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Topic: 2 Albums (Part 6)
Posted By: zravkapt
Subject: 2 Albums (Part 6)
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 00:39
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 00:58
Tubular Bells


Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 01:06
The bells

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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 01:18
This is a very tough choice. I have to think about it. Both albums are masterpieces.

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 01:29
Not a bif fan of Floyd, but I like Dark Side. 


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 05:34
Dark Side easily, Bells has never really grabbed my attention.

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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 05:42
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

Dark Side easily, Bells has never really grabbed my attention.
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Posted By: Mormegil
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 06:04
Both are great, but Floyd by a nose.

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Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 06:08
Dark Side. No contest for me


Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 06:37
DSOTM..but my love for TB has grown over the last few years. It's now on a par with Ommadawn for me..

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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 06:57
Like both but Dark Side is Dark Side


Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 07:33
I like TB, it's a classic, but are you kidding me - easily DSOTM.


Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 08:20
I don't like Dark Side too much (strangely - I've always thought about it as overproduced, cold, pretentious and overall overrated record and years didn't change anything on this) so Tubullar Bells by miles here. If there are Meddle or Wish You Were Here in this poll, my vote would be different for sure.

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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 08:26
uhhhh Dark Side. ADER!!!! but im trying to hear Tubular Bells one of these days as well (EXORCIST!!!!)

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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 09:46
T Bells. I am a PF fan but I never have a good connection! with TDSOTM. Many of peoples said "This is the best" or "Pink Floyd's best album" but ...
T Bells is a great Album. This is a Masterpiece IMO and one of Progressive music refrence . In 2014 one of Prog Rock's professional musicians "Rob Reed" released a album in TB's style and format : Sanctuary. If you listen to this album , you can find "The Value" of TB clearly (IMO). 


Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 09:52
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

This is a very tough choice. I have to think about it. Both albums are masterpieces.


Agreed. I can't decide which one right now.


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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 11:47
Both were very innovative and remain iconic. Generally speaking, I prefer Oldfield over Floyd and that is the way my vote goes today. The albums fall right on either side of a spectrum: TB is played mostly by one person early in his career and has so many rough edges that he wanted to redo ever since it was completed. On the other hand, Dark Side, which has its share of spontaneity within it, is so carefully executed it can be considered perfection.

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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 05 2014 at 21:32
Tubular Bells for me. It has always held a special place in my heart. I love the melodies and I could never believe that one person played and arranged pretty well everything!

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 03:59
Even if I consider myself an Oldfield's fan, Tubular bells is a patchwork of short pieces often connected by sudden transitions, while DSOTM is a consistent concept album without any filler. I like both but The Floyd's is an absolute masterpiece while TB is "just" a great album. 

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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 09:30
Good point but dont forget : TB is a instrumental album. DSOTM's filler (as you said) is lyrics and sound texture. More instruments used in TB and its difficult than DSOTM. I mean filler that you talked about in DSOTM isnt musical filler.
 OOH god please help me to explain my opinion better!! I wish you get my point octopus.


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 09:40
Easy. The Dark Side of the Moon. Incredible album. Oldfield's Tubular Bells doesn't do much for me. Pink Floyd's music always hits me in the gut.

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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 10:29
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Good point but dont forget : TB is a instrumental album. DSOTM's filler (as you said) is lyrics and sound texture. More instruments used in TB and its difficult than DSOTM. I mean filler that you talked about in DSOTM isnt musical filler.
 OOH god please help me to explain my opinion better!! I wish you get my point octopus.
Hi, welcome back !

I think I get your point. I'm not saying that TB has fillers. I have just explained what I think it's its defect, and I think the same of many Oldfield's albums: discontinuity.

Then if we think to how young he was and to the fact that he has composed arranged and played everything in that album it's surely impressive, at least for the 70s when the available technology wasn't like today.
In Oldfield's discography what I personally consider a masterpiece is Song Of Distant Earth, but I also enjoy Platinum and Crisis a lot. The side-long tracks have more continuity. 

I also prefer Incantations to TB, but it's a subjective thing. I'm not saying that it's better or worse, only that I personally like it more.
 



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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 11:02
Tubular Bells is a milestone.

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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 14:35
Originally posted by octopus-4 octopus-4 wrote:

Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Good point but dont forget : TB is a instrumental album. DSOTM's filler (as you said) is lyrics and sound texture. More instruments used in TB and its difficult than DSOTM. I mean filler that you talked about in DSOTM isnt musical filler.
 OOH god please help me to explain my opinion better!! I wish you get my point octopus.
Hi, welcome back !

I think I get your point. I'm not saying that TB has fillers. I have just explained what I think it's its defect, and I think the same of many Oldfield's albums: discontinuity.

Then if we think to how young he was and to the fact that he has composed arranged and played everything in that album it's surely impressive, at least for the 70s when the available technology wasn't like today.
In Oldfield's discography what I personally consider a masterpiece is Song Of Distant Earth, but I also enjoy Platinum and Crisis a lot. The side-long tracks have more continuity. 

I also prefer Incantations to TB, but it's a subjective thing. I'm not saying that it's better or worse, only that I personally like it more.
 


Hi my friend. 
You got my point completely and explain my opinion better than me!! Its Very Interesting : Song of Distant Earth and Crisis and specially Platinum are my fav albums too. Platinum is a masterpiece (IMO).
You right about "Discontinuity" but this "Discontinuity" is one of good elements (IMO) in Mike's albums and I love this kind of "Long time songs" (not epic). Thanks octopus for your time and perfect answer.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 16:04
Just to be awkward I don't regard either as 'essential' particularly. DSOTM needs more instruments while TB is chock full of too much of everything. It took Mike only a year to realise that less is more while Pink Floyd a year later were creating the amazingly broad and beautifull Wish You Were Here. 


Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: August 06 2014 at 17:30
I'm surprised it's as close as it is.LOL Dark Side Of The MoonHeart

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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 09:36
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Just to be awkward I don't regard either as 'essential' particularly. DSOTM needs more instruments while TB is chock full of too much of everything. It took Mike only a year to realise that less is more while Pink Floyd a year later were creating the amazingly broad and beautifull Wish You Were Here. 
100% agree. Excellent point,


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 09:41
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Just to be awkward I don't regard either as 'essential' particularly. DSOTM needs more instruments while TB is chock full of too much of everything. It took Mike only a year to realise that less is more while Pink Floyd a year later were creating the amazingly broad and beautifull Wish You Were Here. 

Dark Side 'needs' more instruments? I whole-heartedly disagree. It's fine just the way it is IMHO. It's guitar, bass, keyboards, and drums plus whatever strange sound-effects were thrown into the mix. Dark Side was a brilliant album made by a group of astonishing musicians.


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Posted By: genbanks
Date Posted: August 07 2014 at 10:08
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Just to be awkward I don't regard either as 'essential' particularly. DSOTM needs more instruments while TB is chock full of too much of everything. It took Mike only a year to realise that less is more while Pink Floyd a year later were creating the amazingly broad and beautifull Wish You Were Here. 

Dark Side 'needs' more instruments? I whole-heartedly disagree. It's fine just the way it is IMHO. It's guitar, bass, keyboards, and drums plus whatever strange sound-effects were thrown into the mix. Dark Side was a brilliant album made by a group of astonishing musicians.

Well, I would like that Dark Side has more "instrumental sections" (not more instruments), but "I would like" not means "it is necesary". Actually in Dark side of the moon, everything is on the right place, and as you say is a brilliant album, and with all the respect for Tubular Bells (great album too) if one of them would a milestone, it is Dark Side of the Moon.


Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 08 2014 at 13:03
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Just to be awkward I don't regard either as 'essential' particularly. DSOTM needs more instruments while TB is chock full of too much of everything. It took Mike only a year to realise that less is more while Pink Floyd a year later were creating the amazingly broad and beautifull Wish You Were Here. 

Dark Side 'needs' more instruments? I whole-heartedly disagree. It's fine just the way it is IMHO. It's guitar, bass, keyboards, and drums plus whatever strange sound-effects were thrown into the mix. Dark Side was a brilliant album made by a group of astonishing musicians.
We compare in this section. This isnt "exclusive" about DSOTM . 


Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 05:53
Dark Side but Tubular Bells pretty underrated on PA (compared to other Mike Oldfield albums) Smile


Posted By: O666
Date Posted: August 09 2014 at 11:00
Originally posted by genbanks genbanks wrote:

Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Just to be awkward I don't regard either as 'essential' particularly. DSOTM needs more instruments while TB is chock full of too much of everything. It took Mike only a year to realise that less is more while Pink Floyd a year later were creating the amazingly broad and beautifull Wish You Were Here. 

Dark Side 'needs' more instruments? I whole-heartedly disagree. It's fine just the way it is IMHO. It's guitar, bass, keyboards, and drums plus whatever strange sound-effects were thrown into the mix. Dark Side was a brilliant album made by a group of astonishing musicians.

Well, I would like that Dark Side has more "instrumental sections" (not more instruments), but "I would like" not means "it is necesary". Actually in Dark side of the moon, everything is on the right place, and as you say is a brilliant album, and with all the respect for Tubular Bells (great album too) if one of them would a milestone, it is Dark Side of the Moon.

Hi. Using more instruments in music cant be a good "measure" for compare or rating (IMO), but how to use these instruments is important. Mike Oldfield's TB is a good example of "Prefect music by using long range of Instruments" (IMO) and we can discuss about that. 


Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: August 12 2014 at 11:28

Mike Oldfield Tubular Bells.



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