Djent vs Grunge
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Topic: Djent vs Grunge
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Djent vs Grunge
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 04:10
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Both are debateable as genres becouse they devide the kine between genre or cultural movement, cultural uproar. One is heavely localised to a a city/ state of Washington, Seattle/Aberdeen. Oter is based around a certain guitar technique / but also a certain aesthetic feel -------------  
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 04:14
| Kurt Cobain was grunge, now what is Djent? |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 05:21
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"Djent" is a neologism coined to describe the music style of Meshuggah and their imitators, at least what they've played after moving away from what can be accurately categorized as falling under the progressive metal umbrella.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 05:24
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Toaster Mantis wrote:Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 05:27
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I'm not a fan of this style at all, but those seem to be the the style's most popular practitioners. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 11:13
While I like Nirvana, I really don't like most grunge bands, but grunge is much more preferable to Djent.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 12:12
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Djent ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 12:19
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The Melvins are all I need to vote.
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 13:21
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That and Soundgarden, who are now by far my favourite mainstream rock group of the 1990s. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: CPicard
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 11:54
| And the good answer is... MathCore! |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 16:04
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Depends what Djent or Grunge we pit off against each other (sorry to be that guy).
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Posted By: Earendil
Date Posted: April 04 2014 at 09:16
I agree. I really like some bands from both genres. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 04 2014 at 09:30
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Grunge is bad and djent isn't a real genre. The small handful o f good "grunge" bands aren't very grungy |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 04:43
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I picked djent, because there are several instrumental bands I listen to. Grunge was huge in the 90s and got annoying fast.The only thing I listen to these days is Pearl Jam's debut and some Alice in Chains.
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Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 04:46
You forgot the "neither" option  ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Kingsnake
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 05:14
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Funny thing: Grunge. The music industry described it to categorize bands from Seattle, and no band wanted to be a grunge band. Nirvana was a punkband Soundgarden was borderline heavy metal/doommetal/stonerrock Alice in Chains was a heavy form of 80's rock, with a more sombre tone and gloomy lyrics Pearl Jam were just a hardrock band, with a seventies-feel. Stone Temple Pilots were somewhat like a cross between Nirvana and Pearl Jam, but they weren't from Seattle. Those were the 'great' Grunge bands, not alike at all, except that they didn't wear make-up and the lyrics weren's about partying. In the wake of grunge (wich was mainstream and all bands were singend by majors), a lot of 'alternative' rockbands emerged. Glamrock and hairmetal (stupid terms) went sombre and introspective and released their heaviest albums in this period but failed to attract new fans. Anyway, Grunge didn't exist. And no Grungeband wanted to be a Grungeband. The same that a lot of progressive rockbands don't want to be a progrockband (Jethro Tull, Threshold etc.). Djent is called djent, because of the sound it makes, when you palmmute the guitarriffs. A lot of palmuted riffs already existed in Thrash- and Deathmetal. Djent just took it to the extreme. As a genre it's kinda boring, nut as a technique it can be used to great rhythmic effect (Fear Factory, Meshuggah, etc.)
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 06:14
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Never heard about Djent, also not the bands that is mentioned as examples of it. How itīs described here I donīt think I have lost anything. Really like to make a poll from the genres I just made myself, but not of course make it because said it here. I disagree about that Grunge didnīt exist, at least it was a last great youth movement (I was a part of it).
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 06:19
| And yes, I liked and still like Nirvana, Hole and Mudhoney. Even saw Nirvana live 1992. Sonic Youth is one of my big passions, but they existed long before grunge. I think they were called godfathers of Grunge (or was it Neil Young?) |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 13:20
| Cant stand any grunge band. And I love Meshuggah, but hate that term Djent. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 13:25
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Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 16:46
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Never followed Grunge when it came out (probably too old to appreciate the movement) - although if it succeeded in cutting down those generic hair-rock bands from LA etc. It did a bit of good. I can listen to the odd track and like much of the bands who survived the initial hype, but have a preference for the post-grunge era, which moved it back to classic rock in many ways. I quite like djent, and I've even seen bands like Animals as Leaders from time to time - but a little does go a long way. Getting through a whole album is a test of endurance. It also has to be purely instrumental for me. Just can't be doing with the rough, growling vocals of bands like Meshuggah - which is a pity - as the instrumental side of them is great. Often bands bring out instrumental only versions of albums, which I can enjoy. ------------- Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 19:16
Grunge was just a ploy by Thrift Shops to get the youth to buy their used, grungy clothes. The only real movement I remember was how low those baggy pants could move down their inelegant arses. (j/k) ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: February 19 2018 at 23:11
| ^Probaly you were too old when Grunge came. Yes, I think also term Grunge might be ridicilous and I donīt also think itīs inventer Mark Arm and also other Seattle musicians take it very serious. More I think itīs the second movement of punk (or the third if you think great garage bands in the begin of sixties, but then it wasnīt as big as seventies and nineties). It really wasnīt just some fashion movement, it was the last big youth musical movement that started from the youth, not any businessmen. Here in Finland was only one band (SubUrban Tribe) that was called Grungeband and I didnīt like that at all. But like in the US, in the end of eighties really great alternative, sort of punkmovement started. There were lots of great bands, many zines and lots of small gigs were played many bands. Nowdays Finland hasnīt really got anything like that. Also there born bands a little later that took influence from Nirvana and others, for example Apulanta who become quite famous. And yes, Finnish youth really wanted so see Nirvana in 1992 in Ruisrock, I was there, although the gig wasnīt the greatest in my life, I havenīt ever seen as much the youth of my age to come to see one gig, also atmosphere was really great. I am really thankful I had opportunity to live a great youth in that time. |
Posted By: TexasKing
Date Posted: February 22 2018 at 05:42
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I honestly think djent sucks. Grunge by a lightyear.
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