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Topic: Mirage or Moonmadness?
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: Mirage or Moonmadness?
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 14:22
Again, both very similar and similarly rated albums on PA (4.38). Mirage has just recently overtaken Moonmadness on PA, but every website shows a different outcome, so I thought this poll might be close? Tongue 

Personally, my favourite is Mirage by a long way. Moonmadness is definitely good, but nothing compared to Mirage in my mind Smile

Once again, thanks for any feedback! Big smile

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 14:24
Both are good, but I have always felt more liking for Moonmadness.

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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 14:26
Moonmadness has a special place in my ears.

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Posted By: tszirmay
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 14:31
Mirage, that opening beercan effect is a prog icon! 

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Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 15:10
Mirage.
Moonmadness starts and ends great, but I find the "middle" songs to be somewhat lacking.


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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 15:38
MIRAGE  





Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 15:50
Moonmadness

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Posted By: zappaholic
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 15:57
Oddly enough, the only two Camel albums I own.  I'll go with Moonmadness simply because I'll reach for it first given the opportunity.




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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 16:27
Mirage.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 16:49
I personally find both albums rather weak, but ... Moonmadness. The compositions are better, and Andy Ward gets to really shine.

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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 16:51
Mirage

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 17:05
Moonmaddness for me.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 20:56
Mirage was the first album I got from them, and still is my favourite. Moonmadness is wonderful too, of course, but I feel Mirage reaches higher points.


Posted By: JediJoker7169
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 22:27
Moonmadness.  It has its weak moments, but the brilliance of tracks like "Chord Change" and "Lunar Sea" elevate it above Mirage in my estimation.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 23:09
Mirage to make them tie Wink

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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 23:27
Kind of comes down to Lunar Sea versus Lady Fantasy. Can't lose. Think I go for Mirage a bit more. Got both...


Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: February 23 2014 at 23:55
Moonmadness

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 01:43
Mirage has a great feeling (or 'vibe')about it which I suspect Camel never really repeated.


Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 03:46
Moon is full of strong tracks. Mirage has 2 strong tracks supertwister and nimrodel. Moon is twice as good

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 05:34
Mirage by a lot

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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 16:55
For some reason I never dug Mirage, but I really like Moonmadness.

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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 18:22
Both two stunning albums. Mirage has two amazintg tracks (Lady and Nimrodel) and the rest nothing special. Moonmadness is almost all perfect, no weak points. So as a whole thing, I prefer Moonmadness.

I feel some Deja vu with this poll. I think that not many time ago I said almost the same... is that true?


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 19:02
Moonmadness has the edge, overall, though Mirage has "Never Let Go" and other cool songs.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 19:03
^ "Never Let Go" is on their debut album.



Mirage:

Side one
  1. "Freefall" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bardens" rel="nofollow - Peter Bardens ) 5:53
  2. "Supertwister" (Bardens) 3:22
  3. "Nimrodel/The Procession/The White Rider" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Latimer" rel="nofollow - Andrew Latimer ) 9:17
Side two
  1. "Earthrise" (Bardens, Latimer) 6:40
  2. "Lady Fantasy" (Bardens, Latimer,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Ward_%28musician%29" rel="nofollow - Andy Ward , Doug Ferguson) 12:45
    • "Encounter"
    • "Smiles for You"
    • "Lady Fantasy"



Moonmadness:

Side one
  1. "Aristillus" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Latimer" rel="nofollow - Andrew Latimer ) 1:56
  2. "Song Within a Song" (Latimer,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Bardens" rel="nofollow - Peter Bardens ) 7:16
  3. "Chord Change" (Latimer, Bardens) 6:45
  4. "Spirit of the Water" (Bardens) 2:07
Side two
  1. "Another Night" (Latimer, Bardens,  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Ward_%28musician%29" rel="nofollow - Andy Ward , Doug Ferguson) 6:58
  2. "Air Born" (Latimer, Bardens) 5:02
  3. "Lunar Sea" (Latimer, Bardens) 9:11


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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 19:59
I prefer the snowgoose over either one but I chose Mirage. Moonmadness is still very good too though. 

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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: February 24 2014 at 20:10
Originally posted by HolyMoly

Mirage by a lot


Yeah, this is the only Camel album I would have any hope of sitting through without taking a nap.


Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 19:07
This is difficult. I'll vote for Moonmadness.

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Posted By: Progbeatz
Date Posted: February 25 2014 at 19:09
mirage is sweet sweet butter

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Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: February 26 2014 at 03:32
Moonmadness!


Posted By: Chimaera
Date Posted: February 27 2014 at 18:33
Jeez - where have this band been all my life?

Never really listened to them that much but these albums have some fantastic tracks.

Any others worth checking out?


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 27 2014 at 18:38
^ People usually look to the "classic trinity": Mirage, Music Inspired by "The Snow Goose", and Moonmadness. Some even count in their debut (the early days) and Rajaz (the latter days). Their rather poppy effort Breathless is my personal favorite, though. Tastes can be quite tricky.

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: February 27 2014 at 18:53
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

^ People usually look to the "classic trinity": Mirage, Music Inspired by "The Snow Goose", and Moonmadness. Some even count in their debut (the early days) and Rajaz (the latter days). Their rather poppy effort Breathless is my personal favorite, though. Tastes can be quite tricky.
 
I also enjoy the short tracks from "Dust and Dreams" and "Nude", and you?


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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: February 27 2014 at 19:52
Rajaz is great music. And what about the song FOR TODAY? For me a masterpiece (music and lyric)


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: February 27 2014 at 20:06
Debut for me.  

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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: February 28 2014 at 00:53
32/32
4.38/4.38

Evens stevens


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 28 2014 at 01:15
^ M-hm ... especially since some of us voted for the one that was behind when they couldn't choose between the two.

Originally posted by Rick Robson

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

^ People usually look to the "classic trinity": Mirage, Music Inspired by "The Snow Goose", and Moonmadness. Some even count in their debut (the early days) and Rajaz (the latter days). Their rather poppy effort Breathless is my personal favorite, though. Tastes can be quite tricky.
 
I also enjoy the short tracks from "Dust and Dreams" and "Nude", and you?
I haven't heard those.


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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: February 28 2014 at 01:28
Not voting Cuz that 32/32 split is too appealing.

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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: February 28 2014 at 01:29
^ And because you can't choose too?

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Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: February 28 2014 at 01:57
Originally posted by bloodnarfer

Not voting Cuz that 32/32 split is too appealing.


I broke the tie, you can always come back and fix it. Embarrassed

Moonmadness for me.


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Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: February 28 2014 at 17:44
If you had asked me when I started getting into Camel, I would've said Mirage, but now I say Moonmadness.

Not much between them though. Easily my favourite two of their first five albums, which are the ones I own and are most familiar with.

The Snow Goose is my least favourite of those, BTW.

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Posted By: notesworth
Date Posted: February 28 2014 at 18:10
*sees score is tied* *votes for Mirage* Going with Mirage. I love both albums but I love Mirage more.


Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: March 01 2014 at 01:06
Moonmadness


Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: March 01 2014 at 08:28
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

^ M-hm ... especially since some of us voted for the one that was behind when they couldn't choose between the two.

Originally posted by Rick Robson

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

^ People usually look to the "classic trinity": Mirage, Music Inspired by "The Snow Goose", and Moonmadness. Some even count in their debut (the early days) and Rajaz (the latter days). Their rather poppy effort Breathless is my personal favorite, though. Tastes can be quite tricky.
 
I also enjoy the short tracks from "Dust and Dreams" and "Nude", and you?
I haven't heard those.
 
Camel - Landscapes (Nude) is the first Camel song that i happened to know, it was the "curtain" of a Radio Program which i listened to sometimes in the final of 80's, this melancholic song is special for me, it indeed consolated me sometimes... a kind of song not common in the Prog Rock world.


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Posted By: Meurglys
Date Posted: March 01 2014 at 16:38
The Snow Goose! 


Posted By: Ruralfaune
Date Posted: March 02 2014 at 04:16
Moonmadness i think




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Posted By: Master of Time
Date Posted: March 03 2014 at 06:50
I feel like Mirage is far and away Camel's best album and I don't understand why people prefer Moonmadness, or Snow Goose for that matter.


Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: March 03 2014 at 16:48
I give the lead to Moonmadness! Although Lady Fantasy is my favorite Camel song.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 03 2014 at 20:37
Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim

I give the lead to Moonmadness! Although Lady Fantasy is my favorite Camel song.


As a matter of fact, Lady Fantasy may just as well be the song that make me prefer "Mirage"... and "The White Rider" too, in a lesser degree. The thing is, apart from those two songs, both albums seem just about equally brilliant to me, but it is those two songs that put Mirage a step ahead.


Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: March 04 2014 at 06:21
Originally posted by Dellinger

Originally posted by Billy Pilgrim

I give the lead to Moonmadness! Although Lady Fantasy is my favorite Camel song.


As a matter of fact, Lady Fantasy may just as well be the song that make me prefer "Mirage"... and "The White Rider" too, in a lesser degree. The thing is, apart from those two songs, both albums seem just about equally brilliant to me, but it is those two songs that put Mirage a step ahead.

For me, as an overall I like Moonmadness a little more. Air Born, Song Within A Song, Lunar Sea, can't vote against them, even if I really like Lady Fantasy.


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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: March 04 2014 at 06:31
I enjoy original tracks, and Camel has this plus, i would include Aristillus as a nice original one.

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