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Topic: Yes releases excerpt from new album
Posted By: Master of Time
Subject: Yes releases excerpt from new album
Date Posted: June 13 2014 at 23:22
http://yesheavenandearth.com/

The full song can be purchased on iTunes.

Jon Davison on  Believe Again

The lyrical theme of Believe Again touches on self-discovery, developing the awareness of collective unity, and the comfort acquired by possessing faith. The song is a call to embrace the concept that no matter how far we may go astray from our higher purpose, it’s never too late to find redemption in the reality of divine love that is the undercurrent of all existence. We become aware of this sacred flow by stilling our minds and hearts through such practices as affirmation and meditation – the ‘empty space’ referred to in the lyric.




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Posted By: dragonflight
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 05:18
Cool. Sounds good from such a small sample but as a wannabe fantasy artist, I was more interested in seeing how the artwork was developed.

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 06:30
Not that impressed to be honest, I'll need to hear more of the album before I think about buying it.


Posted By: Ixtlan
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 07:42
Sounds like hokey crap, to be honest.


Posted By: JD
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 08:01
Not the most compelling clip to use if they wanted to stir real enthusiasm for the release. I'm more interested in what the Live From Manitcore Hall (Emerson/Lake) album will sound like. Anyone know if it's a live or studio recording? http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=45595" rel="nofollow -

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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 08:43
Fantastic track!
Notice that it's already available on Spotify.

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 08:58
I like the song---been listening to it several times---wish it had got a little more crazy at some point in the instrumental part----and I feel like all Yes of the past 20 years---too much singing and not enough hot instrumental breaks.Tongue


Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 13:04
Mmmmmm.........I will not judge on the first listen of a part track, but not particularly impressed.

Judgement suspended until official releaseErmm


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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 13:18
Yes really lost my interest when they contracted commercialitis many years ago.

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Posted By: dave-the-rave
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 13:25
Originally posted by Ixtlan Ixtlan wrote:

Sounds like hokey crap, to be honest.


What he said.


Posted By: PabstRibbon
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 16:32
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

Not the most compelling clip to use if they wanted to stir real enthusiasm for the release. I'm more interested in what the Live From Manitcore Hall (Emerson/Lake) album will sound like. Anyone know if it's a live or studio recording? http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=45595" rel="nofollow -

It's a live album. In fact I saw this show in Montreal when they were touring. It's basically a duo- keyboards/bass show with some drums sample to fill the void. It was an OK show at best.. The best part was when they played Tarkus and Emerson played with his big synth. I must say that I'm not a big fan of ELP so maybe my opinion is not so accurate haha.


Posted By: Clepsydra
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 16:58
I LIKE it!


Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 18:28
Hmm...I like Davison's lead vocals quite a bit, but Howe seems nearly invisible.  Better than anything from "Fly From Here" in my opinion.  

I'm looking forward to hearing the entire effort, I hope Howe has one last crazy solo left in the bag!!  

Like this one (during Ritual, 1976)....God he was amazing back in the "Relayer" years!!




Posted By: Clepsydra
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 18:33
Great Pict!


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 18:36
^^^Yes no one has played guitar like that in a rock genre --he was amazing--unique and powerful---and agree I sorta like the song but some missed opportunities on playing some crazy stuff.


Posted By: infocat
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 23:30
At least as good as ABWH era.

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Posted By: Coyfs
Date Posted: June 14 2014 at 23:39
Thin. Not impressed, but I really wanted to be blown away, so maybe I've set my sights too high.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 15 2014 at 02:08
It sounds more like Yes should sound like. I like it but then I am primed to like it as I enjoy Davison's contribution to Glass Hammer.


Posted By: melotron98
Date Posted: June 15 2014 at 07:35
Yes' music since 90125 is too commercial for me. I've  listened to this song a few times already and I dont think it superb, but it isnt awful. I still dont know if I will preorder the album but on Wednesday they gonna share next song and then I'll probably decide.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 15 2014 at 08:47
Originally posted by melotron98 melotron98 wrote:

Yes' music since 90125 is too commercial for me. I've  listened to this song a few times already and I dont think it superb, but it isnt awful. I still dont know if I will preorder the album but on Wednesday they gonna share next song and then I'll probably decide.

I was going to wait but next weeks release is by Squire and could be more commercial than thisConfused--who am I kidding, I will buy the album but nothing Yes has done since 1977 has been a great or perfectly satisfying experience for me.


Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: June 15 2014 at 11:42
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Hmm...I like Davison's lead vocals quite a bit, but Howe seems nearly invisible.  Better than anything from "Fly From Here" in my opinion.  

I'm looking forward to hearing the entire effort, I hope Howe has one last crazy solo left in the bag!!  

Like this one (during Ritual, 1976)....God he was amazing back in the "Relayer" years!!


^This.

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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: June 15 2014 at 20:41
i seem to like myself as time goes on, so i am looking forward to hearing it in a live setting when i see them in concert on July 15 at the Warner Theatre in DC, baby! (along with my dad of course as he will be going with me too as his Father's Day present with pizza and VIP tickets included)

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Posted By: altaeria
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 10:19

Could somebody please point me to the radio stations that play "commercial" music resembling post-Drama YES? Thanks.



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 16 2014 at 16:30
Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:


Could somebody please point me to the radio stations that play "commercial" music resembling post-Drama YES? Thanks.


A hint of irony here I suspect. Owner Of A Lonely Heart was played to death but that was it. Yes did try to gain more radio airplay but ultimately it was just the odd track that played. I doubt their radio exposure increased one iota in the 80's (Wonderous Stories and Don't Kill The Whale got plenty of spins on radio in the seventies). All the prog bands had the same experience with the exception of Genesis who did crack it in terms of radio airplay.


Posted By: altaeria
Date Posted: June 17 2014 at 08:18
 
Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:

Could somebody please point me to the radio stations that play "commercial" music resembling post-Drama YES? Thanks.

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

A hint of irony here I suspect. 


Exactly.  
That whole "too commercial" criticism doesn't even make sense anymore. 

Songs like  IT CAN HAPPEN  or  SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM 
seem like eclectic avant garde math rock 
compared to the stuff that actually qualifies as "commercial" nowadays. 

Ermm




Posted By: Ixtlan
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 07:07
We as fans always hold out hope that Yes will find their spirit and rekindle the old days - but it never and WON'T happen. Even the Flower Kings are washed up. Still, there are plenty of bands that carry the ideas and feel of Yes even if not overtly in the music. Such as The Decemberists, Greensky Bluegrass, Papadosio (especially!) carry the torch. Check em out.


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 09:04
oh, would you look at that? the band has another excerpt from Heaven & Earth released, this time it's from The Game, the track that comes after Believe Again. Here's the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhT1wy3jJNQ" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhT1wy3jJNQ


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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 11:53
Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:

 
Originally posted by altaeria altaeria wrote:



<span style="line-height: 1.2;">Could somebody please point me to the radio stations that play "commercial" music resembling post-Drama YES? Thanks.</span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

</span>A hint of irony here I suspect. <span style="line-height: 1.2;">
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Exactly.  
That whole "too commercial" criticism doesn't even make sense anymore.<span style="line-height: 1.2;"> </span>
Songs like  IT CAN HAPPEN  or  SHOCK TO THE SYSTEM 
<span style="line-height: 1.2;">seem like </span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">eclectic avant garde math rock </span>
compared to the stuff that actually qualifies as "commercial" nowadays. 
Ermm


Yes how true is this


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 12:23
Houston we have a problem---possibly with The Game----I don't want to say this--but it sounds like Asia. And that is not cool---and yet inevitable. 


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 14:26
"The Game" sounds ok, better than the other excerpt. Not sure if it has persuaded me to buy it or not though. That bloody black and white Yes logo is headache-inducing!


Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 15:00
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Houston we have a problem---possibly with The Game----I don't want to say this--but it sounds like Asia. And that is not cool---and yet inevitable. 


Yes, at 1:30 duration, it sure does sound like Asia!. There's not even some time left to a progressive breakWink


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 21:15
Now I've heard two songs... or better said, one song and one excerpt, and I'm still not finding much to hope for this album. Still, just one listen and so little of the album is not enough. I will end up buying it, of course. I wasn't able to catch such a strong resemblance to Asia with this last song, but then it should be expected with Downes in the line-up (I still with they had kept Oliver). And even more, even if they had one Asia sounding song that wouldn't necessarily be so bad, as long as they do have the rest of the album essentially prog, and as long as that Asia-ish song is comparable to their strongest material... if they could come up with something of the callibre of "Never Again", that would be wonderful (of course, something like "parallel worlds... etc" would be even better, but then that song is the proggiest Asia ever got, I guess).


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 18 2014 at 21:28
WAYYYYYY too sappy sounding (The Game excerpt) 

Cheesy, spineless, flat. 


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Posted By: earlyprog
Date Posted: June 20 2014 at 12:53
Originally posted by Ixtlan Ixtlan wrote:

We as fans always hold out hope that Yes will find their spirit and rekindle the old days - but it never and WON'T happen. Even the Flower Kings are washed up. Still, there are plenty of bands that carry the ideas and feel of Yes even if not overtly in the music. Such as The Decemberists, Greensky Bluegrass, Papadosio (especially!) carry the torch. Check em out.

I am listening to Druckfarben's recent output Second Sound on Progstreaming and find it very Yes-esque here and there, well more here than there Wink


Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: June 20 2014 at 13:18
Druckfarben make me think of a more progressive 80s Yes, with that 80s production sheen and more hard-edged Yes sound but also more progressive/classical content than Yes of that time period. Good stuff.

Neither of these two snippets fill me with much hope for the new album. The lyrics instead of sounding mystical, like the best Anderson lyrics, sound hokey. And the music sounds a bit too mellow for my tastes. However, only hearing 1:30 minutes each of two songs is hardly enough to judge the whole album on, so I'll just have to wait and see. TBH, I really liked Fly From Here and was hoping for something in a similar vein. Ah well.

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 23 2014 at 16:11
another new song excerpt out--Step Beyond---not sure what to think.


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: June 23 2014 at 16:15
Pass from me.

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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: June 23 2014 at 16:17
LOL

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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: June 23 2014 at 17:47
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

another new song excerpt out--Step Beyond---not sure what to think.

where's the link for that?


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 23 2014 at 17:52
yesheavenandearth.com

the album has a website


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: June 24 2014 at 09:07
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

yesheavenandearth.com

the album has a website

i was already aware of that, but i just saw the video now courtesy of Prog magazine's website, but thx anyway.


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Posted By: infandous
Date Posted: June 24 2014 at 10:01
Well, I don't think Yes has put out much prog at all since ABWH days (and the Keys stuff).  Frankly, I find what I've heard to be little better than Muzak......elevator music.  Sure, Davison does a good job replacing Anderson (he's not really a clone, which is good), but other than that it all sounds tired and listless.  Going through the motions.  It sounds like a bad parody of Yes to me...........or maybe a Starcastle clone Wink

Seriously though, I thought Fly From Here had some decent, if a bit geriatric, material.  So far, this sounds far worse than any of that.  Makes ABWH and The Ladder seem like masterpieces of prog by comparison (and I don't care much for either of those albums).  I had zero expectations for this album, and so far it seems that's exactly what I will get.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 24 2014 at 14:36
Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:

Well, I don't think Yes has put out much prog at all since ABWH days (and the Keys stuff).  Frankly, I find what I've heard to be little better than Muzak......elevator music.  Sure, Davison does a good job replacing Anderson (he's not really a clone, which is good), but other than that it all sounds tired and listless.  Going through the motions.  It sounds like a bad parody of Yes to me...........or maybe a Starcastle clone Wink

Seriously though, I thought Fly From Here had some decent, if a bit geriatric, material.  So far, this sounds far worse than any of that.  Makes ABWH and The Ladder seem like masterpieces of prog by comparison (and I don't care much for either of those albums).  I had zero expectations for this album, and so far it seems that's exactly what I will get.

Can you really draw all that from a few short clips?

I am hopeful about this album. FFH had some strong moments but overall failed to make that big an impression on me. I want something that is big sounding at least even if its a clone.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 24 2014 at 21:30
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by infandous infandous wrote:



Well, I don't think Yes has put out much prog at all since ABWH days (and the Keys stuff).  Frankly, I find what I've heard to be little better than Muzak......elevator music.  Sure, Davison does a good job replacing Anderson (he's not really a clone, which is good), but other than that it all sounds tired and listless.  Going through the motions.  It sounds like a bad parody of Yes to me...........or maybe a Starcastle clone WinkSeriously though, I thought Fly From Here had some decent, if a bit geriatric, material.  So far, this sounds far worse than any of that.  Makes ABWH and The Ladder seem like masterpieces of prog by comparison (and I don't care much for either of those albums).  I had zero expectations for this album, and so far it seems that's exactly what I will get.


Can you really draw all that from a few short clips?
I am hopeful about this album. FFH had some strong moments but overall failed to make that big an impression on me. I want something that is big sounding at least even if its a clone.


I had good expectations for this albums too, but for the bits I've heard I'm rather loosing them. Hopefully I'll be wrong, I guess I'll just have to wait and see. As for Fly from Here, as a whole album it did fail for me, but there were some songs that I found really very beautiful, even if they weren't as proggy as one would like Yes to be, and an important part of that beauty was because of Benoit's voice. We'll just have to see what Davison can do on his part.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 24 2014 at 22:15
I don't expect  much from Yes--on my i phone I have only a few songs from all the albums since the 90's---even fewer songs from the 80's---and of course all the 70's material---and lot's of live stuff---so if I can pull a few songs off this album I will be okay with that---if this album is a dud--guess we can place blame on Davidson as he co-wrote almost all the songs--- I do think what Howe said a few years ago is true---he'd be happy touring with the 70's stuff, that's what most people want to hear---lot's of 70's groups do just that--it is what it is at some point----if they would do a big Relayer tour with original members---who wouldn't pay top dollar to see that? Doing a tour a year with a different classic line-up would make big money for them and I'd release EP's on line from original members too--not full albums---this would be a way for them to age gracefully and  give the fans their best stuff.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 25 2014 at 01:48
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

I don't expect  much from Yes--on my i phone I have only a few songs from all the albums since the 90's---even fewer songs from the 80's---and of course all the 70's material---and lot's of live stuff---so if I can pull a few songs off this album I will be okay with that---if this album is a dud--guess we can place blame on Davidson as he co-wrote almost all the songs--- I do think what Howe said a few years ago is true---he'd be happy touring with the 70's stuff, that's what most people want to hear---lot's of 70's groups do just that--it is what it is at some point----if they would do a big Relayer tour with original members---who wouldn't pay top dollar to see that? Doing a tour a year with a different classic line-up would make big money for them and I'd release EP's on line from original members too--not full albums---this would be a way for them to age gracefully and  give the fans their best stuff.

They have more or less done this recently playing CTTE, The Yes Album and GFTO with 3 of the core members of seventies Yes. You'll never see Moraz back and it looks like the rift between Anderson and Squire/Howe is not going to abate anytime soon. Rick will always do whatever takes his fancy although I think he will concentrate on solo music for the foreseeable future. Bruford has retired of course.

I suspect this will be their last studio album for a while unless it proves a big success. 


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 25 2014 at 09:02
^^yeah I know all that, richard---just giving my take on what they should do---bigger venue's --original players, fewer concerts--making it special---and I know they all hate each other currently but all of them--except Howe--and Bruford-- have said they could work together again in the right venue and project---but I think Howe would come around, maybe.


Posted By: Kazza3
Date Posted: June 25 2014 at 19:10
The album has leaked, for those who want to know.

I'll just say that descriptions of the album as 'eight forgettable mid-tempo ballads' are on the money; there's nothing offensive to the ears, just a very weak album, weak, 'uninspired' songwriting, thin sound, no stand out performances. I'd have to call it the worst album I've heard from them (though I haven't heard Open Your Eyes). It's a shame. Best track is the last one.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: June 25 2014 at 21:46
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

I don't expect  much from Yes--on my i phone I have only a few songs from all the albums since the 90's---even fewer songs from the 80's---and of course all the 70's material---and lot's of live stuff---so if I can pull a few songs off this album I will be okay with that---if this album is a dud--guess we can place blame on Davidson as he co-wrote almost all the songs--- I do think what Howe said a few years ago is true---he'd be happy touring with the 70's stuff, that's what most people want to hear---lot's of 70's groups do just that--it is what it is at some point----if they would do a big Relayer tour with original members---who wouldn't pay top dollar to see that? Doing a tour a year with a different classic line-up would make big money for them and I'd release EP's on line from original members too--not full albums---this would be a way for them to age gracefully and  give the fans their best stuff.

They have more or less done this recently playing CTTE, The Yes Album and GFTO with 3 of the core members of seventies Yes. You'll never see Moraz back and it looks like the rift between Anderson and Squire/Howe is not going to abate anytime soon. Rick will always do whatever takes his fancy although I think he will concentrate on solo music for the foreseeable future. Bruford has retired of course.
I suspect this will be their last studio album for a while unless it proves a big success. 


About Rick, I don't think he'll consider rejoining Yes if Anderson doesn't come back. About Anderson and Squire... yeah, sure their rift is pretty big, but if Squire really wants Anderson back, I guess he could just come around... and the way things are coming, he should start thinking about a way to do just that. And if this new album is meh as I'm afraid it's coming out, I really hope it doesn't become a big success (and actually I doubt it), for then they might just want to continiue in the same path. Still, I really want them to do another album and get it right at last. Somehow, right now I have the feeling that the one that might be capable of writing the best material at this point would be Rick... he released an incredible album last decade (Out There), and some really good songs on the Retro albums, so he might just as well still have it in him if he applies himself again (though somehow he has never been too keen to give the band much of his best songs).


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: June 26 2014 at 01:42
Originally posted by Dellinger Dellinger wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:


Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

I don't expect  much from Yes--on my i phone I have only a few songs from all the albums since the 90's---even fewer songs from the 80's---and of course all the 70's material---and lot's of live stuff---so if I can pull a few songs off this album I will be okay with that---if this album is a dud--guess we can place blame on Davidson as he co-wrote almost all the songs--- I do think what Howe said a few years ago is true---he'd be happy touring with the 70's stuff, that's what most people want to hear---lot's of 70's groups do just that--it is what it is at some point----if they would do a big Relayer tour with original members---who wouldn't pay top dollar to see that? Doing a tour a year with a different classic line-up would make big money for them and I'd release EP's on line from original members too--not full albums---this would be a way for them to age gracefully and  give the fans their best stuff.

They have more or less done this recently playing CTTE, The Yes Album and GFTO with 3 of the core members of seventies Yes. You'll never see Moraz back and it looks like the rift between Anderson and Squire/Howe is not going to abate anytime soon. Rick will always do whatever takes his fancy although I think he will concentrate on solo music for the foreseeable future. Bruford has retired of course.
I suspect this will be their last studio album for a while unless it proves a big success. 


About Rick, I don't think he'll consider rejoining Yes if Anderson doesn't come back. About Anderson and Squire... yeah, sure their rift is pretty big, but if Squire really wants Anderson back, I guess he could just come around... and the way things are coming, he should start thinking about a way to do just that. And if this new album is meh as I'm afraid it's coming out, I really hope it doesn't become a big success (and actually I doubt it), for then they might just want to continiue in the same path. Still, I really want them to do another album and get it right at last. Somehow, right now I have the feeling that the one that might be capable of writing the best material at this point would be Rick... he released an incredible album last decade (Out There), and some really good songs on the Retro albums, so he might just as well still have it in him if he applies himself again (though somehow he has never been too keen to give the band much of his best songs).

I wasn't necessarily thinking 'commercial success'  but rather it receive a good reaction from fans. Just about anything Yes release will sell in reasonable quantities I assume but do they want to keep peddling 'ordinary'. I am still going to reserve judgement. I really didn't like the new Glass Hammer when Davison joined them and as people know they are my favourite modern symph prog band. Davison is a very clever writer and deserves to be taken seriously. Lets just listen to this album properly and give a it a chance. Seems to be too many negative doom merchant type comments at the moment.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 26 2014 at 10:10
there is lot's of  negative doom --but on one site the tide seems to be turing as some who hated the new album are starting to get in to it--go figureSmile----I could see a reunion --- Squire was fishing for backers or promoters in NYC a few years back--Yes on Broadway for  a week with original guys---need a theater for a week and backers---doable but not easy.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: June 26 2014 at 10:40
Originally posted by Kazza3 Kazza3 wrote:

The album has leaked, for those who want to know.



It's on Spotify - listening now.

Edit - although they list the whole album, you can only play the first track. Doesn't sound too bad now I've heard it again.


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: June 26 2014 at 13:24
Too bad Alan White forgot how to be a creative and progressive drummer long ago (even if he can still play back the old stuff of course) and Downes has never done anything better than his work in Drama. Probably it's gonna be a listenable album but I don't expect much excitement. I don't think it's gonna be better than Glass Hammer recent stuff.


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: June 26 2014 at 15:48
^^^think Alan proved he can do creative and progressive on the relatively successful ---Levin Torn White---a few years ago--Yes wants to do simple songs---I think he is doing some nice drumming but production has been not very good. 
I wish he would take some of those poly-rhythmns and put them in a Yes songs--I hear Subway Ways may have some good time signature stuff--haven't heard it.


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 08:06
Read reviews of new album - lots of hate is all I detect and its not pretty reading.

Is the new album THAT bad or are we looking at a hate campaign?


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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 08:16
Scott, there's a lot of snarky smart-arsey comments being thrown around on the net over the disc. I think it's a bit like `tall poppy's syndrome'.

I will be reviewing it once it's out, and that will be after several listens and not based on half a spin of a leaked downloded copy. I hope you'll take the time to give it a fair spin and see how you find it!

Yes may not be the cutting-edge, inventive progressive powerhouse they used to be, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of putting out solid pleasant adult rock music with traces of the old magic all the same.

Yes have nothing left to prove, and they seem like they're going to coast on pleasing prog-lite AOR (for better or worse) as they wind down their career.

Could be worse...they could be putting out covers albums, at least it hasn't come to that yet!


Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 09:05
Sensible comments mate

Yes, I will be giving it a chance once I get hold of it - some really dumb reviews kicking around expecting it to sound like Close to the edge - and that wont be happening now




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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 09:10
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Scott, there's a lot of snarky smart-arsey comments being thrown around on the net over the disc. I think it's a bit like `tall poppy's syndrome'.

I will be reviewing it once it's out, and that will be after several listens and not based on half a spin of a leaked downloded copy. I hope you'll take the time to give it a fair spin and see how you find it!

Yes may not be the cutting-edge, inventive progressive powerhouse they used to be, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of putting out solid pleasant adult rock music with traces of the old magic all the same.

Yes have nothing left to prove, and they seem like they're going to coast on pleasing prog-lite AOR (for better or worse) as they wind down their career.

Could be worse...they could be putting out covers albums, at least it hasn't come to that yet!
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 10:14
Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Scott, there's a lot of snarky smart-arsey comments being thrown around on the net over the disc. I think it's a bit like `tall poppy's syndrome'. 

I will be reviewing it once it's out, and that will be after several listens and not based on half a spin of a leaked downloded copy. I hope you'll take the time to give it a fair spin and see how you find it! 

Yes may not be the cutting-edge, inventive progressive powerhouse they used to be, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of putting out solid pleasant adult rock music with traces of the old magic all the same. 

Yes have nothing left to prove, and they seem like they're going to coast on pleasing prog-lite AOR (for better or worse) as they wind down their career. 

Could be worse...they could be putting out covers albums, at least it hasn't come to that yet! 

Totally agree---after listening to it several times---it has some good things and at least as many solid songs as most Yes albums have had over the past 20 plus years along with some duds. I like it at least as much as FFH and maybe a little more. Plenty of earworms in a lot of the songs. And it is richer than a AOR yeswest sound---it actually has some alternative sounding moments at least to my ears. Guess I've come to expect to only really enjoy about a third of Yes releases, feel lukewarm about a third and not into a third---been true since 1977Big smile


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: July 04 2014 at 20:32
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:


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Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother Aussie-Byrd-Brother wrote:

Scott, there's a lot of snarky smart-arsey comments being thrown around on the net over the disc. I think it's a bit like `tall poppy's syndrome'. I will be reviewing it once it's out, and that will be after several listens and not based on half a spin of a leaked downloded copy. I hope you'll take the time to give it a fair spin and see how you find it! Yes may not be the cutting-edge, inventive progressive powerhouse they used to be, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of putting out solid pleasant adult rock music with traces of the old magic all the same. Yes have nothing left to prove, and they seem like they're going to coast on pleasing prog-lite AOR (for better or worse) as they wind down their career. Could be worse...they could be putting out covers albums, at least it hasn't come to that yet! 
Totally agree---after listening to it several times---it has some good things and at least as many solid songs as most Yes albums have had over the past 20 plus years along with some duds. I like it at least as much as FFH and maybe a little more. Plenty of earworms in a lot of the songs. And it is richer than a AOR yeswest sound---it actually has some alternative sounding moments at least to my ears. Guess I've come to expect to only really enjoy about a third of Yes releases, feel lukewarm about a third and not into a third---been true since 1977Big smile





Yeah, that's kind of the way I enjoy Yes albums too (and actually from many other bands). Except for Fragile and CttE, there are only a few songs I really love from their albums, but those are such great songs that it makes worth getting the albums.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 05 2014 at 02:05
Glad to see a bit of sanity creeping into this threadSmile


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 08 2014 at 18:09
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Kazza3 Kazza3 wrote:

The album has leaked, for those who want to know.



It's on Spotify - listening now.

Edit - although they list the whole album, you can only play the first track. Doesn't sound too bad now I've heard it again.

yeah, i like it too, oh and btw, the 5th is also now on spotify too and not just a sample of it.


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Posted By: cstack3
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 01:01
These are the lyrics for "To Ascend."  These are so awful, it is hard to type them into this reply window!! 

These stink worse than Starcastle's lyrics on "Fountains of Light" (and I was a friend of the band!!)  
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Were you drifting
On a strange tide?
Collecting visions
From the other side?
Caught between day and night
You were stealing moments past hours
of your life
And balancing on
The edge of a knife

Memories of once longer days
They keep on flooding back
The adventurous times when we
traveled life’s road
Though we were often blind
But with a lot more heart
And for each other
Taking the time

On a wing and a prayer
A wounded bird in the hand
With the eyes of a child
Come to understand
I will open the book
Raise the pen
Let it reinvent
My life again
Take me from where I am
As a freed bird
Flies from the hand
To ascend, to ascend

Were you catching
The last train to nowhere?
Playing out scenes
Of dark desert days?
Put it behind you now
Call out those bleak shadows from your mind
And never again
Slip through the cracks

Memories of once longer days
They keep on flooding back
The adventurous times when we
traveled life’s road
Though we were often blind
But with a lot more heart
And for each other
Taking the time

On a wing and a prayer
A wounded bird in the hand
With the eyes of a child
Come to understand
I will open the book
Raise the pen
Let it reinvent
My life again
Take me from where I am
As a freed bird
Flies from the hand
To ascend, to ascend


Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 03:00
Thanks for sharing.

That 5th song available on Spotify (which I listened to this mornig) has a lower tempo than the first one. Seems weaker but I need to take time to completely get in it.


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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 07:15
Originally posted by The-time-is-now The-time-is-now wrote:

Thanks for sharing.

That 5th song available on Spotify (which I listened to this mornig) has a lower tempo than the first one. Seems weaker but I need to take time to completely get in it.

i may need to do the same thing with it myself, too.


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:04
Originally posted by The-time-is-now The-time-is-now wrote:

Thanks for sharing.

That 5th song available on Spotify (which I listened to this mornig) has a lower tempo than the first one. Seems weaker but I need to take time to completely get in it.

I can only see 2 tracks on Spotify, Believe Again and In a World of Our Own. Is it different where you are?


Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:09
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by The-time-is-now The-time-is-now wrote:

Thanks for sharing.

That 5th song available on Spotify (which I listened to this mornig) has a lower tempo than the first one. Seems weaker but I need to take time to completely get in it.

I can only see 2 tracks on Spotify, Believe Again and In a World of Our Own. Is it different where you are?

I see all the tracks, but they're in grey (which means they're not available yet), except for the two mentioned above.

Are you a Premium user ?


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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 09:34
Originally posted by The-time-is-now The-time-is-now wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by The-time-is-now The-time-is-now wrote:

Thanks for sharing.

That 5th song available on Spotify (which I listened to this mornig) has a lower tempo than the first one. Seems weaker but I need to take time to completely get in it.

I can only see 2 tracks on Spotify, Believe Again and In a World of Our Own. Is it different where you are?

I see all the tracks, but they're in grey (which means they're not available yet), except for the two mentioned above.

Are you a Premium user ?

Yes I am. I too can see all the tracks but only the two I mentioned are available. I think I misunderstood your post when you said the "5th song available", I read it that there were 5 songs available when I assume you just meant "In a world of our own" is the 5th track. Embarrassed


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 10:24
I love To Ascend---think it sounds real cool---as far a lyrics go--I like the message but---there are far too many lyrics---some okay some not okay---sorta like JA, except his good lyrics are really good----less lyrics is a good thing because if there are too many, I start to feel like I'm being preached to---which is not a good thing.


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 17:38
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

I love To Ascend---think it sounds real cool---as far a lyrics go--I like the message but---there are far too many lyrics---some okay some not okay---sorta like JA, except his good lyrics are really good----less lyrics is a good thing because if there are too many, I start to feel like I'm being preached to---which is not a good thing.

and sometimes its a less than average thing (The Ancient from TFTO for example).


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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 18:06
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by The-time-is-now The-time-is-now wrote:

Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by The-time-is-now The-time-is-now wrote:

Thanks for sharing.

That 5th song available on Spotify (which I listened to this mornig) has a lower tempo than the first one. Seems weaker but I need to take time to completely get in it.

I can only see 2 tracks on Spotify, Believe Again and In a World of Our Own. Is it different where you are?

I see all the tracks, but they're in grey (which means they're not available yet), except for the two mentioned above.

Are you a Premium user ?

Yes I am. I too can see all the tracks but only the two I mentioned are available. I think I misunderstood your post when you said the "5th song available", I read it that there were 5 songs available when I assume you just meant "In a world of our own" is the 5th track. Embarrassed

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 09 2014 at 19:02
They released two singles, Believe again and In a world of our own--on itunes and Spodify---Spodify doesn't have anything that itunes doesn't have.


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 14 2014 at 18:52
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

They released two singles, Believe again and In a world of our own--on itunes and Spodify---Spodify doesn't have anything that itunes doesn't have.

1. *Spotify

2. don't know if you're interested, but here's a lyric video for In a World of Our Own; song's alright and video was cool:

http://www.muzu.tv/yes/in-a-world-of-our-own-lyrics-video-music-video/2265211/" rel="nofollow - http://www.muzu.tv/yes/in-a-world-of-our-own-lyrics-video-music-video/2265211/


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 14 2014 at 19:31
Thanks Michael---that was great ---it's a real cool song---(also love OTSWOF video afterSmile) ----wish there was a little more love for the new album--because it is a real good record. Michael 


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 17:41
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Thanks Michael---that was great ---it's a real cool song---(also love OTSWOF video afterSmile) ----wish there was a little more love for the new album--because it is a real good record. Michael 

1. OTSWOF?

2. yeah, despite all its apparent cheesiness and stuff, i might still buy it if I have the right amount of money (i actually do at the moment but i plan it for Floyd-related things). and yet there's reviews of this before it was actually released probably because its already on Youtube for some f**king reason (ain't that illegal or something). so yeah, if can't work, then Spotify it is until Christmas maybe.


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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 16 2014 at 18:06
OTSWOF---On The Silent Wings Of Freedom---solo by Squire live. Comes on after new song.
All Yes has some cheesiness ---but I have heard it several times on YouTube and it is growing on me, as I don't expect CTTE or Relayer from these nearly 70 year olds lol. They messed up on the release--this should have been released as soon as it was ready as a download--you can't wait forever in these internet days--leaks everywhere---


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 18 2014 at 07:58
there was that!?! i didn't remember finding that myself, and btw, i liked it already, the studio version anyway. ohhh Squire, lol. unless it was under related videos or something... and as a reminder, the lyric video can now be found on Youtube to make it easier for some of you as i like it more than i used to (thx alot Spotify!!)

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 21 2014 at 02:18
Well its now here properly! Yep it is as dull as dishwater . Would appear that Alan White has been replaced by a rusty old robot while Howe, Squire and Downes phoned in their parts. I'm not sure that Davison can be blamed that much although none of the quality of writing he displayed with Glass Hammer is evident here which is disappointing. However I doubt that Yes set out to make a symphonic prog album and they have succeeded in not doing that perfectly. As a pop album its not terrible but I have to agree that FFH is superior as that at least had some power to it. This is desperately 'drippy'.In that regard it reminds me a little of the last Jon and Vangelis album Page Of Life which felt very tired also.




Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 01:38
I've listened to it properly now (3 times in all) and its quite nice and pleasant. There is nothing to get excited about but its fine as a 'pop' album. Davison does a good job lyrically but I guess some will disagreeSmile


Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 08:34
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I've listened to it properly now (3 times in all) and its quite nice and pleasant. There is nothing to get excited about but its fine as a 'pop' album. Davison does a good job lyrically but I guess some will disagreeSmile

I think it is a solid album --but not really pop-----there are 3 songs that are structured in a Beatle kind of way, one Step Beyond is the weakest song and one The Game is very strong---maybe Supertramp pop---but pop or popular---like music that would be played a lot on the radio?--this is not that. But there are 4 songs that are prog--Believe Again, To Ascend, Light of the Ages and Subway Walls---they are at least as proggy as lot's of things Yes has done over the past 25 years--with maybe the exception of Mind Drive, That, that is and In the Presence of----but as a whole it is a solid listen and fresh sounding---better than lot's of recent Yes albums. And unlike OYE--(which I can't believe has a higher rating on this site, that's crazy) actually sounds like Yes.


Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 08:39
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

  one Step Beyond is the weakest song 

Yes are covering Madness songs now?


Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 08:45
Will be posting a mostly positive review for it very shortly!

Glad to see the more extablished reviewers giving it several listens and being pretty reasonable in their thoughts on it!

I'm working on the theory at the moment that all these new members/1 star reviews are secretly from members of Glass Hammer annoyed that Yes pinched their singer!


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 08:54
I still think it's pretty decent.  Can't believe all the one star reviews....I think they are kinda silly personally given that ones and fives are supposed to be very rare.  I guess I can see two stars for those who find it too syrupy and light weight.  

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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 09:06
The whole album is on Spotify now. Seems to be like the first thing to do is listen to it objectively without comparing it to Close To The Edge etc. 


Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 09:20
Don't you know, fellas? At almost 50 years into their career after helping shape one part of the progressive style, Yes are expected to deliver another `Tales from Topographic Oceans'...


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 09:27
Yep, senior citizens have never managed to compete with their peak band days imo.  That goes for Zeppelins, Floyds, Stones, Sir Pauls, and anyone else you'd like to bring up.  But it is an enjoyable and melodic album with good harmonies and some nicely nuanced playing.  I'm glad they made it and I hope they stop now.  It's a nice end point.


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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 09:32
Yes, very rarely Jim! It joins the list of respectable later works from strong bands!

I'd actually like to hope there's another album from them with Jon D, if just to prove he's free of that new Yes curse of the `One and done' lead vocalists!


Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 09:57
Probably have several more coming....one will be the Anderson reunion?

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Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 10:51
Pah! I'm still waiting for the Trevor Horn reunion album, although granted, Fly From Here was pretty dang close. Still deciding whether or not to buy it now or to put it on hold for awhile. It doesn't sound bad, but it does sound somewhat soft-rockish. Not that I mind soft rock, but from Yes? I dunno. And the reviews have been less than flattering to say the least. Not sure how much of a rush I'm in to give it spins. Certainly don't expect another CTTE, but would have been more than happy with another 90125 or Talk or Fly From Here for that matter.

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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 17:36
im currently listening to the album right now, woohoo!! (maybe??) man, i wish i got a physical copy of it, but, oh well. i don't have enough money anymore....


PLUS, there is now a Heaven & Earth EPK here if u wanna check it out:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JMW29ONinM" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JMW29ONinM


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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 22 2014 at 19:29
Michael, great job with the review, mate.  Spot on!  Thumbs Up

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 01:33
Originally posted by twosteves twosteves wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I've listened to it properly now (3 times in all) and its quite nice and pleasant. There is nothing to get excited about but its fine as a 'pop' album. Davison does a good job lyrically but I guess some will disagreeSmile

I think it is a solid album --but not really pop-----there are 3 songs that are structured in a Beatle kind of way, one Step Beyond is the weakest song and one The Game is very strong---maybe Supertramp pop---but pop or popular---like music that would be played a lot on the radio?--this is not that. But there are 4 songs that are prog--Believe Again, To Ascend, Light of the Ages and Subway Walls---they are at least as proggy as lot's of things Yes has done over the past 25 years--with maybe the exception of Mind Drive, That, that is and In the Presence of----but as a whole it is a solid listen and fresh sounding---better than lot's of recent Yes albums. And unlike OYE--(which I can't believe has a higher rating on this site, that's crazy) actually sounds like Yes.

I suppose I think its 'pop'  because its so lightweight. There are no dynamics whatsoever but I am enjoying it all the same. A lovely sweet album that could easily blow away on a sharp breeze.Smile


Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 08:58
I quite enjoyed my first listen to the new album.

 I saw them live last night and it was an excellent show.  Only song from the new album was the first one, Believe Again, and it sounded good.  First they played all of egdE ot eht esolC and then they played all of Fragile.  Encore consisted of their 2 "hits" from The Yes Album.  All an all a very good show.  Although I must say that AARP should have had a booth there on the grounds. 

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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 09:02
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I quite enjoyed my first listen to the new album.

 I saw them live last night and it was an excellent show.  Although I must say that AARP should have had a booth there on the grounds. 

LOL


Posted By: CosmicVibration
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 09:48

Received the cd from Amazon last night and listened to it on my way to work this morning.  At first impression it’s very nice; nothing spectacular but pleasant.  The recording quality is very good which enhances the listening experience on a quality system.   Unlike Going for the One which is a spectacular album but the SQ sucks.

 Heaven and Earth is definitely worth the $9.99 I paid on Amazon. Thumbs Up



Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 14:42
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Michael, great job with the review, mate.  Spot on!  Thumbs Up


uhhhh.. i wasn't reviewing it mainly because i suck at doing reviews, especially when its typed or written. but hey, i will listen to these tracks separately as well as together another time (as i do alot with new music from bands) to gel in more and more with it. i already like the first and fifth tracks, and i can kinda see what the last track has in store as it is considered as i put it right now the "OtSWoF" of this album.


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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 17:53
Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:


Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Michael, great job with the review, mate.  Spot on!  Thumbs Up


uhhhh.. i wasn't reviewing it mainly because i suck at doing reviews, especially when its typed or written. but hey, i will listen to these tracks separately as well as together another time (as i do alot with new music from bands) to gel in more and more with it. i already like the first and fifth tracks, and i can kinda see what the last track has in store as it is considered as i put it right now the "OtSWoF" of this album.

Actually, Jim was referring to me, Aussie-Byrd-Brother isn't actually my real name...

Thanks Jim, glad you liked it, and glad you and others have appreciated the album for what it is


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: July 23 2014 at 18:32
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

Michael, great job with the review, mate.  Spot on!  Thumbs Up

ahaha, very funny!! Tongue


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Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: July 24 2014 at 02:23
how funny that after listening to this new album, past albums like Union, Big Generator and Talk seems better that we always thought...

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: July 24 2014 at 02:44
I'd like to see all of us, pushing 70 (give or take) and see how energetic and revolutionary we will be.....
Can't expect another Gates Of Delerium anymore. Heck, even Magma give us some tame (but excellent) recording as Felicite Thosz. Can't expect another De Futura at their age.......though they do a decent live rendition these days....
......lets be glad these guys are still a going concern.
Having said, Nik Turner turned out a very special album recently to rival classic Hawkwind (DoReMi through to Warrior At The Edge Of Time in quality) so who knows really..... Can't wait to get my hands on the vinyl issue of Heaven And Earth.



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