post-70s Symphonic bands
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Topic: post-70s Symphonic bands
Posted By: Stool Man
Subject: post-70s Symphonic bands
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 04:56
This is not about symphonic bands continuing after the 70s, this is about symphonic bands that first formed after the 70s.
I know I've omitted quite a few,but hey. I'll add them in "other" spaces as and when you suggest them
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Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 05:16
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 06:52
White Willow
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Posted By: Olape
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 07:08
Discipline, just above Bacamarte and Anglagard.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 07:10
The Flower Kings gets my vote.
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 07:27
Just known the last album from Willowglass - The Dream Harbour and enjoyed it, Andrew Marshall is a talented composer who found his own style, interesting that he managed to release a whole only instrumental album. I think zravkapt should have also included another worth mentioning album from 2013: Unreal City - La Crudelta Di Aprile, this is really another nice example of a original blend of the modern with 70's symphonic style.
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 07:29
sleeper wrote:
White Willow
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White Willow has an interesting soundscape but i felt them excessively folk for me to enjoy them better, maybe beacuse i knew only the albums Ignus Factus and Storm Season, from which i only care for "Sally Left" and "The Withering Of The Boughs" (this from Ignus Factus).
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 07:36
From the list I'll vote Bacamarte but I'd like to mention Amenophis and Terpandre, both superb and highly recommended for any symphonic fan.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 08:22
only Anglagard does much for me
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 08:23
1. Anglagard 2. Moon Safari
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 08:25
Some good bands, but Discipline is uncontested here, the more because Echolyn has not entered the field yet.
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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 08:39
Anglagard for me. Great band.
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Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 08:58
Anglagard
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 09:23
Sagichim wrote:
From the list I'll vote Bacamarte but I'd like to mention Amenophis and Terpandre, both superb and highly recommended for any symphonic fan.
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Amenophis' "Notre Dame Tres Honorable" and "Venus" are the ones i enjoyed from their debut album, is there any others you'd suggest me ? Have you already listened to their brand new 2014 album "Time"?
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 10:20
Anglagard
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 11:46
I'm voting other for Kotebel.
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 11:51
Never was into any of these. Probably about time, though, that I give Anglagard another chance.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 12:19
Rick Robson wrote:
sleeper wrote:
White Willow
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White Willow has an interesting soundscape but i felt them excessively folk for me to enjoy them better, maybe beacuse i knew only the albums Ignus Factus and Storm Season, from which i only care for "Sally Left" and "The Withering Of The Boughs" (this from Ignus Factus). |
They're certainly very folky on the first two albums, Ignis Fatuus The Withering of the Boughs is an excellent song BTW) and Ex Tenebris, but it's much more balanced on Sacrament and there's virtually no folk at all on Storm Season. Signal to Noise is a bit more Neo Prog in tone and Terminal Twilight is an exceptional Symph Prog album, evoking the classics without sounding like any of them.
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Posted By: Neo-Romantic
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 12:22
Between Anglagard and Discipline. I personally like their stuff better than most of their 70s ancestors. Hmm... this is tough! If pressed... Anglagard overall, but Discipline has the best individual album with Unfolded Like Staircase. That album is perfect to my ears and sits in my top 5 for sure.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 12:44
Änglagård over Discipline over The Beard.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 13:34
The Flower Kings
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Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 13:40
The Flower Kings, then Willowglass. Anglagard is way too overrated
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 14:05
Does 3 Monks count?
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 15:45
Anglagard is not my cup of tea. I like Flower Kings and Spock's Beard. But in the last years I discovered Willowglass which sounds perfect. I have the album Book of hours, just excellent, so I vote for it. Other symph bands that I like are Rocket Scientists and Par LInd Project.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 15:48
Three Monks are categorised as RPI but I would be be happy for them to be included
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Par Lindh Project Ars Nova (the Japanese band) Glass Hammer
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 16:01
richardh wrote:
Three Monks are categorised as RPI but I would be be happy for them to be included
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Par Lindh Project Ars Nova (the Japanese band) Glass Hammer
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Yes! Glass Hammer and Ars Nova are really good symph bands too.
Another ones that I have listened and like could be
Grand Stand Echolyn Isildurs Bane Karmakanic
and the brasilian Aether and the argentinians Nexus and Laquesis, the three of them great bands.
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 16:55
The Flower Kings by a hair over SB.
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 18:09
genbanks wrote:
Anglagard is not my cup of tea. I like Flower Kings and Spock's Beard. But in the last years I discovered Willowglass which sounds perfect. I have the album Book of hours, just excellent, so I vote for it. Other symph bands that I like are Rocket Scientists and Par LInd Project. |
Have you already listened to Willowglass - The Dream Harbour? It's another nice album from 2013, an all instrumental album which features an Andrew Marshall's original style. I didn't listened yet to Book of Hours, is it only instrumental too? I haven't never heard about the brasilian Aether though.
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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 19:32
richardh wrote:
Three Monks are categorised as RPI but I would be be happy for them to be includedalso Par Lindh Project Ars Nova (the Japanese band) Glass Hammer
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 22:52
Of that list Spocks Beard......
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 23 2014 at 22:59
Big Big Train or Tangent.
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 04:57
Horizons wrote:
Big Big Train or Tangent. |
Big Big Train are listed as Crossover, Tangent are listed as Eclectic. They would otherwise both have been in the poll
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 10:57
Stool Man wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Big Big Train or Tangent. |
Big Big Train are listed as Crossover, Tangent are listed as Eclectic. They would otherwise both have been in the poll |
I know they are - but they're symphonic. As much as any of these on the list.
Crossover is a joke for BBT and i suppose Eclectic works for Tangent, but their style of Eclectic is nothing really different bands like Echolyn.
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:17
Horizons wrote:
......... their style of Eclectic ......... |
Style of eclectic? Is there another definition of eclectic that I wasn't aware of? How can there be a style of eclectic?
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:23
Stool Man wrote:
Horizons wrote:
......... their style of Eclectic ......... |
Style of eclectic? Is there another definition of eclectic that I wasn't aware of? How can there be a style of eclectic? |
sounds funny but I think that I understand what Horizons is trying to say. Inside the Eclectic genre, there is different directions in which the genre develop itself, and that the way in which The tangent does it is not much different than the one in some bands which are into the Symph genre like Echolyn. I agree with this...
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:27
ah rightio then
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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:29
Rick Robson wrote:
genbanks wrote:
Anglagard is not my cup of tea. I like Flower Kings and Spock's Beard. But in the last years I discovered Willowglass which sounds perfect. I have the album Book of hours, just excellent, so I vote for it. Other symph bands that I like are Rocket Scientists and Par LInd Project. |
Have you already listened to Willowglass - The Dream Harbour? It's another nice album from 2013, an all instrumental album which features an Andrew Marshall's original style. I didn't listened yet to Book of Hours, is it only instrumental too? I haven't never heard about the brasilian Aether though. |
I listened something from this album and sounds great too. Book of Hours is all instrumental too, but sounds really enigmatic, melacholic and a bit medieval, is almost perfect. The title song for example is stunning.
About Aether, I have their second and last album Inner Voyages between our shadows. It is pure symphonic rock, in a vein of Camel I could say (not exactly), some tracks instrumental some tracks with some lyrics. The song Forgiveness, for example, is simply amazing. They sing in english.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 14:38
Horizons wrote:
Stool Man wrote:
Horizons wrote:
Big Big Train or Tangent. |
Big Big Train are listed as Crossover, Tangent are listed as Eclectic. They would otherwise both have been in the poll |
I know they are - but they're symphonic. As much as any of these on the list.
Crossover is a joke for BBT and i suppose Eclectic works for Tangent, but their style of Eclectic is nothing really different bands like Echolyn. |
Totally agree about BBT. Could be 'neo' at a push but how on earth did they get stuck in Crossover??!
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 15:04
Stool Man wrote:
Horizons wrote:
......... their style of Eclectic ......... |
Style of eclectic? Is there another definition of eclectic that I wasn't aware of? How can there be a style of eclectic? |
Somehow i don't see Beardfish, Van der Graaf Generator, Steve Hackett, and Motorpsycho as all having the same style.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 15:24
Neo is a kind of crossover.
I agree about The Tangent. I used to be on the Eclectic team and questioned whether it best belonged in that category. While it has some eclectic qualities (that's typical of Prog), the material I heard leaned to Symph. Ah well, categories are just a rough guide and the behearer can classify music as they like.
I agree about there being styles of Eclectic Prog, and that played a factor in how I evaluated music. There is no one style, there are lots of styles to be found in eclectic. Part of that depends on what genres are crossed and also what bands they can be compared to. Some are more unique than others. I tened to like the RIO/ Avant-oriented Eclectic ones best. My favourite album in Eclectic, by the way, is Jean-Claude Vannier's L'enfant assassin des mouches which has psyche qualities, but also symphonic and avant-garde qualities.
Sometimes you're analytically ticking off boxes to say that a band crosses one Prog category-styled music with another and another (and deciding that it doesn't lean to any one category enough so that it's deemed suitable for the mishmash prog category), but you're also referencing it with bands in categories. I don't know how many times I heard one and thought, hmm this has a particular Crimsonesque style, and that swayed me.
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 15:26
Thanks for the supportive post, Logan.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 15:59
Supportive it was, yes, but mostly I use earlier comments as a springboard to go off on Tangents while boring myself and everyone else silly.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: April 24 2014 at 17:46
Some discord in what styles of prog eclectic and symph even covers......and I agree on a number of bands.
For instance I have always thought of White Willow as symphonic in nature (with some eclectic and prog folk mixed )and IQ as symphonic even though they and others have been placed in 'neo-prog' what ever the hell that is.
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Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: April 25 2014 at 05:09
Spock's Beard but I really had no idea that symphonic prog existed post '79. Which reminds me, Wobbler could be one of the others. Maybe Transatlantic? Anekdoten? Bit not of my world as they sound too much like their influences (from what I've heard). Mostly Autumn perhaps (with the DG worshipping guitarist) and that other band based around PF's Echoes? Probably wrong sub-sub-sub genre. My fault.
Oh well, too bad, never mind.
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: April 25 2014 at 08:56
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: April 26 2014 at 03:49
dr wu23 wrote:
Some discord in what styles of prog eclectic and symph even covers......and I agree on a number of bands.
For instance I have always thought of White Willow as symphonic in nature (with some eclectic and prog folk mixed )and IQ as symphonic even though they and others have been placed in 'neo-prog' what ever the hell that is.
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symphonic and 'neo' can crossover admittedly. IQ's first proper album Tales From The Lush Attic is really symphonic and probably Marillion's as well yet their second albums I feel fully established a newer prog style that was distinct and different to say early Genesis. So that was the birth of 'neo' in my eyes but then its changed over the years when you think of albums like Marbles and Pallas - Dreams Of Men. Its more about when the bands started than trying to pin down the exact style although this gets very confusing when you think of a band like Big Big Train who could comfortably fall into more than one camp (but that doesn't make them 'crossover' though )
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: April 26 2014 at 10:05
I like everything here, but I'll vote for Discipline.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: April 26 2014 at 10:46
I'll go with Discipline. I have one FK and one SB, but they never caught on with me. The rest I don't know.
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