Crime Of The Century OR The Raven That Refused...
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Topic: Crime Of The Century OR The Raven That Refused...
Posted By: Xonty
Subject: Crime Of The Century OR The Raven That Refused...
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 12:56
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These 2 are constantly switching as the top "crossover prog" album, so I thought I'd see what you guys think. Currently, both have just short of 1000 ratings and are at 4.34 and 4.33. Both are incredible pieces of songwriting, and definitely progressive, but personally I'd go for Supertramp - just love every second, and each song keeps the standard on there so high. Anyway, thanks for any feedback 
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 13:04
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Not really a fair comparison from my own point of view. I've been an avid admirer of that Supertramp album for most of my long life, while the Wilson album has only been a part of my life for a year or so. Naturally, the Tramp has had more time to sink in. But the Wilson is an excellent work whose stature will hopefully not diminish with time. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 14:05
| Very hard. Supertramp has a bit more 'soul' so I voted for that but both are easily 5 star masterpieces in my book. |
Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 14:32
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Supertramp +1
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 14:44
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Easily The Raven. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: HemispheresOfXanadu
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 14:48
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The one that most incites lust, greed and glory. ------------- https://twitter.com/ProgFollower" rel="nofollow - @ProgFollower on Twitter. Tweet me muzak. |
Posted By: mrtngrnm
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 14:51
| Supertramp +1 |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 14:57
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Crime by a country mile!! IMO it is a perfecrt album that sounds fresh and crystalline to this day. I'm one of the few that doesn't think Raven is a masterpiece, oh well. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 15:16
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That face on wislon album is probably behind the bars in Crime covrr :o -------------  
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Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 15:47
This FTW. Tramp for me as well.
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HemispheresOfXanadu wrote:Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 16:30
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Steven Wilson by a margin. ------------- 
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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 22:07
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The Raven flies high over Supertramp, and that's not a crime. Although I enjoy Supertramp, they're too radio-friendly and pop-oriented to rank on the same level as Steven Wilson, one of the true musical visionariesof this century. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 22:18
| I do think Supertramp was more radio friendly and pop oriented even before Genesis went down that path--- |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 22:20
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Supertramp easily in an unfair poll. The Raven is an astonishing prog epic too though. ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: May 07 2014 at 23:46
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I grew up with Crime ot the Century as a teenager in the 70's. (An album that I enjoy a lot.)
The Raven by a very large margin. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 08 2014 at 00:02
| Raven........... |
Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: May 08 2014 at 09:12
| Raven by millions... |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: May 08 2014 at 09:34
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love both but have to go with Supertramp
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: May 08 2014 at 09:36
Sometimes a radio-friendly and pop-oriented album ranks higher than many "virtuousism-oriented" prog albums i've happened to know in the PA Forum. -------------  "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: May 08 2014 at 14:17
| A strange comparison...but the poll is there, so...I prefer Crime of the century, beyond The Raven is really good too. But Supertramp has some stunning prog tracks there, prog and catchy sometimes. School, Rudy, Bloody well right, Crime of the century, etc. |
Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: May 08 2014 at 14:26
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I can't stand Supertramp holy god. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 08 2014 at 14:29
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Crime of the Century for me. Very fond memories of that, especially School and Dreamer. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: May 08 2014 at 20:14
Supertramp Crime of the Century------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: May 09 2014 at 00:59
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Raven, but I've only heard the entire CotC once, so perhaps that's not fair...
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: May 09 2014 at 01:16
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The Raven That Refused To Sing.
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 09 2014 at 13:40
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Crime, easily. ------------- |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: May 10 2014 at 14:32
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never heard "Raven", but i did hear alot of Crime of the Century lately, which i now think is fantastic, so that gets my vote ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: bloodnarfer
Date Posted: May 10 2014 at 18:08
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Both are great, but I'd sooner reach for Crime of the Century, which has a pretty cool feel to it. For some reason I just don't connect well with the Raven even though its obviously very well composed.
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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: May 10 2014 at 18:26
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UPDATE: "Crime of the Century" now has exactly 1000 ratings on its page while "The Raven" is just 11 short of it. congrats, Supertramp! lol Also, Mike Oldfield's "Ommadawn" has the same rating as "Crime" with a 4.34 rating as of late, but that could still change, though. ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: May 10 2014 at 20:11
The Raven is a very good album, particularly in these latter, degenerate days.  But Crime is a classic, and superb from start to finish. Bloody well right! ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 10 2014 at 20:21
| Talk about chalk and cheese - I really enjoy Crime Of The Century, but Raven blows me out - with the track 'Luminol' alone...... |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: May 10 2014 at 20:22
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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: May 11 2014 at 02:56
| There are many albums that I've absolutely hated at first, but that have grown on me in time and even come to be among the most treasured albums in my collection.. safe to say that hasn't happened with Supertramp yet, but you never know.. you always get another chance. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: May 16 2014 at 06:07
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Steven Wilson - The Raven That Refused To Sing (2013) for me but it hasnt got a show against the classic COTC ------------- 
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