Octavarium sounds like Wonderous Stories
Printed From: Progarchives.com
Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Prog Recommendations/Featured albums
Forum Description: Make or seek recommendations and discuss specific prog albums
URL: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=99332
Printed Date: May 03 2024 at 05:23
Software Version: Web Wiz Forums 11.01 - http://www.webwizforums.com
Topic: Octavarium sounds like Wonderous Stories
Posted By: Wheelspawn
Subject: Octavarium sounds like Wonderous Stories
Date Posted: August 15 2014 at 12:31
| Some of you may have made this observation before, but if you listen to the verse in Yes' Wonderous Stories (in the giving of my eyes to see your face, as he spoke my spirit climbed into the sky, etc), it sounds like the second part of DT's Octavarium, Medicate (side effects appear, as my conscience slips away, etc). |
Replies:
Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: August 15 2014 at 12:38
Those Yes guys are such a****les, always ripping people off  |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: August 15 2014 at 12:58
|
hmmmm sarcasm, kind of a son of a bitch in a way. on topic, i haven't heard this epic though i hear really great things on it, some considering it the best DT song, and its sounds interesting that this is the case. by the looks of things, i don't think these lyrics are not to what i expected, but i could be wrong. i think this wasn't the only song that is referenced in its lyrics according to the internet.
------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: August 15 2014 at 13:07
|
"Octavarium"
references a number of progressive rock entities, but I think this is a
coincidence rather than a deliberate reference. I just played the section of "Octarvium" though and worked out the chords and melody. Asus2 / Fmaj7 / F#m / Fmaj7 The melody alternates between the A major scale and the C major scale (due to the Fmaj7). The particular part you are referencing begins on the A note and walks up the C major scale but backs down to the E note. James LaBrie is singing: A (as) B (my) C (con) D (science) E (slips) F (a) E (way). ++++ With "Wonderous Stories," the chords for the relevant section are Dm / A Jon Anderson is singing A (spoke) B (my) C (spir) D (it) E (climbed) F (in) G (to) A (the) A (sky) So yes, the melodies are similar (though not identical), but only because they superimpose the C major scale (over the IV and ii chords, respectively) and resolve back to the key of A. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: Wheelspawn
Date Posted: August 15 2014 at 13:41
| James LaBrie might have been subconsciously influenced by the melody which would have partly resurfaced when writing Octavarium, judging by the fact that DT cites Yes as one of their main influences. |
Posted By: fudgenuts64
Date Posted: August 15 2014 at 16:00
|
Eh, they also ripped off Peter Gabriel :P In that instance, it really is similar though.
------------- 
|
Posted By: zain8500
Date Posted: August 20 2014 at 00:26
| This sound is awesome. |
Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: August 20 2014 at 00:42
Indeed the rip off of Solsbury Hill in Solitary Shell is not a coincidence.
|
fudgenuts64 wrote:Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: August 20 2014 at 04:08
|
Always thought at first listening the song of DT, that before the 4:00 minutes mark the guitar bursting in was a rip off of Yes
------------- Music is the refuge of souls ulcerated by happiness. Emile M. Cioran |
Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: August 20 2014 at 05:32
| I've never cared for that particular DT record, but I'll have to give it another listen; that's quite interesting. |
Posted By: AtomicCrimsonRush
Date Posted: August 20 2014 at 05:53
|
I ironically heard Octavarium today on drive home from work... I didnt consider the Yes classic at all. However the similarity exists but then again there are so many parts that are purely DreaM tHEATER. In any case its a brilliant song and deserves recognition in threads like this one ------------- 
|
Posted By: Metalmarsh89
Date Posted: August 20 2014 at 11:23
|
Sure Octavarium has some similarities to Yes and Pink Floyd. But it sounds more DT than anything else. I'd say that Images and Words is there most Yes attempt. The lyrics seem to be inspired by Jon Anderson. ------------- Want to play mafia? Visit http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com" rel="nofollow - here . |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 22:15
+ 1  ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: September 03 2014 at 00:34
| Funny because that same line you mention ("in the giving of my eyes to see your face...") to me sounds like "run away and hide from everyone..." from The Alan Parson's Project's "don't answer me." I haven't heard the DT track but I'll check it out. |