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Topic: Best post PG Genesis studio album
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Subject: Best post PG Genesis studio album
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 19:05
I was initially going to only go up to Duke but figured since there is room why not include all the studio albums.



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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 19:08
Trick

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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 19:33
I rank Trick and Wuthering about equal but I'm going to go for Wuthering because I like "Blood on the Rooftops" more than any other post PG Genesis song...

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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 19:36
A Trick Of The Tail for me.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 21:03
Trick for certain.

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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 21:46
1.Genesis
2.Wind and Wuthering
3.Duke
4.Abacab
5.A Trick of the Tail



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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 22:17
I guess it would have been more interesting to do a post Hacket albums poll, because certainly both albums with Hackett are getting all the votes.


Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 22:21
A Trick of the Tail has a certain pleasant "spookiness" to it like no other album.



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Posted By: Iknowwhatilike
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 23:22
Wind & Wuthering


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 23:22
ATOTT followed by W&W, ATTWT, Abacab and Duke.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: September 24 2013 at 23:29
Wind and Wuthering all the Way.

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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 00:35
I finally voted in my own poll. Smile

I voted for ATOTT. It's my favorite Genesis album period.


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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 00:37
Originally posted by brainstormer

A Trick of the Tail has a certain pleasant "spookiness" to it like no other album.



Really? The only Genesis album that sounds spooky to me is Trespass.




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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 00:40
A Trick of the Tail


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 01:00
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller

Originally posted by brainstormer

A Trick of the Tail has a certain pleasant "spookiness" to it like no other album.



Really? The only Genesis album that sounds spooky to me is Trespass.


I agree Trespass has a real spooky feel to it, PG era though. It is a hard poll cos all their albums up to 1983 were excellent. It looks like ATTWT gets a bum rap, what an album especially as Hackett had departed


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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 01:38
A Trick of the Tail

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 02:49
Wind and Wuthering, followed by A Trick of the Tail. I prefer the SH era.

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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 04:06
Trick, then Wind.

Then Hackett left and it all went horribly wrong.


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 04:09
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm



A Trick Of The Tail for me.
For sure - and it was the first Genesis LP I bought way back in 1987, still love it to bits


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 04:09
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller

Originally posted by brainstormer

A Trick of the Tail has a certain pleasant "spookiness" to it like no other album.



Really? The only Genesis album that sounds spooky to me is Trespass.



That's a great way to describe the slightly "other-worldly" atmosphere of Trespass, which is nevertheless a brilliant album.


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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 04:38
None.


Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 07:10
Wind and Wuthering gets the vote, one of their best, full stop.

Trick, Duke and ATTWT are also excellent imho.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 08:21
Trick is more perfect--WandW suffers from Your own special way---and needed more guitar on One for the Vine--feel some of those lines could have been played on guitar rather than keys--but maybe Banks was trying to make a pointWink 


Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 08:27
None: I prefer the PG era
With that option open, not much more to say.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 08:28
I love em all except the last two.

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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 08:30
Originally posted by twosteves

Trick is more perfect--WandW suffers from Your own special way---


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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 09:07
I'm going to make it weird by being honest. In order:

1. Abacab
2. Duke
3. Trick
4. W&W


Posted By: TerLJack
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 09:27
Although I think that Trick of the Tail is a great representation of the Gabriel-era (although with Collins on vox), Duke was where they proved they could do their own thing without Peter.  It's Duke for me.


Posted By: freyacat
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 10:04
Here's my logic:

"A Trick of the Tail" and "Wind and Wuthering" are fantastic albums, and the most progressive of this list.

But "Duke" gets my vote for redefining the band in a still-progressive way. I love it for the way it shows how synthesizers can rock.

I feel sorry for "And Then There Were Three," however. This is an album which eloquently sums up for me the end of the progressive rock era. It gives us three excellent musicians, doing their best with a form whose time is running out. And it has some of the most compelling melodies of the Genesis canon. It deserves some votes, too!

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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 10:15
Originally posted by Dellinger

I guess it would have been more interesting to do a post Hacket albums poll, because certainly both albums with Hackett are getting all the votes.

You're right.   We already knew how this would turn out without even voting.


Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 10:52
Trick o' the Tail

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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 11:44
Some days I would go Wind and Wuthering, some days ABACAB.  Today is an ABACAB day.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 12:07
I gave Invisible Touch another listen a few days back, for the first time in many years. It's just as bad as I remember it.

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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 13:55
Originally posted by bloodnarfer

Originally posted by Dellinger

I guess it would have been more interesting to do a post Hacket albums poll, because certainly both albums with Hackett are getting all the votes.

You're right.   We already knew how this would turn out without even voting.



Initially I was going to make it so that you only had two choices: "trick" and "wind" but that would be even more boring than the way it is now.LOL


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Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 14:16
Originally posted by digdug

Originally posted by twosteves

Trick is more perfect--WandW suffers from Your own special way---


This

Agreed.  Though I still voted for W&W on the strength of "Blood on the Rooftops".  Besides, ATOTT has 2 songs I skip over (never was a fan of Squonk or the title track) whereas W&W only has 1 Wink


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Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 15:05
In order

Trick
ATTW3
W&W
Duke
Genesis

With Trick being my fav from all of Genesis.


Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 15:08
Originally posted by freyacat

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I feel sorry for "And Then There Were Three," however. This is an album which eloquently sums up for me the end of the progressive rock era. It gives us three excellent musicians, doing their best with a form whose time is running out. And it has some of the most compelling melodies of the Genesis canon. It deserves some votes, too!

I haven't voted yet, couldn't really decide, so I'll give my vote to this underdog.  It's got a couple of songs I don't care for, but several of the songs are among my favorite Genesis from any era.


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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 16:12
I dont particularly like any but I suppose I have to go with A Trick Of The Tail because it has the closest sound to the "classic" Genesis, with Steve Hackett still in there Stern Smile


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 19:10
Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm



A Trick Of The Tail for me.
For sure - and it was the first Genesis LP I bought way back in 1987, still love it to bits
 
It was the first Genesis album I had heard back around 1977 or '78. I was over at a friend's house when a mutual friend came over with it on vinyl and said we had to hear it.  The first Genesis album I ever bought was Duke.


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 22:02
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller


Originally posted by bloodnarfer


Originally posted by Dellinger

I guess it would have been more interesting to do a post Hacket albums poll, because certainly both albums with Hackett are getting all the votes.
You're right.   We already knew how this would turn out without even voting.
Initially I was going to make it so that you only had two choices: "trick" and "wind" but that would be even more boring than the way it is now.LOL


Who knows, perhaps it could have been to polls, one with trick and wind, and the other with the Collins led albums...


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 25 2013 at 22:59
Originally posted by The.Crimson.King

I rank Trick and Wuthering about equal but I'm going to go for Wuthering because I like "Blood on the Rooftops" more than any other post PG Genesis song...
 
That works for me.


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 26 2013 at 00:22
Originally posted by Mellotron Storm


Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm



A Trick Of The Tail for me.
For sure - and it was the first Genesis LP I bought way back in 1987, still love it to bits

 
It was the first Genesis album I had heard back around 1977 or '78. I was over at a friend's house when a mutual friend came over with it on vinyl and said we had to hear it.  The first Genesis album I ever bought was Duke.
'Duke' is a great album too !! Even 'Genesis' (1983) is pretty good I hear 'That's All' through the work radio sometimes which is cool - I also hear most tracks of 'Invisible Touch' (o.k. - not Brazilian, Domino or Tonight x3), and those flogged to death tracks just drive me nuts   


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 26 2013 at 01:34
I prefer the run of albums from Trick to Duke more than the run of PG albums. Lamb and SEBTP are not all that in my eyes while Nursery Chryme doesn't do much for me neither does Trespass bar The Knife. Foxtrot stands up thoughWink

Trick gets my vote , pretty much redefining prog and influencing the next generation of prog bands.. I love ATTWT even Snowbound. Don't mind the romantic themes that seems to send most prog fans running for the hills. Duke could have been the best of the bunch but fails on just a  few lame tracks that drags it down.W&W is a bit odd as it seems a step backwards after Trick to me with some last hurrah of old style symph prog. I don't think this album gels at all but its still a 4 star album.

After Duke, Genesis noticeably changed direction although there are some gems like Domino and The Brazilian to be enjoyed. Fading Lights is also a wonderful reminder of what Genesis at their best were capable of. 

then came Calling All StationsDead


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: September 26 2013 at 03:45
^ 'Fading Lights'


Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: September 26 2013 at 04:26
Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm


Originally posted by Tom Ozric

Originally posted by Mellotron Storm



A Trick Of The Tail for me.
For sure - and it was the first Genesis LP I bought way back in 1987, still love it to bits

 
It was the first Genesis album I had heard back around 1977 or '78. I was over at a friend's house when a mutual friend came over with it on vinyl and said we had to hear it.  The first Genesis album I ever bought was Duke.
'Duke' is a great album too !! Even 'Genesis' (1983) is pretty good I hear 'That's All' through the work radio sometimes which is cool - I also hear most tracks of 'Invisible Touch' (o.k. - not Brazilian, Domino or Tonight x3), and those flogged to death tracks just drive me nuts   

Great to see another " Genesis" Mama fanApprove Believe it or not I love Abacab as well, a real watershed album, the title track is incredible. IT was the downturn for me although I much preferred We Cant Dance. And CAS gets a bum rap, Ray Wilson is a great vocalist and I wish they gave him more license at the time. His more recent work (s) with Stiltskin/solo is not bad either.


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Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: September 26 2013 at 10:37
Trick wins this time... No contest here for me.

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Posted By: Tormo
Date Posted: September 26 2013 at 15:04
A trick of the tail!!


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: October 01 2013 at 22:29
A Trick of the Tail, followed by Wind and Wuthering. Many folks think Genesis went to hell after Peter Gabriel left; I, on the other hand, will steadfastly hold they kicked the bucket after Steve Hackett left.


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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 02 2013 at 01:33
And Then There Were Three for certain.
Intense, great compositions, powerful playing, fantastic lyrics, wonderful artwork on top of that.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 02 2013 at 01:35
Originally posted by Moogtron III

And Then There Were Three for certain.
Intense, great compositions, powerful playing, fantastic lyrics, wonderful artwork on top of that.

funny how this album divides opinion .(I agree with yours obviouslySmile)


Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 02 2013 at 02:18
Omg it's TRICK OF THE TAIL all the way.

It's actually my favourite Genesis album of all time. Their best for me!! ;)

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Posted By: snowsnow
Date Posted: October 02 2013 at 05:18
Wind and Wuthering - their last great one (IMHO)


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 02 2013 at 07:43
Originally posted by Moogtron III

And Then There Were Three for certain.
Intense, great compositions, powerful playing, fantastic lyrics, wonderful artwork on top of that.

much of what you say is true but it's missing a key ingredient to be great prog---Steve Hackett---replace his artistry with Rutherford's lumbering guitar work (and I love Mike as a bass player one of my favs) --you'd have a great album.IMO


Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 04 2013 at 23:48
A Trick of the Tail, although Wind & Wuthering is almost as good. I could almost vote for it for Blood on the Rooftops alone.


Posted By: iamathousandapples
Date Posted: October 05 2013 at 00:21
Wind and Wuthering, easily. Duke's prolly second

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 05 2013 at 03:36
Originally posted by HackettFan

A Trick of the Tail, although Wind & Wuthering is almost as good. I could almost vote for it for Blood on the Rooftops alone.

thats one of my favourite Genesis songs as well and possibly the last to feature Mellotron?!


Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: October 05 2013 at 08:46
And Then There Were Three, my favorite Genesis album next to Trespass.

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Posted By: deafmoon
Date Posted: October 05 2013 at 09:17
It's interesting how the more Phil influenced the songwriting the worse the material got. For me Trick. Wind and Three was a special Genesis period. Trick and Wind still had great Prog elements but were directionally pointing to the result of And Then There were Three.
Not so much cause Hackett moved on, but the Rutherford and Collins songwriting was taking over as Collins had his creative outlet with Brand X. With Duke and Abacab it felt more Banks and Collins influenced and after that they stayed with the pop formula and rarely strayed. I never saw Home By The Sea,  or Dominoe as true Genesis. Then when you hit No Son Of Mine  and Jesus he Knows Me. This was Collins pop. Now that I think back on it, it was Phil and that crap drum
machine that ruined it all. In fact, the only time they come close to what they were really capable of is in the song Fading Lights where Banks riffs out a bit underneath an awesome odd-time percolation from Collins backbeat groove. That for me was the last great moment from Genesis.


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Posted By: Codera the Great
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 01:14
A Trick of the Tail hands down. It still retains the charm and elegance that made the earlier albums with Gabriel so enjoyable and beloved by myself of course. 

Wind and Wuthering is good too with some strong highlights (One for the Vine, Eleventh Earl of Mar, Blood on the Rooftops) but it kind of seems like a slightly more lackluster replication of the previous album to me. 

As for the rest of the albums, there's bits and pieces of their later stuff that I really enjoy (songs like Home By The Sea and No Son of Mine stand out for me, and hell I even like In Too Deep), but i can't get into the albums as whole full-length experiences like with the previous classics. Although Duke is probably the best out of all the albums made after Steve Hackett left though, I definitely enjoy that one too.


Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: October 21 2013 at 02:53
W&W Hands Down Cool

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