Tony Iommi or David Gilmour
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Topic: Tony Iommi or David Gilmour
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Tony Iommi or David Gilmour
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 08:42
Two gutiar players who are similar yet different, both play the guitar  , both are blues based, both use all the four fingers in soloing and chording, and are articulate, neither use flash but their skills (if not classiclal trained) share a sence of modesty and respect towards the guitar as something more then a piece of wood, but a tool to make people cry or pee their pants in fright, both can play balls to the walls riff but also, plucking, picking, and have nice vibratos, and sustaine technique, both even have a signature vibrato which you know when newer guitarists pull them of that its from their Immoi or Gilmour pocket, (Kim Thaiyl has a large Iommi pocket and Steven Wilson have a large Gilmour pocket).Both also are sort of godfathers to certain genres, Iommi to metal Gilmour to space/psych rock, (as Fripp is to prog) though more guitarist have contributed to psych rock sound, pysch/space is Gimours child, (sort of) -------------  
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 08:49
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Both. It depends on my mood. I'm a fan of both bands. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 11:35
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Gilmour ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 12:53
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Going with the majority. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 12:55
| David Gilmour. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 13:08
| Gilmour by a long shot. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 13:18
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Technically, I doubt that Iommi would even say he was the more proficient. If it is a beauty contest, then it rather depends upon whether you prefer Floyd or Sabbath. I love them both, but prefer Floyd. Therefore, Gilmour on both counts. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: March 17 2014 at 16:03
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Both.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 04:47
^ this Not only I love PF and BS, but I like the solo works I heard from these two great guitarists. Tony had three collaborations with Glenn Hughes, I warmly recommend these.
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Blacksword wrote:Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 05:11
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Both - definitely depends on my mood. Both have a unique and recognisable style and the world of rock would be emptier without them. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 05:19
I guess it's a silly comparison. One is a prog rock guitarist with an emphasis on atmospherics and melodic soloing and the other is a heavy metal riff master. As you say though, both really good, alone or with their respective bands. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: MortSahlFan
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 05:56
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I love both, but I go with Gilmour.. Very economic, melodic.. always loved when he harmonized, too. Great tone. Tony was one of the greatest riff masters, ever. Underrated. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 06:01
underrated? everyone who listens to rock and metal knows who he is and what he's done.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 06:41
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Two very different guitarists. Gilmour may be the more technically proficient of the two, but Iommi's raw power speaks to me more than Gilmour's melodic flair. That being said, I love both Pink Floyd and Black Sabbath, though I am not a fan of the post-Waters albums. I also second Cristi's recommendation of the albums Iommi recorded with Glenn Hughes (one under the Black Sabbath handle, two as Iommi) - outstanding examples of modern hard rock. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 06:45
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one of the few times I'll vote both... neither were particularly gifted guitarists talent wise IMO.. but both excelled in what they do. .which are complete worlds apart. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 06:50
Seventh Star was meant to be a Iommi solo album but that's when label idiots interfere, you get a "Black Sabbath featuring Tony Iommi" as the artist.  |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 08:30
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Seriously? More Gilmour for me. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: The.Crimson.King
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 09:55
Love both, but Tony overcame that horrific accident to his fingers to create the genre of doom/dark metal so get's the vote  ------------- https://wytchcrypt.wixsite.com/mutiny-in-jonestown" rel="nofollow - Mutiny in Jonestown : Progressive Rock Since 1987 |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 10:12
Seriously? More Iommi for me. His tone is fantastic. I never tire of his playing. But seriously (haha), while I voted for Tony, I'd normally vote for both. I simply own more albums with TI than DG. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 03 2018 at 10:13
I don't mind it being under the Sabbath banner. Quite the underrated record! ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 00:37
| I have to take both, because I love both so much! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 00:45
Haven't you seen the album cover? It says "Black Sabbath featuring Tony Iommi". It sounds like Black Sabbath had a collaboration with a musician named Tony Iommi. This is a wtf moment in music, if there ever was one.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 02:28
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Iommi is a better metal guitar player, but Gilmour is a better all-around player, so Gilmour.
------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 02:37
| I’m saying ‘both’. Two of my favourites. Not to mention, totally different to each other. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 02:40
Why do people forget that when Black Sabbath started, there was no such thing as "metal". People forget how unique and original BS was in the 70s.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 12:15
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I do like many of the early iconic riffs that Iommi came up with for Sabbath but overall Gilmour provided more listening pleasure for me. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 12:57
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bah... missed the rim completely there Doc.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: ClosetothSupperBrick
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 13:40
| I love both, but it's hard to choose someone over Gilmour in any two-way guitarist poll, he's probably no. 2 of all time imo, after Page |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:38
Too many blood orange ales today or simply not acerbic enough...? ;) Love early Sabbath but Gilmour is a superb and subtle player...Iommi just isn't in the same league...he's ok for what Sabbath did but no depth imho...and please don't bring up those handful of quiet tracks he did,,,they were not all that memorable. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:44
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lmao .. huh... Doc .....well educated.. Micky... knuckle dragging brute you can redeem yourself by pulling a Cristi on me (© Micky 2018) and explaining what the hell ascrebic means. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:48
"pulling a Cristi"? what's that? LOL
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:50
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*cue the doctor to explain* ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:52
everyone's mysterious today
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 15:55
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huh... I am like a cheap novel.. easy to read... impossible to put down ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:12
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acerbic "his acerbic wit" (especially of a comment or style of speaking) sharp and forthright. "..a cheap novel''....................... I love it. ;)
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:19
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ahhh... I thought that is what you meant... thanks for not leaving me hanging there Doc.. I thought I was going to have to beg to have you pull a Cristi on me... (© Micky 2018) ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:23
"pulling a Cristi on someone"? I must have missed it. I do not know if that is good or I am doing something bad, wrong.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:24
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For Mick.....Btw....I'm currently enjoying Ys (one of your favorites) on my Shure headphones as we play these reindeer games. :)
------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:31
oh hell yeah man...  still sort of butthurt I didn't get the definitive review of that album in... lord knows I might be its single biggest fan.. but I caught up in the lust of it kicking curve and drop dead smile... and forgot the warning to throw a prophylactic on first and be safe for she ain't clean man....
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:32
hahah.. don't worry.. you did good. You've achieved a bit of forum immortality.. and not in a bad way. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:39
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^ Absolutely...Cristi is now one of the board icons and a good egg. :) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:40
| I would say Iommi has the higher musical quality to the amount of fingers ratio of the two. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:44
Excellent summation of Ys......love the bass lines....and keys....the vocals are a bit much but then so are Hammill's. ;) Currently listening to Palepoli......an Italian evening here in Indiana.....might make some spaghetti soon. ;) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:56
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hitting the greats man.. 2 of my top 3 favorite prog albums ... make it to the third .. and the favorite of the 3 you'll get to the one review I think I did justice to... I really am not a writer.. so I didn't do Palepoli justice.. but my capo sure did... Review by http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=10439" rel="nofollow - Atavachron SPECIAL COLLABORATOR Honorary Collaborator http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=10439" rel="nofollow">   One eventually gets it, this album, and why the 70s Italian scene was much more than pristine symphonics and precious cherubs. A few spins may be required though, and Osanna were not Banco. But they were terribly progressive and they rocked. The quintet also happened to be incredible musicians, it's just that they were a rebel-rock band first and made no apologies for that. 18 minutes of sheer heavy progdom is 'Oro Caldo', a raw jambalaya of moody atmosphere, experimental samplings, greasy garage dirt, and some flat out classic symphonic prog with a great-sounding mellotron - and other unique and wonderful synth sounds - from Lino Vairetti. Plus the hot flute riffs of Elio D'Anna, absolutely smokin' rhythm section Massimo Guarino (drums) and Lello Brandi (bass), and lo-fi blooz chunks of guitarist Danilo Rustici. But there is so much more going on here it could require months, maybe years, to sort it all out and fully absorb this recording. More than prog rock, with a pull toward the avant garde but never slipping too far away. The session has an inviting, casual tone wherein everyone is welcome to listen and even participate, deep dreams and strange parties abound, plenty of texture, sensuality and odd people... like watching an orgy but not sure if you should join in. The set reminds at times of modern theater as well (i.e. 'Hair'), but shouts out with heavy mercury and constant invention. 'Animale Senza Respiro' takes over for the second half as things really begin to come on. The drugs have kicked-in, man, and it keeps getting better with some ripping guitar and hot band interplay, D'Anna's disjointed saxophones, wild changes, and bathtubs filled with lysergic trips. It all climaxes with the melodic and powerful voice of Vairetti and a bit of insanity, and leaves the listener wondering what they just heard in a very good way. Fabulous, and recommended.------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 16:58
what does being "a good egg" mean?. English is not my first language. :) |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:01
it means a good person  . You can rest easy! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:02
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a damn nice guy.... to be honest .. I had no idea English wasn't your first ...hah... take that as a compliment. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:06
thanks, I will take it as a compliment :)
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:06
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always nice to see a Mama Raff appearance.. out of the blue.... like an artillery shell you never hear coming....just like the old days. Umm hmmm...though in the old days she usually was to protect the poor moron I was taking apart... and to give me a spanking. Oh the good old days of the site. Raff the admin.. Micky the troublemaker.. oh those were the days.. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:06
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^It means you are A-Ok,,,,,a good person and willing to have fun even if it means taking a few hits. :) ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 04 2018 at 17:09
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and on PA's... the 'hits' mean we love you.. you only have to worry when we ignore you. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: March 05 2018 at 10:53
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Apples to oranges. Voted Iommi.
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