Admit it - Sometimes, you just can't go back...
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Topic: Admit it - Sometimes, you just can't go back...
Posted By: Jim Garten
Subject: Admit it - Sometimes, you just can't go back...
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 07:33
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It must have happened to many of us out there who are at a certain age, that for no apparent reason, you remember an album which absolutely blew you away as a youth, but you realise you no longer own it...
...with all the certainty of rose coloured hindsight, you pop onto Amazon, find it there & without hesitation hit that 'buy with one click' button & wait with bated breath and anticipation of getting that buzz again all these years later. The album arrives 
You break several fingernails ripping off the cellophane  then pull out the insert & go through the liner notes that a dim, dark & dusty part of your brain still vaguely remembers & memories of how great that album is come flooding back.
The day drags until you can get to a CD player (face it, we all get stuff delivered to work nowadays, don't we) 
You get to the car, insert the CD, turn up the volume & drive off waiting for that goosebump moment. 
Ah... Eerrrm...
Actually, the album's a pile of s  t isn't it?
Hindsight lied to you, edited out the appalling vocals, out of tune guitar solos, drumwork like someone hitting a tin bucket with a couple of sausages and the ill-advised crowd singalong (yes, in my case, it's usually live albums  ).
Back onto Amazon they go - usually at a loss & with a promise you'll not get hoaxed by your memory again. Until next time. ++++++++++ So this thread is for all you oldies out there who went back to a previously loved album, only to find that 30 odd years later they not only don't cut the mustard, but barely get to the larder. I'll start with my most recent (and to be honest, the inspiration for this thread): Blackfoot's 1982 live opus 'Highway Song' Guys - just say no. ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 07:49
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Jim, I started a week of nightshift three nights ago, and I decided `I know! Every night, I'm going to listen to every Queen album in order'. Queen was the band that actually got me into prog well over twenty years ago now.
So I anxiously put on the debut `Queen 1', and.....felt kind of deflated. It wasn't that it was bad at all, it just reminded me...well, why I stopped listening to those Queen albums after overdosing on them all that time ago in the first place. I was simply sick of it, and I've discovered far more exciting things in the meantime. So my plans to carry on the Queen marathon have kind of ground to a halt right at the start. I wouldn't dream of getting rid of them, they're far too important to me. But I know what you mean....sometimes it's best just to have fond memories and lock those tight in a box in your past! 
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 07:54
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Recently, I was stuck in traffic, with my friend driving, and he had the radio on (I always listen to a CD or mp3 player when I drive). On comes a succession of "classic" 90s alternative hits. Most of these I didn't like to begin with, or just hadn't heard before, but then a song by Nirvana comes on, "In Bloom". I was never the biggest Nirvana fan, but I REALLY loved that song back in the day. I probably hadn't heard it in a few years, and I was saddened to realize that on this particular occasion, I realized I hated the song and the band. It just grated on my ears and I could hardly stand it. Damn you, Kurt Cobain. At that moment it seemed to drive home to me what a complete waste my life had been in the 1990s, and it depressed me greatly. This is what I listened to? Fk me. Or maybe I was just in a bad mood because of the traffic. In any event, I took my Nirvana CDs off my shelf to make more room for stuff I might actually listen to again. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 07:57
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Michael - I was considering mentioning Queen. I was a huge fan of them in the 80s, but nowadays they just don't have the same "zing" for me as they used to. I still like them in small doses, and the first album which you mentioned is actually one of the few I still like all the way through.
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 08:06
Although I own all their discs, it's more or less only the first 7 or 8 that I'd realy bother with these days, Steve. I'll probably quickly move on to `Queen 2' (THE album that got me into prog) and `Sheer Heart Attack' and see what happens. However, I have a more worrying Queen confession to make. I looked at my CD of `Hot Space' a few days ago and thought `Hmmmm, wouldn't mind giving that one a listen again....' What the HELL is wrong with me?!  I must be coming down with a fever or something!
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HolyMoly wrote:Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 08:58
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I cannot think of one, all the oldies I half remember or those that were borrowed from friends but never purchased at the time that I've since bought on CD have been refreshingly satisfying to hear again. There have even been a few that left me non-plus'd at the time that I rather enjoy now. If pushed I could say Stray's Suicide because some of the tracks are a bit too soft for a hard rock band, but I think I thought that at the time anyway and I'd imaging quite a few people bought it for the stonking title track alone, and they were always a better band live than in the studio.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 09:10
Revisited this recently on Spotify. suffice to say I liked it more when I was 16 |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 09:46
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Actually, Alan, I still quite like that... -------------
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:04
Oh yeah, me too. Stranglehold is still good but the rest of it is just ok.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:04
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I saw Edward Nugget back in 1976 - I can't say I enjoyed it... at all. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:21
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It has happened, but it is not the norm for me. I have been revisiting a lot of the music of youth recently and I've been loving it. Been buying lots of BOC, Judas Priest, Triumph, Dio, Moodies, some punk stuff, on and on and on.....and I'm having a blast. Occasionally I come across one that doesn't do it for me but many of these purchases have been so much fun. One band that I've been unable to get back into in a big way is the Doors. That ship has sailed for me. I love select tracks like Crystal Ship, Love Street, Texas Radio....but much of the rest I can't be bothered to play. Good topic Jim ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:33
I saw him on the night Elvis died. Probably the loudest gig I've ever been to, we had to shut ourselves in the toilet to stop our ears bleeding. And he did a "trick" of smashing a glass ball with feedback
 (or was that Sammy Hagar, I forget). |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:49
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Saw him on the Scream Dream tour (1979?) - a real cult of personality
Damn this spell-check -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Prog 74
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 10:55
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I had a similar moment recently when I bought some of the Beatles remasters and a couple of Bob Dylan albums too. I used to absolutely love this stuff, but instead of being blown away by "Sgt Peppers" and "Blonde on "Blonde" I actually got a little...bored. They do nothing for me now. Maybe I listened to these albums way too many times back in the day so they will now forever be stale, but I don't know. I understand that they are "great" and "important", but I get nothing new out of them anymore. A shame. There's a few Led Zeppelin albums I can no longer listen to either. So sad. |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 11:02
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I'm quite fortunate in that I've never suffered from "familiarity breeds contempt" overplaying of anything, so for example I don't understand people who say they cannot listen to Dark Side of the Moon any more because Money gets played so much on the radio (!) - if there is something I cannot stand to listen too and will throw a brick at the radio to silence them (Pimply Red, Dyer Straights, The Smiffs) it's because I never liked them anyway. ------------- What? |
Posted By: poeghost
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 18:31
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HolyMoly's post made me think of one. I used to like Nirvana back in the 90s and these days I can hardly stand to listen to them. Too noisy and grating. The only songs I like by them are the softer ones like "All Apologies" or "Jesus Doesn't Want Me For A Sunbeam". I got rid of some Nirvana cassettes already, but will probably get rid of the CDs and records too. Another group that I actually loved a while back but not crazy about anymore is Black Sabbath. I still like them somewhat, but find them to be too slow, depressing and boring these days. Most of what I listened to as a kid I enjoy hearing again. I've been having fun recording my 45s to listen to on the stereo, computer or MP3 player. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 18:52
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Switchfoot, Relient K, Hawk Nelson, Building 429, yada yada. Radiohead, Sigur Ros, Yes and TMV astounded me when I was a wee 11 years old, and I quickly jumped ship and never went back (aside from listening to a couple Switchfoot tracks now and then; they were the band that inspired me to start creating music seriously and will probably always hold a certain sentimental value). TMV hasn't stayed with me quite as much, but Radiohead is still my favorite band, and I've only grown to like Sigur Ros and Yes more.
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 19:10
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^^ I almost regret for being so into Nirvana for a certain (young) period of my life. Looking back I honestly wonder how I could listen to this pile of uninspired, heartless music (sorry Kurt, it's true). Very interesting topic. I don't think that has happened to me actually. |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:02
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Hehe yeah hehe Nirvana's music is a grating pile of crap hehe worse then the Bee Gees |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:19
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Guns n Roses - Appetite for Destruction
Ozzy - Blizzard of Oz Both bore me to tears now. ------------- Ian Host of the Post-Avant Jazzcore Happy Hour on Progrock.com https://podcasts.progrock.com/post-avant-jazzcore-happy-hour/ |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:22
| I have recently had a fear that if I succumb to recent urges and buy the first two Dio albums, I'll be highly disappointed. I know it would be true for almost any Ozzy record after Ultimate Sin. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:28
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David I really enjoyed buying those first two Dios again, esp if you like HH and Mob Rules still. I'll take them over the solo Oz stuff. What I'm wondering is if I dare venture further into the next 3 or so Dio albums..... Some people say they're still pretty good, others not so much. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:39
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Ah yes, Sacred Heart ... yeah it's hit & miss, I stopped buying his stuff after that. But c'mon, Diary is one of the greats !! |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:45
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I remember the Sacred tour with the dragon head. Ronnie so enjoyed performing. Maybe I'll add Diary or Blizzard to the re-visit list. Been a long time. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 22:51
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Blizzard I can see being a let down, but Diary is magnificent; try listening to it as a prog album |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 23:00
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oh and Jim, try to get the original mix with Rudy Sarzo and Tommy Aldridge, the later remix is a mockery-- I think Ozzy just didn't like the drum/bass sound but he ended up doing rock history a huge disservice. Luckily the original is still available used. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 23:02
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You mean Daisley and Kerslake? will do, I'll try it again sometime! ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 28 2014 at 23:06
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^ yes that is what I mean, and I always always forget that |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 03:05
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Didn't Ozzy re-re-release the albums with the original rhythm section?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 03:15
| I think there was a 2011 issue |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 06:28
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Kudos to the OP for his honesty. Old men like us forget don't they? Can't say I ever suffered any really spectacular attacks of nostalgia for something that never occurred in the first place but, Judie Tzuke, Doll by Doll, Tender Lugers, Fire Engines, OMD, Microdisney, Haircut 100 and (gulp) Enya were short lived dalliances. Blame it on the boogie.. ------------- 
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 07:13
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My vote goes for Finntroll, now that folk metal is almost only listened to by Neo-Nazis and people from former Soviet Republics I have no idea what the hell I liked about that band in the first place. Except a couple of songs of their that are more serious in tone, they've got zero appeal beyond the novelty of hearing people combine black metal with polka. Their newer records are supposedly less goofy, though, but how's that an achievement? ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Prog 74
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 08:26
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Agree with the comments about Nirvana (and actually all grunge rock for that matter). I was in high school when grunge was popular and loved it, but now it justs sounds awful. If punk rock was angry, grunge was just plain whiny. Also, agree with the comments about Ozzy & Dio. I've always liked their early solo albums (ironically both of which came after leaving the same band), but when I tried to listen to Holy Diver recently it just left me cold. Still like Diary of a Madman, but Blizzard of Ozz not so much.
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 10:37
I thought that Dream Evil was good too...but both albums are of their time. I do highly recommend Lock Up The Wolves, although it may not be to everyone's tastes I love it. I saw him play live on that tour. Sadly for his musicians, the opening act was Yngwie Malmsteen. After the guitar solos from Yngwie, the solos from Dio's guitarist seemed kind of silly. That being said the overall performance of Dio was awesome.------------- 
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Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 10:46
| Van Halen 1st through Fair Warning seems boring-didn't consider anything after Fair Warning listenable back in the day anyway, Led Zeppelin 1st,II-just can't get into it anymore...Any Ozzy after Bark At The Moon seems boring to me now.Although i did listen to VH Women And Children First recently & it did bring back alot of good memories. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 11:25
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Ouch! Van Halen are the band of my youth. What would be the point of going on living if I were to find Van Halen's music boring.
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Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 11:46
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: March 29 2014 at 13:04
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Martha & The Muffins - Cannot undate the 80's tag- trapped! - Danseparc especially Someone also mentioned Haircut 100!! - Too true  And I struggle with Howard Jones - Human's Lib - loved that growing up, again I think the 80's tag for someone reason traps it. ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 02:43
Oh man - how many times have I been that close to doing exactly that, eh?? I played those albums to death when they first came out, but even with the great memories, I'm still convinced that's what they should stay - memories. -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 02:45
Ah - Microdisney were one thing, but Fatima Mansions? there was a band! -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 04:39
But Jim how can you resist the poet that is Ronnie James Dio - We're a ship without a storm - I'm getting teary |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 04:47
Yeah, I feel that way about GnR. I liked AFD when it came out. I thought it was the best album out that year, by the time I'd seen them live the following year I considered them one of the worst bands on the planet. Axl Rose is among my most disliked singers and rock personalities. I still like Blizzard of Oz though.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 05:05
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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: March 31 2014 at 11:48
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I also think I'm getting more and more allergic to anything that gets too far the wrong end of the high/low culture spectrum when it comes to not just music, but art in general, as I get older. Even though I'm fully aware the borders are often drawn along rather daft lines. Maybe it's just a result of the social circles I move in being more elitist than they used to, or some kind of psychological defense mechanism against me feeling less and less satisfied with my life. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: April 01 2014 at 13:20
| It's people feeling jaded and it's perfectly normal as they age, but you can also shine the light on the occasional fine experience you feel from listening to something you grew up with...and only..depending upon your personal mindset. There are days I would hate The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway, but if I were in the right mood...it would be the perfect balance. If your father played with Benny Goodman during the Swing band era ..you might have to approach him with questions of interest about icon innovative Jazz musicians on a specific day where he is in the right mood because he is 95 years old and doesn't wish to re-live his past in conversation. Socially this nightmare of psychological twists and turns cements itself into the lives of people as they age. So in that sense it is self explanatory as to why it often occurs with people's musical tastes. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: April 01 2014 at 13:28
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I went through a hip hop stage back when I was around 20. Wu Tang, Dre, Arrested Development, Q-tip, Snoop, Busta and loads more. I recently started diving back into those cds expecting to cringe and throw myself at the stop key, yet that's not at all what happened. I actually found new faves on the albums and am now seriously pondering whether I should start buying more of these 'Yo' records. As for music I have a hard time returning to.........hmmmm.........maybe the Grease soundtrack? I loved that one back when I was 7 Pop it on now and watch this cat flee in horror (although the opening cut isn't too shabby).------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: April 01 2014 at 13:59
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For me it come in waves, suddently im tired of all the new albums, and i
listen to the music i loved back then, but as the first post mention,
as fun and great it sometimes is, just as often its a disapointment and i
dont know how i could love it back then. But then maby 1/2 a year later
i try the same album again, and now it clicks. I sure if this song was not full of sweet memories, it would not mean much to me, but it reminds me of so much fun and stuff from my youth. ------------- Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours |
Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: April 01 2014 at 15:26
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Back in the late 80s I got into industrial music, with Skinny Puppy being one of my favorites. Listening to them recently for the first time in ages, a lot of there stuff hasn't aged well for me, including my once beloved VIVIsectIV. Lots of B-movie samples over rather dated sounding drum machines. I can handle the songs with some semblance of melody, but the more experimental stuff sounded a lot cooler back then, not so much today. |
Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: April 01 2014 at 15:43
Getting bored to Dio's first two albums is just not a possibility David. Now that note about Diary of a Madman and prog  (just listen to that title track...) |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 17:22
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SRCs_first_album.jpg" rel="nofollow -
I was a fan of these at college so a few years back I bought them on cd and have to say they didn't sound as good as they did in 1969.
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Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 21:35
Dio is the worst lyricist in rock history. Great voice, utter travesty with the rhyming. Everything has got to bloody rhyme all the time, even a mime sucking lime. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 21:52
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Does anyone listen to Dio for the lyrics? The more I think about this topic's premise, the more I disagree. I have revisited a ton of "old" albums over the last year and have had SO much fun. I have been blasting these albums on my commute and on the treadmill, the albums almost making these chores bearable. Yes there have been a few disappointments...but had I resisted the urge I would have missed out on some great fun. Taking chances is half the fun of being a music fan. I'm wondering about The Tubes....should I revisit that one? ------------- https://www.youtube.com/shorts/sQD8uhpWXCw" rel="nofollow - It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood...Road Rage Edition |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 22:17
You're right, of course. The stuff one listens to as a youth sticks with you, at least for me. I still listen to most of the bands I loved in my early teens. Oh sure, there are some bands I don't care to hear anymore. Off hand, Grand Funk and Uriah Heep come to mind; but even then if a song like "Footstompin' Music" or "Look at Yourself" should happen to come on, I'll certainly listen. Hell, I even listened to Aerosmith's Get Your Wings the other day. It's still a pretty damn good album. Blasphemy, I know.  EDIT: And no, no one listens to Dio for the lyrics. How many Rainbow and Sabbath tunes would be ruined if you actually paid attention to the lyrical content?
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 22:33
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When it comes to Ronnie James, he's a genius when you're seventeen, a
good rock singer when you're thirty, and by the time you hit forty he's
a funny little man with thinning hair and a puerile interest in the
occult. But Finny is also correct, much stuff I still think is great: Sabbath, Maiden, VH, etc. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: April 02 2014 at 22:39
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Struggle with some Renaissance, especially the early 80's stuff like Camera Camera. That just seems too cheesy to make a 40 minute listen. ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: April 04 2014 at 06:06
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 04 2014 at 06:20
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Mean Street kicks ass, all VH through 1984 is excellent, I even like the first three Sammy albums |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: April 04 2014 at 06:51
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There's a bloody Fleetwood Mac song, Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow, that sh*ts me to tears every time I hear it. Takes me right back to the back garden of my friend-at-the-time's 21st back in '93. Too many dodgy folks and dodgy drugs, and I hear that damn song often at work so I can never escape the dodginess of that period in my life.
f**k Fleetwood Mac...............f**k acid.......... |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 05 2014 at 04:27
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Concerning the lyrics of the late Ronnie James Dio, I really like the Rainbow albums he was on, can enjoy his tenure in Black Sabbath
even if it doesn't have a patch on the first six with Ozzy Osbourne but
his solo output I find hit-and-miss. It doesn't help that around Last in Line or so he fell back on in his lyrics using the same metaphors over and over. Really, I think RJD's a good example of how overtly cryptic or muddled lyrics can be saved by a passionate enough vocal performance (though sometimes not even then)... I'm not quite sure on their own what they mean, but the way he sings them at least adds some direction that way. Very few lyrics in rock music can stand up to scrutiny outside the wider context of the song they're part of anyway, and I don't think they're written with that in mind more than a few rare cases. (Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Patti Smith etc) Somewhat back on topic: I can't help but think it's a mixed blessing I'm becoming so elitist with regards to the arts. On one hand, if there are fewer entertainment options I consider valid it means choosing which to spend my time on is a lot easier. On the other, I can't help but feel that if things continue like this it'll become near-on impossible for me to actually enjoy or at least be genuinely impressed by something in the future. (especially considering if old favourites become cases of diminishing returns) ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 07 2014 at 09:49
The discussion on Dio made me get back to Holy Diver after a long time.  I agree with Toaster Mantis, Dio sings so well he makes the lyrics irrelevant. Maybe that will change by the time I am old enough for this thread, who knows. I barely like any Ozzy solo apart from a few tracks on the Rhoads albums but then I find his voice pretty hard to endure. It was ok as long as it was the seminal Sabbath albums he was singing on but no further than that for me.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 07 2014 at 11:30
Damn these Dio discussions - just went on to Amazon & very nearly got caught... then I saw how Amazon describe him:
That stopped me! -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 07 2014 at 14:29
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Stargazer will always sound great to me even the cheesy over the top lyrics My boss dragged me along to a Dio gig in Camden Town albout 10 years ago on the pretext he was going to perform a bunch of Rainbow songs... he didn't I can't think of anything to fit this thread. I loved The Sweet when I was a kid and I still love their best material. Give Us A Wink stands the test of time for me. Queen I sort of got bored with very quickly although they were almost as good as The Sweet on a good day |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 07 2014 at 19:18
What, they thought all shorties like Dio are downtrodden?
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Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: April 07 2014 at 19:21
| I've got Dio cranked as i speak & loving it,really teleporting me back in time. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 08 2014 at 02:49
Absolutely - Stargazer/Light In The Black was the highpoint for me of Rainbow's studio output; Dio's responsible for some absolute stone cold classics, but my point is when you look back, you only remember the real classic songs. It's not just Dio (far from it - I just used him as an example of leaving his albums in my past with 30 year old rose coloured specs to prevent disappointment), but you know how it is with that album you remember when maybe a little tiddly & within reach of Amazon's 'buy with one click' button - when the purchase arrives, the classic riffs inside your head then get joined to the less than classic filler tracks & the ill judged attempt at a commercial single. The classic drum fills you remember reveal themselves to actually sound like a pile of saucepans being played by your granny with knitting needles & that killer moog solo now sounds like someone drowning a duck in custard... -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: April 08 2014 at 03:09
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Yeah, you gotta admit much of his solo output is pretty ropey. I remember reading a review for The Last in Line arguing convincingly for it being the source of every stereotype people have about "generic '80s metal". (I'm not actually persuaded though) ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 08 2014 at 03:36
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when you get a moment Jim, I'd love your recipe for Custard-drowned Duck
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: April 08 2014 at 10:01
It kind of did slip into a generic 80s metal rut. Maybe more on the NWOBHM side of things, which meant it was still listenable but by Sacred Heart it got very repetitive. It was ok for Dio to reprise the formula of the two Sabbath albums for Holy Diver but he really needed to get a move on thereafter.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: April 14 2014 at 07:07
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I used to own a Vanilla Fudge album in my youth (don't remember which one) and I had a listen to some of their stuff on Spotify the other day.
All I can say is
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: April 14 2014 at 07:23
Call me an old faeces cataloging buffoon if you like, but would a Moog solo where the duck was spared it's unedifying creme patissiere demise, resemble a normal Moog solo? -------------
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 14 2014 at 08:08
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 16 2014 at 02:55
An interesting question. Think of one of the best moog solos you can (most of Mr Wakeman's oevre should suffice in this case, but I'd recommend in particular the 1972 live coda of Starship Trooper) - this is a prime example of said waterfowl not only escaping said demise, but actively enjoying a pleasant swim in a nice warm bowl of creme anglais. Now think of the closing section of ELP's 'Lucky Man'* Dead duck. *the most un-necessary & overblown moog solo in history where even Carl Palmer gets bored halfway through, stops playing & buggers off down the pub -------------
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Posted By: TODDLER
Date Posted: April 16 2014 at 10:47
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: April 16 2014 at 11:18
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Dream Theater: Metropolis pt 2 through octavarium. Can never understand what I loved so much about that stuff, can't stand it anymore. The albums before that I still listen to seldomly but in small doses. Same thing goes for Rush... do not like them anymore I used to get such a rush ( ) from that stuff... what happened? And I'm not even going to try to mention stuff I liked before the progaissance------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ramza1316" rel="nofollow - www.last.fm/user/ramza1316 https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845" rel="nofollow - https://open.spotify.com/user/1211221845 |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: April 16 2014 at 11:24
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I took the pee out of ELP a couple of posts above, but to be honest, I used to love all their stuff, couldn't get enough of it, but now...?
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: April 16 2014 at 11:57
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The first 2 ELP albums are the only ones I can still listen to with a straight face (and I still love Tarkus). Virtuosity and outrageous keyboard sounds just don't impress me like they used to. I've always felt a little bad about never being a fan of the Vanilla Fudge. Seeing Johnny's post above made me feel a little better about myself. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |