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Still Life Or Blackwater Park?

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Topic: Still Life Or Blackwater Park?
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: Still Life Or Blackwater Park?
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 05:48
... and why? I just want to know because I don't really have time to listen to both. I've only ever heard part of Still Life which I didn't really like but I don't know if Blackwater Park is better for me (the heaviest album in my collection is Metropolis Pt. 2). If you can, please could you try to describe which bands you would probably listen to if you liked a certain album. Thanks!



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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 06:20
I like Still Life better, but I also like the very early albums a lot, so maby that wont be any help for you.
I like any album from Opeth a lot more than Metropolis pt 2. 


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 09:14
I voted Blackwater Park just for the slap bass part in the title track

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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

I like any album from Opeth a lot more than Metropolis pt 2. 


Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 09:34
The music is amazing on both, but Still Life takes it because of its narrative. Who isn't a sucker for a Shakespearean concept Prog Death Metal album?

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Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 15:22
Still life is more melodic and consistent, which appeals far more to me since I'm not a huge fan of death metal. Blackwater Park has some fantastic riffs and melodies, but it often goes on for far too long without anything happening. I feel that both the title track and The Funeral Portrait are just Opeth by numbers, without having any actually good riffs or melodies, whereas every song on Still Life has great parts. For every great moment on Blackwater Park, I can think of two on Still Life.

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 15:24
BWP


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 15:28
Two very good albums. Still Life gets the vote. Love the atmosphere of it.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 15:45
Idk, k.

I'll choose Still Life this time.

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Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 16:26
Still Life is my favourie Opeth album and one of my top Progmetal album too. BWP is amazing too but I like the atmosphere of SL more.


Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 19:37

They're both masterpieces, but Still Life still gets the edge by a wide margin. It's strong in every possible way, conceptually, musically, lyrically... I could go on and on.

However, I'm going to say the group's truly most accomplished album IMO is Ghost Reveries. Do not rule this critical achievement for music out, I'm basically begging you. It's a desert island album through and through.



Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 20:44
Voted for Still Life.

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

However, I'm going to say the group's truly most accomplished album IMO is Ghost Reveries. Do not rule this critical achievement for music out, I'm basically begging you. It's a desert island album through and through.
Ghost of Perdition is probably my favorite Opeth tune. Smile


Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 21:23
Originally posted by HemispheresOfXanadu HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:

Voted for Still Life.

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

However, I'm going to say the group's truly most accomplished album IMO is Ghost Reveries. Do not rule this critical achievement for music out, I'm basically begging you. It's a desert island album through and through.

Ghost of Perdition is probably my favorite Opeth tune. Smile

Ha mine too! Clap That whole album is full of flawless epics, though.

And Isolation Years... CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry Every dang time.



Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: October 29 2013 at 22:24
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Originally posted by HemispheresOfXanadu HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:

Voted for Still Life.

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

However, I'm going to say the group's truly most accomplished album IMO is Ghost Reveries. Do not rule this critical achievement for music out, I'm basically begging you. It's a desert island album through and through.

Ghost of Perdition is probably my favorite Opeth tune. Smile

And Isolation Years... CryCryCryCryCryCryCryCry Every dang time.

I read a YouTube comment a while ago wondering if Rosemary was the My Arms Your Hearse widow. That would be quite the twist if it were true!


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 07:21
Blackwater Park, one of my top 5 albums. Stil Life's great but it's badly mixed, very hard to hear the bass.

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 08:33
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Blackwater Park, one of my top 5 albums. Stil Life's great but it's badly mixed, very hard to hear the bass.

Did you hear the remastered version?  The improvement in sound quality is tremendous.  It actually helped me enjoy the album a lot more.


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 08:34


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 10:40
^ Thanks for that, Scott

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Blackwater Park, one of my top 5 albums. Stil Life's great but it's badly mixed, very hard to hear the bass.

Did you hear the remastered version?  The improvement in sound quality is tremendous.  It actually helped me enjoy the album a lot more.


I should get this


Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 13:28
^Definitely. I haven't heard the version before the remastering, but I can vouch for how balanced and complete the mix is after the apparent touch-ups. I also like the updated album cover much more too. One of my all time favorites, actually. It was the wallpaper on my phone for several months.


Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 14:16
Blackwater Park

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 14:20
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Blackwater Park, one of my top 5 albums. Stil Life's great but it's badly mixed, very hard to hear the bass.

Did you hear the remastered version?  The improvement in sound quality is tremendous.  It actually helped me enjoy the album a lot more.

Is that the 5.1 remix that came out a few years ago? I haven't heard it since there's no point in having two albums of the same thing, but if the stereo mix is improved as well I may consider getting it and passing on my current copy.


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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 30 2013 at 14:59
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

 
Is that the 5.1 remix that came out a few years ago? 

Yeah.  In 2008, as it turns out (I thought it was more recently).


Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 08:57
A bit shocked to see Still Life is that far ahead.  It's good but for me not a patch on the amazing Blackwater Park.  It's probably their best, though Deliverance and Ghost Reveries are right up there too.




Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 09:02
Blackwater Park for me.
Still Life is quite good, but I prefer the two albums it's sandwiched between.


Posted By: adace1
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 13:47
Blackwater Park for me, but I'm biased since that's the album that got me into the band.

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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: October 31 2013 at 20:27
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

 Still Life still gets the edge by a wide margin. It's strong in every possible way, conceptually, musically, lyrically...

Approve


Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 10:39
I think Still Life is an excellent album, but Blackwater Park is a masterpiece


Posted By: paganinio
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 00:55
Still Life's sheer riffage is unparalleled. Blackwater Park got no memorable riffs except for the title track.


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Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 01:43
Originally posted by paganinio paganinio wrote:

Still Life's sheer riffage is unparalleled. Blackwater Park got no memorable riffs except for the title track.

Although I agree with you, I actually think that the title track of BWP is easily the weakest. The first riff of Bleak is probably my favourite Opeth riff ever.

Actually no the final one in Face Of Melinda. Or the lead riff in The Moor. Or that epically brvtal one in SPD.

Yeah I really don't get how BWP is rated better than Still Life.


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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 02:36
It's funny to see just how divided opinions are about the tracks on BWP. I actually think the title track is the best on the album by far, but each song presents a memorable riff or passage.


Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 07:04
I like BWP park more because of how ridiculously well it uses the contrast of bleak, acoustic passages and awesome riffs.  I think there's more buildup and emotion in it.  And I think it's Akerfeldt's best vocal performance.


Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 14:56
still (pun not intended) can't into still life for some reason
gotta give it a spin later


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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 15:09
Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

It's funny to see just how divided opinions are about the tracks on BWP. I actually think the title track is the best on the album by far, but each song presents a memorable riff or passage.


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 04 2013 at 19:59
Man these albums are so close for me that I can't honestly take one over the other. One of those rare times when two albums are equal for me.

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 17:14
Originally posted by MFP MFP wrote:

Originally posted by Neo-Romantic Neo-Romantic wrote:

Still Life still gets the edge by a wide margin. It's strong in every possible way, conceptually, musically, lyrically...
Approve
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