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Topic: Some Organ Prog Pieces
Posted By: Rick Robson
Subject: Some Organ Prog Pieces
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 21:54
I selected some prog rock compositions in which the organ plays an important role, if not essential, and just one piece for each artist or band. Of course there are many others, for them the option "Other" could not miss in this poll.
 
Anyway I think it's a tough task to choose just one from this list, as I enjoy very much these BIG SEVEN compositions, but my opening vote goes for Rick Wakeman - Judas Iscariot - I get damn stunned by the strenght of this organ melodies!!
 
Here are the YouTube links for the seven selected tracks:
 
Rick Wakeman - Judas Iscariot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCXIzrqG5j8&list=PLvzhMubMjAhg9uifxUoEUnbrvg52GJ5wk&feature=player_detailpage" rel="nofollow -  
Par Lindh Project - The Cathedral
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yZOJoo0JMyY" rel="nofollow - Unfortunately I didn't find the official release YouTube video - the entire piece which is 19:35 min. long., an awesome prog rock piece with an important presence of pipe organ!
 
Le Orme - Collage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h07H9xQ86Yg&feature=player_detailpage" rel="nofollow -  
Emerson, Lake & Palmer - The Great Gates of Kiev & The End
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=to_8kZCQalQ&feature=player_detailpage" rel="nofollow -  
Keith Emerson - The Church
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i1HduUJi7U&feature=player_detailpage" rel="nofollow -  
Three Monks - Profondo Gotico
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL5nTojLC_c&feature=player_detailpage" rel="nofollow -  
Yes - Parallels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ncAk15x0l8Y" rel="nofollow -  


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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 22:40
I don't know many of this, but I do love Judas Iscariot.


Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: August 23 2014 at 23:05
ELP.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 01:07
This ain't easy! I love Wakeman's playing on both "Parallels" (that great solo!) and "Judas Iscariot," and Emerson's theme for The Church is a great jam, too!


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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 01:18
Le Orme, Collage.

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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 01:22
Le Orme for me.

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 01:35
Excellent choices!

I went for Par Lindh just over Rick Wakeman

ELP - Three Fates (Pt1) would be my 'other' option.


Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 07:41
Originally posted by verslibre verslibre wrote:

This ain't easy! I love Wakeman's playing on both "Parallels" (that great solo!) and "Judas Iscariot," and Emerson's theme for The Church is a great jam, too!
 
Yeah nice call, that main theme for "La Chiesa" is amazing too! And I should know this whole Keith Emerson's album tbh, which includes also music composed and arranged by Fabio Pignatelli and performed by Goblin, a band that I still don't know btw although reading pretty much mentions in the forum.
 
But the track The Church I refered to in this selection is another stunning Keith's track from the following album:
 
 
From this album, by now besides The Church I already could afford to listen to Another Frontier too - just another awesome piece of music! , I enjoyed even more this original version than the ELP's Changing States.
 


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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 07:52
Parallels baby!

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Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 10:24
Le Orme.


Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 13:23
Going for Parallels. The organ adds an expansive dimension to the piece, although I prefer how it works in Awaken.

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Posted By: JD
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 20:14
From this list I have to say Emerson's The Church reigns supreme. I would have picked the Three Fates if it had been a choice as it is the Cohbas, the Montecristo of Prog organ tunes.

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 20:18
As I posted before, I don't know enough songs from here to vote... but I do know that I like Judas Iscariot much better than Parallels and The Great Gates of Kiev.


Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: August 24 2014 at 20:19
Oh yeah, and I do like it better than Collage too.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 25 2014 at 00:58
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:


 

From this album, by now besides The Church I already could afford to listen to Another Frontier too - just another awesome piece of music! , I enjoyed even more this original version than the ELP's Changing States.


On that note, I prefer the version of "Romeo & Juliet" (from Black Moon on Changing States, called "Montagues & Capulets."

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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 25 2014 at 02:35
It may be of interest that that album we re-released this year with a much better cover

http://www.cherryred.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=4559" rel="nofollow - http://www.cherryred.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=4559


Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: August 25 2014 at 18:59
^Hey Richardh right on, I think that former album cover indeed rather simplistic if we consider the complexity of the album Changing States.

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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 25 2014 at 19:01
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

It may be of interest that that album we re-released this year with a much better cover
http://www.cherryred.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=4559" rel="nofollow - http://www.cherryred.co.uk/shopexd.asp?id=4559


Yes, it was! So it's no longer necessary to shell out a full head of cabbage for an OOP copy.

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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 01:53



Voted *other* because of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlado_Pravdi%C4%87" rel="nofollow - Vlado Pravdić 's organ playing in this song.


Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 04:20

Jacula - 1972 Tardo pede in magiam versus - 02 Praesentia domini

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP0QYTbK14w



Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 12:03
anything from the recent RESONAXIS album, "La Cathedrale de Strasbourg" by Focus; "Awaken"

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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 12:28
Other. Hugh Banton ...J.S.Bach's Goldberg Variations
and he built the organ himself


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 15:25
Pity no one has voted for Three Monks. Both their albums are worth checking out although probably its hard to pick one stand out piece. I would go for this although nothing wrong with the poll selection




Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 16:37
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Pity no one has voted for Three Monks. Both their albums are worth checking out although probably its hard to pick one stand out piece.


I think a lot of people haven't heard them. This was one tough poll in spite of a handful of choices. My cursor was hovered over "Parallels" for a bit because the organ (and Squire's great bassline) make the song for me.

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 19:00
Originally posted by NutterAlert NutterAlert wrote:

Other. Hugh Banton ...J.S.Bach's Goldberg Variations
and he built the organ himself
 
I'm quite sure Hugh Banton's works must be very interesting and worth checking out. I had not heard of him until reading your reply, so I googled for some YouTube videos but unfortunately could find only the refered J.S.Bach's Goldberg Variations performed by Glenn Gould. To be honest I know quite very little of Bach's, including these refered compositions. And I would like to know your impressions about Hugh Banton's last work: The Planets By Gustav Holst (2007), thanks in advance.


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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 19:04
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Pity no one has voted for Three Monks. Both their albums are worth checking out although probably its hard to pick one stand out piece. I would go for this although nothing wrong with the poll selection


 
I agreee very much with you, although I know almost nothing of Three Monks, only Profondo Gotico and Toccata Neogotica 7, and now damn impressed with Progressive Magdeburg, just incredible how this band can manage to elevate the church organ strenght to its most! 
But after reading your review of "The Legend Of The Holy Circle", I'm thinking about putting first this album in my purchasing list.


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Posted By: ebil0505
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 19:10
Parallels is the one I picked

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 19:19
^I think people wouldn't be disappointed if they gave another chances to the less known artists here - Par Lindh Project is the last BIG GEM I happened to know and soon turned out to be one of my BIG favourites! I would have voted in them as well.

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Posted By: giselle
Date Posted: August 26 2014 at 22:00
Billy Ritchie for many things; but listen to the organ playing in "Cold Sweat" for sheer power......none of the other players mentioned could be anywhere close dynamically....


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: August 27 2014 at 01:13
Originally posted by giselle giselle wrote:

Billy Ritchie for many things; but listen to the organ playing in "Cold Sweat" for sheer power......none of the other players mentioned could be anywhere close dynamically....

May not have been made that clear but the poll is not about Hammond Organ but rather the old traditional Pipe OrganWink


Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 00:49

Le Orme, Collage.



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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 10:41
Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

From this list I have to say Emerson's The Church reigns supreme. I would have picked the Three Fates if it had been a choice as it is the Cohbas, the Montecristo of Prog organ tunes.
3 Fates is excellent and one of my favorites....but then I love the first lp by them....probably my favorite by ELP.

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 20:02
Originally posted by dr wu23 dr wu23 wrote:

Originally posted by JD JD wrote:

From this list I have to say Emerson's The Church reigns supreme. I would have picked the Three Fates if it had been a choice as it is the Cohbas, the Montecristo of Prog organ tunes.
3 Fates is excellent and one of my favorites....but then I love the first lp by them....probably my favorite by ELP.
 
I've been very excited with the music of ELP by the way, just for the record, and every time I listen to The Three Fates I turn out enjoying even more the piano session melody - right on!, this song is stunning too. 
 
However for the purposes of this poll I really regret for not including The Only Way (Hymn), I like a lot the pipe organ playing in this song, and awesome also the entire music!
I think that maybe not many PA Forum members really love this piece, unfortunately...


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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 18 2014 at 05:07

For what I've just been reading, Cherry Five should be mentioned here as well, am I right? Looking forward to knowing this band too, as I'm a huge fan of organ driven music.



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Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: November 18 2014 at 05:38
Parallels!!!

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Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: November 18 2014 at 09:56
Le Orme, Collage


Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: November 19 2014 at 06:30
Voted for "Other," which in this case is Wakeman's organ work on Yes, "Awaken" (GFTO).  "Parallels" would be the close second for me.  It just means that Wakeman's organ work on Going For the One (GFTO) is quite the pinnacle.  In that same year, he put out his solo Rick Wakeman's Criminal Record, using the same Swiss church organ he used for the GFTO tracks.  That was a stellar point in time in Wakeman's phenomenal career...


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 19 2014 at 10:20
Originally posted by prog4evr prog4evr wrote:

Voted for "Other," which in this case is Wakeman's organ work on Yes, "Awaken" (GFTO).  "Parallels" would be the close second for me.  It just means that Wakeman's organ work on Going For the One (GFTO) is quite the pinnacle.  In that same year, he put out his solo Rick Wakeman's Criminal Record, using the same Swiss church organ he used for the GFTO tracks.  That was a stellar point in time in Wakeman's phenomenal career...
 
In total agreement with this statement.


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 19 2014 at 14:23
Not really been mentioned but when Emerson scored the music for Argento's horror film Inferno he did adopt something of an 'RPI approach' on this.




Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 19 2014 at 14:51
^^^Oh, yes, that's a brilliant score. The remaster is an owner.

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 19 2014 at 15:05
^Yeahh just impressive!
 
In other sort of things, just found an impressive organ playing performances that would be worth mentioning to share, mainly when it comes to women not just singing Wink, I think we should give some credits for this incredible blind woman:
 


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Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: November 19 2014 at 15:29
^^^Yeah, Rachel's become well-known among proggers. I had a friend who was there when she was getting into the prog stuff. She's amazing. Just line up a bunch of her YT vids and have a ball! I think she's going to release some original material, too.

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 19 2014 at 18:35
Didn't know Rachel was already that famous.
 
Talking about music for Dario Argento's films I just happened to find an amazing version of a Bach's composition played by Keith Emerson: Prelude 24 (from well tempered clavier), off the album La Chiesa, I would quite easily vote for it on the 'Other' option, even if it is not originally composed by Emerson:
 
 
 


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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 19 2014 at 23:41
Does Hammill's Gog epic count ??? He uses a Harmonium but it sounds intense as.......


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 20 2014 at 01:44
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Didn't know Rachel was already that famous.
 
Talking about music for Dario Argento's films I just happened to find an amazing version of a Bach's composition played by Keith Emerson: Prelude 24 (from well tempered clavier), off the album La Chiesa, I would quite easily vote for it on the 'Other' option, even if it is not originally composed by Emerson:
 
 
 

Yep that's niceClap. love the weird percussion which suits it well



Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: November 22 2014 at 21:16
Voted "Parallels" though every time I heard Yes play this in concert I never heard Wakeman or the organ cuz I was so overwhelmed by Steve Howe:  The whole song was like one continuous solo for him--played on a speed of overdrive and a volume of Eleven!

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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: November 24 2014 at 08:01
It took something to dislodge Parallels here, however The Cathedral just about does that.




Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 24 2014 at 11:31
^I second you thoughts with all my heart!

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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: November 24 2014 at 18:53
Went for the Pictures excerpt. Surprised there's no Jon Lord or Ken Hensley.


Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 01:06
Probably just my funny ways but I always thought the Parallels organ intro was just a tad too prominent for the song, good piece but it may be just a bit...er, big!

Le Orme or ELP then.

ELP.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 01:11
Originally posted by uduwudu uduwudu wrote:

Probably just my funny ways but I always thought the Parallels organ intro was just a tad too prominent for the song, good piece but it may be just a bit...er, big!

Le Orme or ELP then.

ELP.

I can't really think of to many rock/prog songs that have pipe organ at the front. However the thing that I really love about that track is Squire's bass. Probably one of his best riffs.


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 01:56
We now can add Floyd's Autumn '68 !! Rick Wright, man, I never thought he laid his fascinating fingers on a Pipe Organ. Full of surprises, even after his crossing over.........


Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:45
^Well then Celestial Voices would be a better Pink Floyd's 'organ excerpt' to include in my opinion.Big smile

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:49
Don't know in the other Prog Forums, but ELP fans here are scarce indeed - no one ever recalled Promenade as a great organ driven piece that is also worth some honorable mention in this Poll.

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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:58
Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Went for the Pictures excerpt. Surprised there's no Jon Lord or Ken Hensley.
 
Great calls!  But I don't know yet any prog work of the incredible Jon Lord, as for Ken Hensley I've got to know his works as the frontman of Uriah Heep,  as well as his solo works, if you have some suggestions for me I would be grateful indeed.Smile 


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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 18:25
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Don't know in the other Prog Forums, but ELP fans here are scarce indeed - no one ever recalled Promenade as a great organ driven piece that is also worth some honorable mention in this Poll.
That's from what album? Ermm

I really like 'The Three Fates', it's one of my favourite tracks from the first album. Smile


Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 22:27
Originally posted by Meltdowner Meltdowner wrote:

Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Don't know in the other Prog Forums, but ELP fans here are scarce indeed - no one ever recalled Promenade as a great organ driven piece that is also worth some honorable mention in this Poll.
That's from what album? Ermm
Pictures at an Exhibition


Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 23:57
Piccies is INSANE Pipe Organ.
...... And Three Fates.............
But Rick Wright - nicely played as well.
One of my dreams is to churn out some basic chords on a majestic Cathedral Organ........


Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: November 28 2014 at 00:26
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

Went for the Pictures excerpt. Surprised there's no Jon Lord or Ken Hensley.
 
Great calls!  But I don't know yet any prog work of the incredible Jon Lord, as for Ken Hensley I've got to know his works as the frontman of Uriah Heep,  as well as his solo works, if you have some suggestions for me I would be grateful indeed.Smile 
 
Sorry if it was unclear; I meant as players in the respective bands they're known for--"Lazy" and the Made in Europe version of "You Fool No One" for Lord, and "July Morning" for Hensley.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 28 2014 at 01:49
Originally posted by Rick Robson Rick Robson wrote:

Don't know in the other Prog Forums, but ELP fans here are scarce indeed - no one ever recalled Promenade as a great organ driven piece that is also worth some honorable mention in this Poll.

The interesting thing for me is that Keith Emerson uses actual pipe organ on that track yet its live. I assume the Newcastle City Hall had its own pipe organ or perhaps he had one assembled especially for the recording? As a fan I ought to know this. If anyone knows please 'pipe up'Wink


Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 28 2014 at 14:00

Wow Richardh, glad to read about the history of that such an original Pipe Organ! Just checked it out in the Wiki and it's amazing to know that it was built for the city's first dedicated concert venue in 1928, at that concert hall. This organ was described as "A Rolls-Royce" of organs, according to Wikipedia probably the only one still unaltered, as most comparable large organs have been modified, added-to or revoiced.
   
Just the opening track (Promenade) of that amazing ELP's live album was played on this pipe organ istalled in the Newcastle City Hall - suprised to know the importance of this Concert Hall as well, a venue for renowned orchestras and rock bands as well as for celebrity recitals in my greatfather's hometown! Yeah... Newcastle upon Tyne (Tyne the name of the river that crosses it), it is where he came from, sometimes this world looks small indeed!... Wink



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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 01:54
Cheers Rick for the info. I wonder if Keith played Three Fates at the same gig? Would have been a missed opportunity you would think not to have done so.


Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 01:57
Oh and slightly off topic but The Five Bridges Suite was based on Lee Jacksons home town of Newcastle in reference to the bridges that cross the Tyne. Quite impressive they are indeed and a great City. Only been there once but would love to explore it further.


Posted By: Guy Guden
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 04:26
There was a marvelous little album from 1969 by an outfit called Plus, "The Seven Deadly Sins."  They riffed on Bach's Toccata and Fugue in D with lyrics in a rock Gregorian style.  It sounded good on the airwaves, especially around Halloween.


Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 29 2014 at 12:38
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Oh and slightly off topic but The Five Bridges Suite was based on Lee Jacksons home town of Newcastle in reference to the bridges that cross the Tyne. Quite impressive they are indeed and a great City. Only been there once but would love to explore it further.
 
Great to know this too, two of the pioneering prog rock acts connected to Newcastle in such a beautiful way! Btw I ought to buy that The Nice's masterpiece 'The Five Bridges' too! But it would be just fantastic if I bought it right there in that great City and directly autographed by the hands of that great bassist Lee Jackson - What a thrill! What a thrill!, that's what I would say indeed! (well these words are from Karn Evil 9 hahahah). Sometimes is so good to dream isn't it?
   
Thanks a lot Richardh, but who knows, if my dream comes true you are there too?Wink


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 30 2014 at 03:39
That would be 'nice' indeedBig smile



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