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King Crimson vs. Gentle Giant Part 6

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Topic: King Crimson vs. Gentle Giant Part 6
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Subject: King Crimson vs. Gentle Giant Part 6
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 02:49
Part 6 of my seven part series.

Which one do you prefer?

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“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart






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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 02:58
The Power and the Glory.

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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 03:11
Starless and Bible Black - P&tG is one of those albums that I feel is terribly overrated even though I think it is a 4 star album....go figure!


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 03:18
GG again for me !!


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 03:20
Crimson by a kingdom.


Posted By: LSDisease
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 03:33
Glory Hole...oops it's not the title. GG for me again but it's their weirdest album IMO.

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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 03:52
Starless and Bible Black with a very small margin.

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Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 04:39
Harder than part 4 and 5 but I think I'll stick with KC


Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 07:56
The Power and the Glory


Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 07:59
Power and the Glory

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Prog On!


Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 09:41
TPatG


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 15:18
TPATG!! I only like the first side of SABB.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 15:22
Close but The Power & The Glory.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 22:18
A tough one. Voting Starless.

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Posted By: zwordser
Date Posted: January 22 2014 at 22:59
I'll have to go with The Power and the Glory Because its my second favorite GG album.

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Posted By: Genital Giant
Date Posted: January 23 2014 at 01:34
Tough decision, but I went with Starless and Bible Black because overall I think it's a better album than Power and the Glory. I actually think Starless gets underrated a bit among Crimson albums. People jump up and down about Red but I think Starless and Bible Black is the more creative and interesting album.


Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: January 23 2014 at 03:18

The Power and the Glory



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For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.


Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: January 24 2014 at 12:23
The Power and the Glory

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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: January 24 2014 at 12:39
The Power and the Glory

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 11 2014 at 01:55
bump


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 11 2014 at 02:00
Power and the Glory by a whisker.

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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: May 11 2014 at 09:47
The Power And The Glory is my favourite GG album, and SABB is probably my least favourite 70's KC album, but still pretty close. Gentle Giant for me Smile


Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 11 2014 at 10:40
Originally posted by BarryGlibb BarryGlibb wrote:

Starless and Bible Black - P&tG is one of those albums that I feel is terribly overrated even though I think it is a 4 star album....go figure!

Agreed. "The Night Watch" is superb, and one of my favorite KC songs. Certainly the best Wetton sang.


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Posted By: Ruby900
Date Posted: May 14 2014 at 03:30
Don't like Power and glory at all, and although Starless is patchy, the best moments are incredible!

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Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: May 14 2014 at 22:15
Starless and Bible Black.


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: May 14 2014 at 22:41
The Power and the Glory is so overrated like most of GG's albums are anyway.

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Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: May 15 2014 at 05:31
^Yes, they are aren't they? Funny how such an overrated band can have so many overrated albums. AND...have 5 albums in the top 100 studio albums of all time on this site. There are too many people on this site that have no taste in prog at all.


Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 15 2014 at 07:22
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

The Power and the Glory is so overrated like most of GG's albums are anyway.

You are entitled to your opinion, however misguided it may be.

In my personal opinion, I think all GG's albums are, if anything UNDERrated (and that from someone who really didn't like them from the 70s to about 2000, than they just "clicked").

I don't like KC much, but others do - so they're not overrated, are they?


Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 15 2014 at 20:38
KC Starless for me......I like The Power and The Glory but all of the Wetton period KC is simply awesome and Great Deceiver and Nightwatch are superb.

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Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 16 2014 at 05:06
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Power and the Glory by a whisker.

THIS!


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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 16 2014 at 05:18
This one from KC has been the record which has been sitting on the backburner for the longest, but recently I have started to realise just how brilliant Bible Black really is. The highs on that sucker tower just about anything other than maybe the lizard suite, most of Larks tongues, Islands title track and of course Starless:-)

GG's TPATG is not my kind of bag...not yet at least. I much prefer Acquiring the Taste, Octopus and Three Friends.

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Posted By: CharlesPL
Date Posted: May 17 2014 at 22:46
Starless and Bible Black


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: May 17 2014 at 22:56
Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

The Power and the Glory is so overrated like most of GG's albums are anyway.

You are entitled to your opinion, however misguided it may be.

In my personal opinion, I think all GG's albums are, if anything UNDERrated (and that from someone who really didn't like them from the 70s to about 2000, than they just "clicked").

I don't like KC much, but others do - so they're not overrated, are they?


Any band who is hyped to the hills is considered overrated, but our own subjectivity gets in the way here and is what separates each of us.

I wouldn't say my opinion is misguided at all. What yardstick are you using to measure whose opinion is 'misguided' or not? Who's to say that your opinion isn't the one that's actually misguided? You may not agree with my opinion but it doesn't mean this opinion is without merit. I have plenty of reasons as to why I think GG is overrated, but who really cares? You like them, I don't, so let's move along.


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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: May 22 2014 at 17:29
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

The Power and the Glory is so overrated like most of GG's albums are anyway.

You are entitled to your opinion, however misguided it may be.

In my personal opinion, I think all GG's albums are, if anything UNDERrated (and that from someone who really didn't like them from the 70s to about 2000, than they just "clicked").

I don't like KC much, but others do - so they're not overrated, are they?


Any band who is hyped to the hills is considered overrated, but our own subjectivity gets in the way here and is what separates each of us.

I wouldn't say my opinion is misguided at all. What yardstick are you using to measure whose opinion is 'misguided' or not? Who's to say that your opinion isn't the one that's actually misguided? You may not agree with my opinion but it doesn't mean this opinion is without merit. I have plenty of reasons as to why I think GG is overrated, but who really cares? You like them, I don't, so let's move along.
 

The point is not whether you think they're overrated or I think they are underrated; the consensus on here from a large number of people is that they are a highly respected, highly rated band with 5 albums in the top 100 on here.

Oh, and they're winning this poll, too.


Posted By: BarryGlibb
Date Posted: May 23 2014 at 04:39
^here, here!


Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: May 24 2014 at 05:36
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

The Power and the Glory is so overrated like most of GG's albums are anyway.

You are entitled to your opinion, however misguided it may be.

In my personal opinion, I think all GG's albums are, if anything UNDERrated (and that from someone who really didn't like them from the 70s to about 2000, than they just "clicked").

I don't like KC much, but others do - so they're not overrated, are they?


Any band who is hyped to the hills is considered overrated, but our own subjectivity gets in the way here and is what separates each of us.

I wouldn't say my opinion is misguided at all. What yardstick are you using to measure whose opinion is 'misguided' or not? Who's to say that your opinion isn't the one that's actually misguided? You may not agree with my opinion but it doesn't mean this opinion is without merit. I have plenty of reasons as to why I think GG is overrated, but who really cares? You like them, I don't, so let's move along.

Wait, wait, wait. GG overrated 

LOL


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“War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

Ignorance is strength.”

― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four



"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart





Posted By: mike1259
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 12:17
I...can't...doit... and what is this feeling of anger?...


Posted By: KingCrInuYasha
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 12:24
I'm not too sure. On the one hand, I find The Power And The Glory to be a more consistent record; on the other hand, Starless And Bible Black has better high points. As good as The Power... is, even the best songs on there can't touch "Fracture".


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Posted By: mike1259
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 13:03
Originally posted by KingCrInuYasha KingCrInuYasha wrote:


I'm not too sure. On the one hand, I find The Power And The Glory to be a more consistent record; on the other hand, Starless And Bible Black has better high points. As good as The Power... is, even the best songs on there can't touch "Fracture".

   Well put!



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