What prog bands do "hipsters" like?
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Topic: What prog bands do "hipsters" like?
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Subject: What prog bands do "hipsters" like?
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 11:31
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I'm sure most of you know what a hipster is. Usually they are known for liking indie bands. I'm wondering what prog bands they like though so if any of you consider yourself a hipster I'd be curious as to what you listen to. I'd guess that any retro prog is out and probably most symph prog. I'd guess that experimental stuff or Krautrock is safe for them though.Also, post rock is probably a pretty safe bet too. |
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 11:39
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I have never met any hipsters that like prog in general... or know what
it is. I've met couple that like post-rock and those sorts of things.
I've been to the dear hunter and circa survive concerts full of hipsters. Not sure
what a particular band has to do to attract them. Austin is full of hipsters and not a prog band in sight.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 11:44
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The Mars Volta. Though I hate the term hipster..
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Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 11:49
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I can only think of post rock bands. Giraffes? Giraffes! comes to mind first. ...And Steven Wilson's lyrics, though I'm not aware of hipsters that listen to Porcupine Tree or his solo stuff.
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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 11:50
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I only know one person who considers himself a hipster, but he's 47, so he grew up on the likes of Pink Floyd. I don't really know though. |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 11:53
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"hipsters" please just delete this thread -------------  |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 12:11
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Whatever is the new thing ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 12:19
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Earthmover wrote:Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 12:27
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If it's the right people I'm thinking of "those types" usually prefer Krautrock over Anglo-Saxon prog, Syd Barrett-fronted Pink Floyd over Roger Waters-fronted Pink Floyd, Captain Beefheart over Frank Zappa, the Canterbury scene over other British bands etcetera. Basically, think of the Goldilocks zone between "too popular to be underground" and "too obscure to be mainstream" and you should be right on track. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: akamaisondufromage
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 12:30
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Maybe they like Post-Rock or Math-Rock as I have no idea what the hell they be.. ------------- Help me I'm falling! |
Posted By: mongofa
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 12:32
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Radiohead is the best band ever to exist, you people just don't understand them. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 12:36
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...anything that's released on vinyl (or, cassette, tape, wax cylinder or sheet music)? I suspect that in a very short space of time digital hardcopy media such as CD, MiniDisc and DAT will be added to that list, if it hasn't already. Coincidentally, I powered-up my portable Kenwood CD-player yesterday to play a disc I hadn't bothered to transfer to mp3, even that seemed to be retro and hipsterish.
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Being old, and somewhat out of the loop, I actually had to look this up to see what it was in the modern parlance, to me a hipster is a more archaic term that I could apply to any group of "alt" people. But even after reading Wikipedia on the subject it seems to me that most prog fans are borderline hipsters in attitude if not life-style or dress-sense - (erudite, knowledgeable and rejecting of modern mores), perhaps the only real difference is the not wanting to belong to the current social definition, which being self-referential makes it somewhat hipster, or at least close neighbours... ------------- What? |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 12:43
Sometimes I have a bad feeling that I am a hipster.
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Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 12:51
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many hipsters like prog, generally the more modern, folk or alternative influenced styles. They seem to be the ones responsible for making prog (relatively) popular again. Prog bands hipsters generally like in Murfreesboro/Nashville: The Decemberists The Mars Volta The Dear Hunter Godspeed You! Black Emperor Sigur Ros Between The Buried and Me Steven Wilson and PT Isis King Crimson Mr. Bungle Radiohead |
Posted By: Ethelred7
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 13:16
| Don't you forget the Muse right beside Radiohead |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 13:21
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They're neither indie nor prog. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Ethelred7
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 13:25
| They became pop nowadays. |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 13:32
they're not really that similar though and Muse is generally more hated in "hipster" circles ------------- |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 13:59
Well I could.  Why though? You don't like the term hipster or do you just not like their pretentious attitude? |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 14:02
You know, that sounds about right. I think you hit the nail on the head there without going too far into indie or post rock territory and sticking with prog. Good job!  |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 14:12
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 14:47
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The Boredoms too, due to the high "weird Japanese stuff" factor and the fact that you get to listen to heavy guitar music without having to associate with so-called white trash.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 15:03
Well, actually, you can't. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 15:08
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There are about 10000 types of hipster I am only using this term because you are bringing it up, because I think no one really understands what it means so it's now used as an insult... even though hipsters have been around since the 1920s. The pre- Jack Keuroacs (sp)? My next door neighbor in NYC is one of the most hipster dudes that I know, and there are multiple 'art houses' with groups of hipster people. Most of them like all the music that hipster girls like usually. I would have thought they would all hate the party music they listen to. But, they are all cool people open to most types of music to be honest. I have no problem with "hipstertype" people. I get along with all those groups pretty well though and like within all social groups, there are usually a few people that are awesome people no matter what people they identify with. Now I know some people that I would actually consider them to be a "hipster stereotype." Those people HATE HATE prog rock because most of them are late 20's to early 30's. I couldn't play Mr. Bungle for those people without them wanting to kill me. Some of these dudes are actually artists for a living so I'm pretty sure they fit the definition better than most people. Some of them can't stand my band, as our music is too different and they actually tell me they want to hear a specific genre... which is silly to me because you would think hipsters would love stuff like Estradasphere. Basically no one knows what this means and my post has no meaning anyway. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 15:13
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My 18-year old daughter can be properly called a hipster, but she is not very much into prog. She does not have obvious long time faves like her old man. Of the bands she has listened to, the closest to prog are The Beatles (she mentioned them a few times diring the last years) and Muse. ------------- 
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 15:13
OK fine. It doesn't matter to me anyway. The term hipster isn't really important. It's just a name. The idea was to find out what kind of prog(if any) a certain subculture is interested in. I could have just as easily asked what kind of prog do hippies or deadheads like.  |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 15:22
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^I know these hippies that I call my Death Metal Hippies. They are awesome. They got me into Blotted Science and Between the Buried and Me and all sorts of stuff!
But they are also Deadheads. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: WeepingElf
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 15:52
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Some hipsters listen to music they call "prog rock" or "prog metal" - but that is a different meaning of the term. It happened in the 1990s when alternative rock journalists sought a term for music of bands such as Tool and their ilk, they realized how this kind of music was similar to what in electronic music circles was called "progressive", and used this adjective to name the music they were looking for a designation for (which does not mean that this alternative "progressive rock" descends from progressive electronic music - it is only similar in texture). They may have even been utterly unaware of the previous existence of the term "progressive rock". So now there are two unrelated music genres going by the name "progressive rock", one that is considered outré (if they know about it at all) among hipsters - the one we are usually talking about here, and has borne this label since the late 1960s - and one that some hipsters subscribe to. It is hard to say that hipsters and alternative rock journalists are "wrong" about using that term - words in languages always mean what they are used for. It is just that this word has two meanings in two contexts, which sometimes can be confusing. I have had conversations where we talked past each other and found out after a few minutes talking about "progressive rock", that there was not a single band we were both into! ------------- ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf "What does Elvish rock music sound like?" - "Yes." |
Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 16:29
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^Ok so Tool isn't prog rock? I'm pretty sure they are heavily influenced by King Crimson. Sure they have their alternative rock moments but Lateralus is definitely a progressive rock album. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: desistindo
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 17:52
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 17:58
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 18:27
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 19:29
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Hooray I am not a hipster, because I like Symphonic Prog.
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 22:35
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 22:42
That looks fairly accurate. I'd add Muse and Black Mountain and maybe even Maserati. Zombi also gained quite a few fans when they toured heavily for a couple years in the mid-2000s. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: iamathousandapples
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 22:57
No one does, it can mean anything you want it to be. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/thamazingbender" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 05 2013 at 23:04
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IQ, Pallas, Pendragon and Marillion, of course. ------------- |
Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 01:14
I'm almost ashamed to admit I clicked the again button about a dozen times before I could look away from that |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 08:33
This is good list---plus Kraftwerk and Primus--and not just KC anything with Bill Bruford including Yes stuff.
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 08:47
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A hippie? Well it's usually a lot of new age music that grabs their attention. Or Psychedelic Rock is up there. Lots of hippies in my experience love DEAD CAN DANCE and OZRIC TENTACLES. on the more electronic side. APHEX TWIN is quite popular. And of course...not Prog but ENYA really is synonymous with the 'hippie' trend.  ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 08:54
 Great link------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: WeepingElf
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 09:43
Indeed, I don't consider Tool progressive rock, though I concede that there are some similarities - but these do not reach much further than the length of the pieces and the often complex rhythms. Otherwise, Tool is very different. There is no rich, changeful dramaturgy, only an ostinato onto which more and more layers are laid, providing a texture that thickens toward the end of the piece. Also, I find nothing of the progressive mind set characteristic of progressive rock; rather, the mind set is dark, nihilistic and cynical. The music of Tool is much more akin to post-industrial and noise rock than to progressive rock, and it tells a lot that rightist "neofolk" and industrial bands such as Current 93 or Sol Invictus have adopted this style in some of their works, while right-wing progressive rock appears to be non-existent. (Not that Keenan himself was a rightist; I see no evidence for that.) ------------- ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf "What does Elvish rock music sound like?" - "Yes." |
Posted By: Tempel
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 12:08
| Hipsters dig Brian Eno, Kraftwerk, Can, King Crimsons Red, and a few others. Pitchfork.com is the holy grail for hipsters in terms of what music they are supposed to like, and that site gives props to the above mentioned as well as Amon Duul II, Robert Wyatt, and Magma. They have rated albums by all these bands very high. Even yes's Close To The Edge garnered a 9 out of ten rating on that site. Check out there top 100 albums of the 70's and you will see some surprises. I have been accused of being a hipster so you can trust me :-) |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 12:26
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 12:40
------------- What? |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 12:55
Hippie? Noway. It makes you an Audio traditionalist.  ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 13:10
This one made me laugh... HER TIME SPENT BUNKERED DOWN IN THE STUDIO HAS ULTIMATELY CULMINATED IN... AN OXIDISED DOSE OF GLORIOUSLY BEATIFIC GUTTER - METAL. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: pianoman
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 14:42
Hipsters and hippies are not the same thing. |
Posted By: WeepingElf
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 14:50
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[sarcasm] Hipsters use music genre names as a secret code. These genre names are not defined by recognizable features of the music, rather the hipsters have lists which arbitrarily assign bands to "genres", and which they learn by heart. If you don't know these lists, you inevitably misclassify bands - and thereby show that you are not a hipster. [/sarcasm] ------------- ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf "What does Elvish rock music sound like?" - "Yes." |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 17:20
Oh no....no no NO lol! Hippies and hipsters are totally different things altogether! At least hippies listen to good music!   HIPSTER - One who possesses tastes, social attitudes and opinions deemed cool by the cool.
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Posted By: Smurph
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 17:54
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Those people are the lamest looking hipsters. They look like a bad combination of every hipster I see. Annoyyyyyyyyeed. NYC is way full of these people. ------------- http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - http://pseudosentai.bandcamp.com/ wtf |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 18:10
My apologies to you and Mr. Pianoman. Now what would be one of the major differences? Possibly less HEMP?? So, a Hipster would maybe be like Cosmo Krammer in Seinfeld. I remember Eliane, calling Krammer a HIPSTER DOUFAS one time. Anyhow, i think I get what you are saying. And yeah, the new agey Chakra crystal wearing individual is far different than..... ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 18:22
QFT And neither one is 'better' or 'worse'. |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 19:54
I dress in polo shirts and khakis to be ironic. |
Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 20:08
I don't know what a Hipster is, and somehow I'm not embarrassed to say it. There was a local band here in the early '80's called The Hypstrz and they were really good if you were looking for the opposite of prog, which I sort of was at the time. But nowadaze I'd say they listen to Coldplay. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 06 2013 at 23:07
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Posted By: kingesis2
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 21:42
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Society calls you a hipster just because you hear bands that they never heard or heard of... ...so, al progers are hipsters
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 22:32
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Hipsters? This thread is so 2007 Making fun of hipsters - 2008 Ironically admitting you're one of them while not being one of them - 2009 Ironically admitting you don't know if you're one of them while not really knowing if you're one of them - 2010 Keep your mind open, proggers |
Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: November 07 2013 at 23:19
| What year is not knowing or caring about what one is? |
Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: November 08 2013 at 00:23
I had the same thought a while ago and just submitted to a yes. Life hasn't been quite the same since... |
Posted By: The Mystical
Date Posted: November 08 2013 at 02:36
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Sigor Ros instantly springs to mind. ------------- I am currently digging: Hawkwind, Rare Bird, Gong, Tangerine Dream, Khan, Iron Butterfly, and all things canterbury and hard-psych. I also love jazz! Please drop me a message with album suggestions. |
Posted By: Chozal
Date Posted: November 08 2013 at 05:12
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^ indeed, as most post/crossover stuff imo.
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 09:33
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Tell me what hipsters are. To me they're trousers. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: November 11 2013 at 23:19
Prog hipsters.... |
Posted By: mongofa
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 00:12
Also Sogir Rus -------------
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Posted By: stegor
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 07:21
| And Rigor Sauce |
Posted By: kingesis2
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 18:49
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But we don´t necesarily need to use old clothes or having alternative lifestyles ------------- "Cranberry sauce" The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever |
Posted By: -Radioswim-
Date Posted: November 12 2013 at 21:07
Oh god I just diedAs a general reply to the thread. I've always found that classifying people into a wedge is foolish no matter how intrinsic it may feel. I have a friend who absolutely loves to use the word "Hipster" to denigrate a particular artist or song I recommend, and although he would never admit if I asked him, it's painfully obvious to me that he unfairly avoids appreciating a particular artist or song based solely on whether or not a 'hipster' would like it. He's actually used the words "sounds too hipster". What being hipster and the sound of music have to do with each-other is beyond me. This attitude of pretentiousness is generally how I would consider someone being a 'hipster dufus'. Liking or disliking something based on it's sub-cultural basis. Which is ironically what I would consider my friend, who hates 'hipster's. He acts like the dufus type of it... uhhh... I have a headache thinking about it. So anyways, my point is, there isn't any way you can say "this is what hipsters like", because people aren't hipsters, they're individuals who are going to like what they like, unless they act like a hipster dufus and preconceive their appreciation for something. my brain just keeps hurting... this is pointless. Circular logic  (I suck)-------------  Dust in the Kitchen |
Posted By: WeepingElf
Date Posted: November 13 2013 at 13:30
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Good point, Radioswim. Are there any people who consider themselves hipsters? ------------- ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf "What does Elvish rock music sound like?" - "Yes." |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 13 2013 at 14:04
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http://chaoslife.findchaos.com/blacksheep" rel="nofollow">  ------------- What? |
Posted By: WeepingElf
Date Posted: November 15 2013 at 14:57
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That's a good one. ------------- ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf "What does Elvish rock music sound like?" - "Yes." |
Posted By: FrogPrince
Date Posted: November 16 2013 at 14:25
Why delete this thread -- what's wrong with hampsters? I love the little critters -- the way they hoard food and nibble on the likes of fruit and nuts.  |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: November 16 2013 at 19:30
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Hipster hampsters
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: November 18 2013 at 08:42
| Hipsters are a big joke and no one makes more or better fun of them than Steve Colbert. |