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Topic: What hapened to Phideaux's Infernal
Posted By: spleenache
Subject: What hapened to Phideaux's Infernal
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 14:01

Earlier this year there was an announcement of Phideaux's new album Infernal. I have been waiting for it for almost a year but since the announcement there has been no new activity on that front at all. Does anyone know why there has been a delay of almost a year after the announcement.




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Posted By: Gully Foyle
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 17:09
Seconded!

I have been waiting with bated breath for the release of Infernal, and salivating over the supposed vinyl Great Leap/Doomsday/Infernal box set

I wrote Phideaux a while back, after the new website debuted, figuring this might be an omen of the new release, but heard nothing.

Hopefully this thread will bring the man himself out of the woodwork.



Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: November 02 2013 at 18:28
It's still in the works, according to his facebook page. He posted the currently finished lyrics a couple of weeks ago, so that suggests the album's nearly finished in terms of composition. But I have no idea how far through they are with recording.

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Posted By: Floyd Steely
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 10:32
This was a case where someone got waaaaaaay overeager about adding the album to PA. We really should hold off until the thing actually exists, don't you think?


Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 16:35
Yes wait until it has a release date at least.

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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: November 03 2013 at 18:28
So this album isn't even out, and yet it already has 9 ratings (7 five star, 2 three star). Honestly, this is nonsense. 


Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 04 2013 at 10:12
Yes how can an album that isn't even out yet have 9 ratings?


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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 04 2013 at 19:21
Really? You guys aren't aware of the fact that in this day and age an album can be "leaked?" 

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Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: November 04 2013 at 20:14
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller

Really? You guys aren't aware of the fact that in this day and age an album can be "leaked?" 

It hasn't leaked though. It hasn't even been finished.


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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 04 2013 at 20:16
I don't think the album has been leaked, because according to Phideaux's facebook account the album is in the recording process right now.

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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: November 04 2013 at 22:47
Plus, it wouldn't be the first time this has happened either...


Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 19:32
Probably not the last time as well.

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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 16:40
reported to Admins

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Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 16:44
Originally posted by aapatsos

reported to Admins

Good, although please allow rating when the album actually does leak. When the Raven leaked a shocking 6 weeks early, every single rating was being removed and it was just annoying.


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Posted By: johnobvious
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 17:26
From all I can tell, the guy is a perfectionist who feels the thing can always be tinkered with and improved and couple that with having a real job and you better not get your hopes up that it will be here soon.  Seems like an awesome guy with but one pretty significant character flaw.


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Posted By: Gallifrey
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 19:56
Originally posted by johnobvious

From all I can tell, the guy is a perfectionist who feels the thing can always be tinkered with and improved and couple that with having a real job and you better not get your hopes up that it will be here soon.  Seems like an awesome guy with but one pretty significant character flaw.

I don't mind this approach, but I always think it's a bad idea to announce things that far out. Tell people about an album when it's done, not while it's being completed, otherwise everyone gets impatient.


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Posted By: LakeGlade12
Date Posted: November 09 2013 at 07:59
^Or it builds up hype and makes people extra eager to get it the moment it comes out. At least, that's what it does to me!


Posted By: spleenache
Date Posted: November 09 2013 at 10:22

I see two issues.

1.     Phideaux should not have jumped the gun and announce the album such a long time before actually finishing it. Providing the album name, song list and the album cover prematurely leads to this kind of nonsense by some of our members.

2.       Those individuals who provided ratings for something that does not exist are simply distorting the purpose and function of our rating system. These ratings should be removed from the system. Hopefully Admin will respond to Aapatsoss notice and act on it.

 

I would like one or more of those individuals who have rated a non-existent album to respond to this thread and at least explain their perspective so that maybe we can understand what if anything we are missing.

 



Posted By: spleenache
Date Posted: November 09 2013 at 10:34

Interesting, Admin must have cleared the earlier ratings. If I recollect there were 9 ratings now it shows one rating. My guess is Admin cleared the ratings and someone else ( http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=41165" rel="nofollow -



Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: November 09 2013 at 10:49
^ yes they have and will act again if required - if you feel it should be removed, you can PM an Admin  Wink

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Posted By: progstarmac
Date Posted: December 24 2013 at 12:33
I gave 5 stars to the album because im sure it will be awesome ;-)


Posted By: progstarmac
Date Posted: December 24 2013 at 13:42
Do not be impatient, as a psychologist and future musical production engineer I can say that these projects take time. Cheers!


Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 24 2013 at 17:57
Did it burst into flames?

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Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: December 24 2013 at 18:13
Originally posted by progstarmac

I gave 5 stars to the album because im sure it will be awesome ;-)

Total nonsence Angry


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Posted By: mon40
Date Posted: December 29 2013 at 18:03
Its coming. I saw his last show in the UK. He promised the others in the band he would release that before his next live gig. Be on the lookout for a release party too.


Posted By: Gully Foyle
Date Posted: February 19 2014 at 14:55
Thought i'd kick this back up...anyone out there know anything, hear any word on this?


Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: February 19 2014 at 15:24
Originally posted by progstarmac

I gave 5 stars to the album because im sure it will be awesome ;-)
Jumping the gun a bit with the ratings, don't you think? Wink
Originally posted by progstarmac

Do not be impatient


Posted By: Floyd Steely
Date Posted: February 19 2014 at 17:08
Originally posted by Gully Foyle

Thought i'd kick this back up...anyone out there know anything, hear any word on this?


Yes. Phideaux stated on his FB page that his first priority is reissuing The Great Leap and Doomsday Afternoon on CD and LP. Both albums are being remixed, and Leap is getting a couple songs added to it. The new album will follow, though I don't believe he offered a timetable for any of this.

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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 19 2014 at 18:11
Originally posted by Floyd Steely

Originally posted by Gully Foyle

Thought i'd kick this back up...anyone out there know anything, hear any word on this?


Yes. Phideaux stated on his FB page that his first priority is reissuing The Great Leap and Doomsday Afternoon on CD and LP. Both albums are being remixed, and Leap is getting a couple songs added to it. The new album will follow, though I don't believe he offered a timetable for any of this.

I saw that too. He seems to be consumed by the remixing right now.


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Posted By: Gully Foyle
Date Posted: February 19 2014 at 18:43
thanks for the info, as a facebook non-user, i would never have known

while i am going to be mighty glad to pick up doomsday on CD and LP, it makes me wonder if Infernal is really not up to snuff, and hes avoiding issuing it....

hmmm


Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: May 27 2014 at 17:17
still no news?

Originally posted by Gully Foyle

...it makes me wonder if Infernal is really not up to snuff, and hes avoiding issuing it....

hmmm


maybe its just like that.. i will forgive him Wink but im still curious


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Posted By: mon40
Date Posted: May 29 2014 at 12:45
What he told me at RoSfest is that the day job was taking most of his time for a while. I think you will see a lot of stuff coming out.

The Album is the third part of a trilogy. So he wants to have the re-mastered Great leap and Doomsday all coming out simultaneously.

I do know that Gabe and him are working hard on getting everything out.

I don't think its a quality problem I think its more work/life balance and the fact it is now a double album.

There is also two mogon albums in the works and Live at Orion.

He will be playing at my house in August along with Guy Manning, so I'll have another update for you then.

If you check out my Music in Widescreen podcast I update listeners as I get more information.

Mark Mon40
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Posted By: Mind_Drive
Date Posted: May 29 2014 at 14:11
thanks for the info!

sounds like a great party at your house Wink

and thanks for future updates!


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Posted By: LiquidEternity
Date Posted: June 01 2014 at 12:18
Number 7 is five years old already. Jeez. Still remains a top favorite of mine, and not just among his catalog.

I keep checking in here for all the updates, thin as they may be. Day jobs and stuff can really knock the pace out of production like that, I do know (ha, look at my reviews... when was the last time I got one done?). Wish him all the best of luck and also can he please release the twenty seven albums he's currently sitting on? :P


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Posted By: Argor
Date Posted: June 29 2014 at 06:35
Infernal was announced two years ago and Xavier writes only about Rik Mayall's death on his facebook page ;_; That's so sad i keep checking everything at least one time a week since two years and still no news about this album...



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