a prog site. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 13:36
I might make a Nickelback appreciation thread and wait what the reaction is 
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 13:37
Awesome. Now go away. ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: npjnpj
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 13:42
| Ok |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 13:43
Dismissing the entire genre of hip-hop is the same as dismissing one band, Nickelback. Flawless logic. ------------- |
Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 14:39
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I don't really listen to any hip hop pretty much ever, but sometimes I run into something impressive. This is the latest such: The guy who played it for me is in PA under the name Anderson III, he's a fine rapper. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 14:48
Genesis sucks what now
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Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: August 10 2013 at 14:50
Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: August 11 2013 at 09:23
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My friends and I have been listening to these this summer: |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: August 11 2013 at 09:44
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I recomend the artist Musiq
also KRS-one have mighty lyrics one ofcthe best -------------
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: August 11 2013 at 14:02
I'll say what I've always said... If you think a whole genre is bad then you obviously aren't looking hard enough  Seriously though, opinions are cool. We can't all like everything. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 11 2013 at 18:38
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This was my introduction to MF Doom, and Ceelo does such a great job here. Real eerie yet funky. Great groove on that bass.
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 18 2013 at 23:08
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Lately I've been curious about getting into more hip-hop. So far, all I've gotten into is DJ Shadow, Nicoals Jaar, and a few other experimental, instrumental artists, along with a few classic songs from artists like The Furious Five and the Sugarhill Gang. I'd be open to any suggestions you have, but if I'd especially like if it was sorta interesting and different, musically. Something really distorted would be cool, too. Lyrically I'd like something abstract and/or surreal. ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: August 18 2013 at 23:23
------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 18 2013 at 23:30
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Classic wise, you need A Tribe Called Quest. MF Doom/Madvillian's Madvillainy is an album you need to hear. My favorite is Metazen though. I kind of gave up investigating the experimental hip-hop world though, i need to get back into it :S
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 18 2013 at 23:31
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Re: Cam Interesting. I'll have to check em out. Thanks ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 18 2013 at 23:32
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No problem Andrew. Here's Metzaen's bandcamp http://metazen1.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://metazen1.bandcamp.com/
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 18 2013 at 23:34
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same to Austin
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 21 2013 at 21:25
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smartpatrol, for abstract hip-hop: Cannibal Ox - The Cold Vein Company Flow - Fun Crusher Plus Dr. Octagon - Dr. Octagonecologyst MF Doom - Operation Doomsday (all on youtube) if you want to trace the roots check out Freestyle Fellowship - To Who It May Concern... instrumental wise DJ Q-Bert - Demolition Pumpkin Squeeze Musik is essential: for something similar to Sugarhill Gang: |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 21 2013 at 21:31
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thanks :) also, something i forgot to mention, the less egotism, the better ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow"> The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 21 2013 at 21:57
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I suggest cLOUDDEAD Ignore the silly video Also, have you heard dälek? also, unrelated: |
Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: August 21 2013 at 22:02
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danke apsalar and matt
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Posted By: AreYouHuman
Date Posted: August 21 2013 at 23:11
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Shouldn’t this be under Topics Not Related to Music?
Oh, relax, settle down, it’s just a joke.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: August 22 2013 at 00:20
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since this thread is active, a death grips just posted this. |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: August 23 2013 at 11:31
mah gawd you have made as sour as a whale in his first prom dance ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: frippism
Date Posted: August 23 2013 at 11:32
! ------------- There be dragons |
Posted By: Neelus
Date Posted: August 23 2013 at 12:19
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I will slip in some soul in this thread. Video insert not working, so ill do hyperlink https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-0JZlrk4xA" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-0JZlrk4xA ------------- 
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: August 23 2013 at 13:09
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^ How bout his cover of Smells Like Teen Spirit? Best version i've ever heard.
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: August 25 2013 at 07:58
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Another classic... ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Neelus
Date Posted: August 25 2013 at 09:00
Yes, fantastic cover, ends off that album fantastically. And it took balls to do that cover on that album, and it paid off nicely. Good post. -------------
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Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: September 11 2013 at 19:47
YESSSSSS I love that Dalek album. Just got into it very recently. |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: September 12 2013 at 17:50
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I've just started to listen to De La Soul's De La Soul is Dead (nearly 25 years after its release... Yeah, I took the time): some excellent tracks, but it confirms that I don't have the patience for a 60 minutes hip-hop LP. More contemporary, I also listened to Anti-Pop Consortium's Arrythmia (only ten years late this time...): instant hit for me. Even more contemporary, Ill Chemistry's first album (released last year), even if this duet explains being rather influenced by the hip-hop of late 80's/early 90's. Not bad, even if not all tracks are really strong. |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: September 14 2013 at 11:25
Wonderful album man. How about the album Labcabincalifornia by The Pharcyde? Check out this tasty little number: ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: October 18 2013 at 14:19
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 19 2013 at 06:25
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Love the old school feel of Jurassic 5..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAMy2wgwVh0" rel="nofollow - Jurassic 5 Concrete Schoolyard Also check out this guy; Roots Manuva (feating Chali 2na from Jurassic 5) This is very 'south London' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYCe9UFh1SI" rel="nofollow - Roots Manuva & Chali 2na - Joing the dots ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: October 19 2013 at 06:30
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I only recently got into Death Grips and only know Exmilitary, but this first track off it, is just insanely good: Turn this baby up to 11 and watch your room become bigger.
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Posted By: A Person
Date Posted: November 13 2013 at 16:40
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NEW DEATH GRIPS |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: November 13 2013 at 20:28
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Grooviest sh*t I've heard in a long time ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: November 13 2013 at 23:43
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Clouddead. Possibly the best trippy hip hop band out there.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnTSmInzdr0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuDHR2OY5h8 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NBQnckdN7I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZ9tXVAUVuY Doctor Flake is also top notch stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZVFIBzKV-k http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJRItrU93C0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Afy77x0sZY ------------- 
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: November 17 2013 at 05:24
KRS-One deserves some love. Hip Hop Consciousness  ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 28 2013 at 08:45
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Norways proudly presents Warlocks to the court of hip hop check this act David / GuldBams1 (gangstar you) -------------
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