Jon Anderson with Jean-Luc Ponty
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Topic: Jon Anderson with Jean-Luc Ponty
Posted By: Dellinger
Subject: Jon Anderson with Jean-Luc Ponty
Date Posted: March 12 2014 at 22:56
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I just read that Jon Anderson is planning to form a new band, with Jean-Luc Ponty in the line-up. http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/03/10/we-start-work-in-june-i-think-ex-yes-frontman-jon-andersons-new-band-to-include-legendary-figure/ |
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 12 2014 at 23:58
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You just beat me! Here's the link again: http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/03/10/we-start-work-in-june-i-think-ex-yes-frontman-jon-andersons-new-band-to-include-legendary-figure/" rel="nofollow - http://somethingelsereviews.com/2014/03/10/we-start-work-in-june-i-think-ex-yes-frontman-jon-andersons-new-band-to-include-legendary-figure/
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Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 04:38
| Can't wait to hear that ! Ponty is outstanding. I wonder what kind of music they will create |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 06:05
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Amazing ! -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 06:29
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I very much doubt this will happen, as with most of Jon's plans. We are still awaiting the Rabin and Wakeman thingy. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 07:25
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lazland wrote:Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 07:36
Yes, absolutely. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 14:40
Oh, ye of little faith!!
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 15:23
I'm getting more cynical as I get older!  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 20:34
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we shall see about Jon's dreams--he really has been all over the place for a long time---even before Yes moved on without him---his spacey attention deficit disorder used to get on the serious and meticulous Steve Howe's nerves---his music has been real bad to mediocre for some time IMO--and he is one of my favorite singers---he needs to collaborate with some strong musicians like Ponty--like he used to do with the great Yes men---and I think, hope he realizes it.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 13 2014 at 22:40
Perhaps the band he is talking about with be himself, Ponty, Wakeman, and Rabin (plus some drummer and bass player), and they will create the followup tu Olias  And then they can go on tour and play both Olias albums together and release it on CD/DVD 
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 00:04
Yeah, I've thought of that as well! Whomever he picks, Jon will love and trust them implicitly. No more shivs in the back I'm sure.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 00:45
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I'd listen. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 05:10
I'm just going by this website http://www.sevendragons.org/zamran/index.htm" rel="nofollow - http://www.sevendragons.org/zamran/index.htm which said it was forthcoming in 2012.
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 19:13
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This would be exceedingly cool - two of my favorites in one package. I won't hold my breath, though. It may just come after half a dozen detours. Time to get that Moorglade moving again! ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 20:16
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This has been posted to Facebook: Jon Anderson -- Vocals Jean Luc Ponty -- Violin Baron Browne -- Bass Rayford Griffin -- Drums.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 14 2014 at 22:26
| It sounds nice. No guitars nor keyboards, I guess that will be interesting. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 15 2014 at 00:11
I think they are just revving up the machine! Both Jean Luc and Jon have played with the masters of guitar and keyboard, so I'm happy to watch this come together. Here's a news article: http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/464393/Jon-Anderson-forming-new-band-with-Jean-Luc-Ponty" rel="nofollow - http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbiz/464393/Jon-Anderson-forming-new-band-with-Jean-Luc-Ponty Someone on Facebook has information that Jordan Rudess will be the keyboard player. That would be fantastic, if true! The fact that Ponty is involved gives some heft to these rumors.
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 15 2014 at 09:10
| well I hope it is true---that line-up sounds like a good band ---as long as rabin is not involved it should be interesting and creative music. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 15 2014 at 14:55
I would be a bit dissapointed, since I'd really like Anderson to work with Wakeman again, and it would be cool if he were part of this project too. However Rudess is awsome too. If he is part of the project, I hope he plays something more similar to what he did in Steven Wilson's "Grace for drowning", and stays away from his playing in DT... I feel it would fit better on the project (and also, I can hardly imagine Wakeman playing in that stile). |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: March 15 2014 at 16:54
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Hi,
I hope this works, but I think that Jean Luc Ponty will be too strong a force for Jon to deal with musically, and it might not go beyond a few songs on a CD.
It would be extra nice if something huge came out of this, but there are not too many musicians that Jean Luc will work with, probably due to his caliber, but that's likely my imagination saying this. He might blow Jon right out of town and close shop!
I guess that "Return to Forever" don't have anything scheduled for a while? ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 15 2014 at 16:56
| I like the whole jazzy line-up--wish Moraz was invited to be part of it---now that would be exciting---I think his work with Wakeman was not very good so I'm glad he is going in an arty-jazzy direction. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 15 2014 at 17:14
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If Jordan Rudess were truly involved, I think he would be like the orchestra's conductor. It could be absolutely brilliant! My guess is that a lot of these aging progsters want to go out with a massive, creative bang, rather than limp along from casino to casino as Yes is doing. How degrading that must be, playing forty-year-old music endlessly. I know, we've come close with Jon in the past. Let's see what happens, if the popular entertainment press has picked up on it, I bet it will be worth listening for!
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 15 2014 at 23:03
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[QUOTE=moshkito]Hi,
I hope this works, but I think that Jean Luc Ponty will be too strong a force for Jon to deal with musically, and it might not go beyond a few songs on a CD.
It would be extra nice if something huge came out of this, but there are not too many musicians that Jean Luc will work with, probably due to his caliber, but that's likely my imagination saying this. He might blow Jon right out of town and close shop!
I yeah I agree---with your analysis---was thinking the same thing.
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 16 2014 at 00:46
Why must the members of Yes stop playing and doing what they love most, playing Yes music to the masses? They are entitled to live on and earn what they can. Even the cruise gig sounded great. I cannot understand why some of us expect bands to hang up their boots. I saw Jon Anderson in Aspen 2012 and half the songs he forgot his lines It is still great to see him carry on....anybody remember Diane Sawyer asking Mick Jagger why he still played at 70? His reply was well " Diane, you are my age and still do anchor for TV..." and even she stumbles on some grog from time to time. His response shut her up too. Anyways baffles me....cos our embarrassment may not be apparent to those still doing what they love, even if Chris Squire resembles an ageing chubby Rod Stewart.------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 16 2014 at 00:58
Yes are free to continue to play the Akron, Ohio Pig Festival if they wish! Whatever pays the bills. For those of us who have been with the band for a long time (I saw the CTTE show in Chicago, 1972), the limping along of Yes playing substandard music is grating. I mean, really....Geoff Downes can't even approach Wakeman's parts decently, White has lost his beat, Howe has become a grumpy, scary old man, and Squire is, as you point out, massive. I like Jon Davison a lot from his Yes cover days & work with Glass Hammer, so I hope they yet produce some decent new music before they hang it up. However, the last work, "Fly From Here," really sounded like a band running on empty. See Number 2.... http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-absurd-reasons-musicians-have-been-fired-from-famous-bands_p2/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage" rel="nofollow - http://www.cracked.com/blog/5-absurd-reasons-musicians-have-been-fired-from-famous-bands_p2/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=fanpage&utm_campaign=new+article&wa_ibsrc=fanpage |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: March 16 2014 at 07:37
^ I listened to that Yes album on streaming and liked it, but have really given up on Yes many years ago.
Yeah that was pretty cool that Jean Luc wound up in Return's return. I'm really interested in what the new guys are doing these days, but Ponty and Jon Anderson are old faves of mine. I've been cycling back in time though my collection and am at the "80's. Song Of Seven was such a disappointment compared to Olias. (I think I may be repeating myself here.) ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 18:46
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I saw Jean-Luc perform with Return to Forever. He looked like he felt out of place. He really did not have a lot of room to play and the three man core of the group - Corea, Clark, & White, seemed to have had their own good ol' boys club going. The music was fantastic but I was disappointed in that there was no new music. To me, this project has tremendous potential and I suspect we may hear Jean-Luc's softer and more melodic side. That, I would welcome. This may turn out to be similar to Anderson's collaboration with Kitaro on the album 'Dream.' For keys, I would like to hear somebody like Vangelis who could create truly lush orchestrations, but I don't think that likely. That would just about be the ultimate for me - Anderson, Ponty, Vangelis. Throw in Hackett on guitar and it would be ultimate. While I am dreaming, I would also like a pony and world peace. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 20:53
I'm not sure what you mean by like an orchestra conductor. What I understand is that he would do all those symphonic textures with keyboards, much like he does on Dream Theater (or Wakeman himself does with Yes). However, as I said before, I believe with this project he would fit better taking an aproach similar to what he did with Steven Wilson on "Grace for Drowining", kind of more jazzy. And really, I hope he does that, it was really nice (actually, he might try a bit of that with DT themselves, give them a bit of a different sound so they may try and come out with something fresh). |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 21:54
well that would be an amazing group---too bad Vangelis dislikes Jon and hasn't spoken to him in years---
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 24 2014 at 00:05
In many bands, it seems that one musician or another takes a lead role in conducting/coordinating the music when all hell breaks loose! Zappa used to formally conduct his band with a baton. Many times, I've noticed that the keyboard players in bands seem to be the one to direct changes, keep tempo etc. Chick Corea, John Evan, and Joe Zawinul come to mind (I've seen each of them, live). Keyboardists are often the most technical players in an ensemble setting. Jon Anderson posted this to his Facebook page: East Coast here we come, keeping warm, what a crazy winter you guys are having...i hope you can come and see my 'solo' show, we will have fun, and it will be a very special time this time around....I'm starting a Band this summer with Jean Luc Ponty, Jordan Rudess, Michael Lewis, Rayford Griffin, and Baron Brown..it will be wild and wonderful and most of all, 'fun'...see you soon, if not sooner...love and 'light'..Jon & Janee This sounds very promising! These are all veteran players....I wasn't familiar with Lewis, this is what I found: “I worked with a friend of mine who used to live in Nashville, guitarist Michael Lewis,” Anderson said. “We’ve written two or three songs together, and he’s friends with Jean-Luc. I suggested we put some violin on one of our tracks, and Michael got Jean-Luc to add some to one of our songs. So now we have this connection, and last year we talked about putting a band together with Jean-Luc, so I got in touch with some guys, some fantastic musicians, and all of a sudden we have a band. We’re just trying to figure out the step. We’ve written about five pieces of music together through the Internet. That’s what the Internet is for — it’s like a modern studio. We should be up and running for a tour next year. I’m excited to do some creative work as a band and see where it takes us.” |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 24 2014 at 20:33
| Wonderful, I'm really looking forward for this. I wonder if it will come up better than the new Yes... I guess it depends on which mood of songwriting Jon is. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 00:22
I see that Yes has given the name "Heaven and Earth" to their upcoming CD, and announced touring plans: http://www.jambase.com/Articles/121132/Tour-Dates-Yes-U.S-Summer-Tour-2014" rel="nofollow - http://www.jambase.com/Articles/121132/Tour-Dates-Yes-U.S-Summer-Tour-2014 This could get interesting!
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: March 25 2014 at 22:20
| Yeah, I want some new Yes too. I guess I shouldn't expect them to make another masterpiece album, since for me the only ones they ever did were Fragile and CttE, but who knows, perhaps John Davison will give us a surprise with his input. If not, then at least I hope to get a few great new songs... they have done lot's of them through the years. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 13:36
Here's a great photo of John Evan doing his "conduct the band" thing!  |
Posted By: N-sz
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 15:05
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Oh I hope, I hope, I HOPE this really goes through! That would be really cool. ------------- https://blankspacerecords.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Blank Space Records |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 16:48
Please see Jean Luc Ponty's website for details: http://www.ponty.com/message-board" rel="nofollow - http://www.ponty.com/message-board Yes it is true that Jon Anderson and I are planning to put a band together, perhaps recording this year and touring next year 2015. We met a long time ago and I knew we had musical affinities, yet when we tried recently I could not believe how great his singing works with my music, just incredible. The idea is to mix my music with his songs from the Yes period and new ones, and a mixed band of his musicians and mine. We will keep you informed of the development of this great project. Mar 27, 2014 12:47am |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 12 2014 at 20:59
| I just read in FB someone making a comment about Jordan Rudess getting out of this project because of lack of time. Still, no source and I have no idea if it might be just misinformation, anyone has read something about this? |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 12 2014 at 23:18
A number of us fans are in touch with Michael Lewis, the guitarist behind "Inventioning." He responded to the question on his FB page:
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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: May 13 2014 at 01:29
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Here's more on Jordan Rudess from Michael Lewis: https://www.facebook.com/MichaelLewisMusic" rel="nofollow - Michael Lewis Music Hi everyone, I did not feel at liberty to make the official announcement about this until now... However, someone brought to my attention a post that ended up on a Yes Fans page... someone heard from Jordan Rudess about his decision, so, since it was public (via the grapevine), I went ahead and posted the pic Jordan took of us in Seattle a few weeks ago and, as expected, I had to answer the inevitable question. As far as a replacement keyboardist goes... you all have some great suggestions... There are lots of great players out there and the band is well aware of just about everyone in existence who might be able to do this gig (with a few exceptions of course). The band (and the manager) have talked to and considered dozens of possible folks. Jordan was someone I had suggested for the band (after some of the obvious choices turned out to be unavailable) but since that didn't pan out, Jon will be the one to make the decision about who to talk for the key position. So please hang loose and we'll all see what happens from here. Feel free to ask question on this page and I'll do my best to answer them. Thanks very much, best wishes to all! Michael Lewis
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: May 13 2014 at 20:42
| Too bad indeed, it would have been really interesting to have Jordan Rudess involved, somehow it sounds as if he were a perfect fit. I would have thought Jordan might have tried harder to make some space in order to be able to work with such legends... though in the end he is over half the road to become a legend himself... or perhaps we could already consider him such. However, if it were up to Jon Anderson, I would think the easiest way to go, and the one that would be more easy to convince, would be Wakeman, and in a way I guess you could hardly go wrong with him, given his chops... but somehow I feel this project would need something jazzier. For me, the perfect replacement would be Patrick Moraz, the perfect bridge between Anderson's stile and Ponty's. |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 14 2014 at 12:59
| Still hoping this comes to pass. I would love to see this tour the USA. |
Posted By: MasterOfPuppets
Date Posted: July 26 2014 at 10:37
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It's happening, but it needs your help! https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1711196158/jon-anderson-and-jean-luc-ponty-project |
Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 01:46
| Ah, so it's adaptations of old songs, as well as new stuff. |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: July 27 2014 at 17:50
I'm not sure this would be a good match. It's possible that it would be, but I am not sure that the music sensibilities that Jordan has are anywhere the visionary/whimsical style that Jon has, which might better fit a classical/jazz styled musician than someone like Jordan.
I can't really say ... it's just a feeling. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 12 2014 at 12:55
As a contributor, I have privileged access to samples of new song samples. Folks, this stuff is AMAZING!! It is worth it for you to donate some small amount just to get the updates!! Anderson's vocals & lyrics, combined with JLP's string arrangements and compositional skills, and a HOT group of instrumentalists, is generating music that I think is superior in the prog world! See if you can access the "Demo Clips": https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1711196158/jon-anderson-and-jean-luc-ponty-project" rel="nofollow - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1711196158/jon-anderson-and-jean-luc-ponty-project These guys will certainly kick the dregs of Yes out of the arena!! Cheers, Charles
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: August 12 2014 at 13:10
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Thanks, Charles. I just contributed. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: August 12 2014 at 15:25
Agree ---not wakeman but Moraz---for me it needs a more rock or jazzy sound---and a groove--but they may get there.
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: August 12 2014 at 15:53
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For this project, I would rather see non-Yes musicians involved, to put a different perspective into the music. ------------- Trust me. I know what I'm doing. |
Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: August 12 2014 at 23:21
Anderson is the only Yes musician involved that I can see. This won't be another ABWH, but new music and new treatments of some Yes music. I really doubt that this group will slog through CTTE or Fragile, as the "old" Yes are doing. They have some really exciting ideas!! I wish they had a bigger name for guitarist....Daryl Stuermer would have been great! He has jazz-rock fusion chops and symphonic cred from playing with Genesis for so long, and he was Ponty's guitarist back in the 1970s. The guitarist they have is great, I want to hear more since they've only release short snippets of music. I'm jacked up!
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Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: August 13 2014 at 06:09
| Well, I'm not sure what I was expecting it to sound like, but it wasn't this- not that that's necessarily a bad thing, but I'll have to wait for more than demos. Didn't expect the electronic influences, or the massive orchestral feel to parts of it. |
Posted By: MasterOfPuppets
Date Posted: August 15 2014 at 20:15
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We're getting close, but it needs a little more! Anything you can give will help! http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1711196158/jon-anderson-and-jean-luc-ponty-project" rel="nofollow - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1711196158/jon-anderson-and-jean-luc-ponty-project |