Tarkus vs Suppers Ready
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Topic: Tarkus vs Suppers Ready
Posted By: Icarium
Subject: Tarkus vs Suppers Ready
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 15:54
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I don't need more Words to describe these songs or bands, both is soo Incredible songs, i have hard time to breath while listening to them, they affect me physicaly. -------------  
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 15:58
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Supper's Ready, but Tarkus is also a 5-star song in my book. ------------- 
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Posted By: tboyd1802
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 15:59
| Easy call for me, Supper's Ready... |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:03
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Tarkus. I never liked Supper's Ready ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: La nouvelle terre
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:04
| Supper's Ready, very easily. |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:07
| Tarkus |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:11
| Supper |
Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:24
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Supper's Ready no doubt about it, but this isn't to discredit Tarkus. I think a lot of this song. ------------- “Music is enough for a lifetime but a lifetime is not enough for music.” - Sergei Rachmaninov |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:36
| Tarkus |
Posted By: Billy Pilgrim
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:43
| Supper's Ready, Tarkus is alright too. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 16:53
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Tough call. Going with SR ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 17:35
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Both fairly over rated. I'd say Supper has the edge ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 17:56
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tarkus is definitely promising, but where is my "supper" when i need it? ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Sinful
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 18:01
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Are apples better than oranges, is Bach better than Mozart? Really it is not like sports where you have a score to tell you who won the game, or stats that you can say show who is better. If I have to say, It would be Supper time, but that is really based on the power it has live, which seems to be supernatural.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 20:10
| Supper's Ready for me. This song flows wonderfully from beginning to end, and every part of it is really great. Tarkus does have some really awsome parts too... but there are a few bits that just ruin it (the mass part, particularly). |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 20:12
This.
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La nouvelle terre wrote:Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 20:23
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Tarkus is right up there with Close to the Edge as my personal ideal of a prog-epic. Every other prog epic I've heard since then has had to match up to it. Its greatness has been equalled, but not quite surpassed. And then there's Supper's Ready. A real knockout track. Almost frighteningly good. And yet, atop the crowd, Tarkus remains firmly and proudly the victor. So Tarkus. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 20:23
| Tarkus |
Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 21:09
------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 21:27
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I'm not really a huge fan of either track.
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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 22:11
| I like Tarkus a lot but it's really no contest for me. Supper's Ready by a mile. Tarkus has this part maybe half way through that sounds almost funky or something with repetitive organ that lasts about three or four minutes. It just goes on too long and doesn't add much to the track. Also, I don't think Carl Palmer kind of plays it safe and doesn't go too crazy on this track like he does on other albums. Still it's a great track. |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 22:19
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I love both but the slight edge goes to Supper's Ready; especially the Seconds Out version. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 22:21
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Supper's Ready is ear candy. Tarkus gives me a headache. (I could revise that opinion at a later date, since I've only heard the track a dozen times or so. I didn't even like Supper's Ready till the past few years or so... But this is where I am at this moment in time...)
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 23:33
| Of the two "Tarkus" is my favorite. |
Posted By: dr prog
Date Posted: September 01 2014 at 23:48
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The best songs on Tarkus are on Side 2. Bitches crystal is one of my fave ELP songs ------------- All I like is prog related bands beginning late 60's/early 70's. Their music from 1968 - 83 has the composition and sound which will never be beaten. Perfect blend of jazz, classical, folk and rock. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 00:40
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Tarkus. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Kirillov
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 00:58
| If you go down to Willow Farm... |
Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 01:53
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Please, Tarkus is not even in the same league. ------------- And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11 |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 01:53
| both excellent, but for me Tarkus is little above Foxtrot, the absolute ELP masterpiece |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 01:54
Agreed. I can't stand with Supper's Ready. Tarkus is a masterpiece, instead. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 03:08
Supper's Ready. Tarkus has some awesome parts but they don't really fit together for me (feels a bit carefree because of the themes and the rest of the album). Supper's Ready is a little disjointed too but the music is constantly excellent 
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 03:19
| If I could choose the live version of Aquatarkus from Welcome Back My Friends... that would push this in favour of ELP. If we're comparing the studio versions I really cannot split these two, it's a dead heat. |
Posted By: PrognosticMind
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 05:40
Tarkus for Supper!  But really though, Supper's Ready. ------------- "A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous. Got me?" |
Posted By: Libor10
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 08:21
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For me these two aren't comparable. Supper's Ready is fantastic piece. Almost perfect IMO. Apocalypse in 9/8 is something to live for :-) (even after 30 years of listening to it). ELP are ok but nothing more. My vote goes to the milestone of progressive rock - Supper's Ready. ------------- 
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 09:37
| I love both, but Suppers take my vote. |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 10:01
100% agree. Hi svetonio. Your opinion about music is very similar to mine.
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 10:03
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 10:26
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Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 10:39
You right chopper and I think Octopus know that (like me).
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 10:45
Of course . But I have never loved Genesis as a lot of proggers seem to do...I don't listen to Supper's Ready since ages, and I don't think I'll do in the next years, but who knows? Once I didn't like Tangerine Dream and now I'm a fan.------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: O666
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 10:54
| Tangerine Dream is a great band. Specially 74-94 era. I think they are underrated band in PA. |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 13:07
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 13:28
| I have never understood what was so special about Supper's Ready. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 13:52
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Posted By: m2thek
Date Posted: September 02 2014 at 14:23
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I think Tarkus works better as a whole piece than Supper's Ready, but I think the latter is a lot more emotionally resonating, so it gets my vote. ------------- Matt |
Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: September 04 2014 at 20:06
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I like both, but I'll vote for Supper's Ready.
------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: September 04 2014 at 20:11
-------------  "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: September 04 2014 at 20:16
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SR: OK, it is nice, but nothing more.
Tarkus - It's a DYNAMO!! (another ELP dynamo tbp.) ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: September 04 2014 at 21:11
It took me many years to get it, I have to admit. But when it finally clicked: Wow. Just don't give up on it...
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 09:39
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I prefer Suppers Ready. I'm not a huge fan of ELP, but Tarkus is almost a 5 star track.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 12:23
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Tarkus ------------- |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 12:41
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I love both pretty much equally. voted Tarkus just because ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 12:46
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Not a big ELP fan at all, but Tarkus is an amazing piece of music. But the album stinks. Supper's Ready is great, but I don't love it. However, it's on a better album than Tarkus is on. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/MysticBoogy" rel="nofollow - My Last.fm 
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: September 05 2014 at 15:58
| Even though it's being called, I feel it's too close to call (wouldn't want to slight either by picking either). |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: September 06 2014 at 12:29
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Much appreciation for Tarkus but come on... Supper's Ready!
------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Gryphon
Date Posted: September 06 2014 at 12:30
| supper's ready. without a doubt. |
Posted By: Prog Sothoth
Date Posted: September 06 2014 at 12:45
| Tarkus |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 06 2014 at 13:03
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Walking across my sitting-room, will vote for Supper's Ready SR is not my favorite Genesis song, but never liked Tarkus at all. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 07 2014 at 02:12
| Well I voted Tarkus as long as I can have the live version over the slightly bland studio version. Suppers Ready is also marvellous of course |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 07 2014 at 09:55
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I'm a bit surprised Tarkus got 30 votes.....since so many here dislike ELP in general. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: September 07 2014 at 10:33
| Both are equally amazing but supper's more dear to me. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: September 07 2014 at 12:03
+another 1 ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Zenbadger
Date Posted: September 07 2014 at 14:27
| Suppers Ready, no contest! |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 08 2014 at 01:29
Probably a Genesis backlash
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: September 08 2014 at 08:06
I listened to Tarkus (just that track) on the way to pick up a pizza last night. Really nice song and it's too bad they didn't do more long pieces like that and leave all those short mediocre (and silly ones..) songs off their albums.
I have never understood why they felt the need to put those 'beer hall' type tracks on their albums which only ruin the flow of otherwise great recordings. They should have saved all those and did an album of just short oddball tracks for the hardcore fans. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: September 08 2014 at 08:30
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: September 08 2014 at 08:38
You really get ELP's message.------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: September 08 2014 at 08:46
Both  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: September 08 2014 at 15:29
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Tarkus, beyond any doubt! That is in my top 5 of favorite songs of any band anytime! |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: October 22 2014 at 03:28
| Tarkus, especially live (although the opening of the studio version is very thrilling). |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: October 22 2014 at 08:54
| Suppers Ready |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 22 2014 at 10:13
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T A R K U S ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: addictedtoprog
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 12:20
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Another one
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 13:05
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Tarkus is the best track on Tarkus although it's very messy, where Supper's Ready is one of my least favorite tracks on Foxtrot (sounds a bit like Randy Newman wrote a prog epic, and it doesn't keep my attention at all). I'll go for Tarkus, even though I generally prefer Genesis and Foxtrot to ELP and Tarkus. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 13:07
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Suppers Ready
------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 16:40
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SR gets my vote; Tarkus is a good one too, i've gotta admit. ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 16:52
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^ good??? Tarkus... good?? Dude a kiss from a girl is .... good. Tarkus is PROG SEX man... this other piece.... I dare even the Bobblehead brigade to try comparing Supper's Ready to sex.. HAH.. I dare anyone to... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:00
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^ I think I know the analogy you'd make about "Supper's", Micky: That "Supper's" is an unhappily married couple sitting in bed together, ignoring each other and reading boring books. In prog form!
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:01
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^Given all the costumes, it must be S&M. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005  |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:01
amen to THAT!!  well done sir. I just tossed the ball towards the rim... figuring someone would catch it and slam it home. You get the deuce sir... I'm happy to get the assist!! ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:02
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No contest whatsoever. "Tarkus" wins hands down, as in my view it is second only to "Close to the Edge" in terms of everything a true prog epic should be. |
Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:08
Thank you. I do think of "Supper's" as pretty epic, but I know exactly where you're coming from. It took me a bit of time to come to like it, so I know how it can sneak by a listener - it's just so light and quiet! If it loses you, you'll miss everything, and it's its own fault. Very take it or leave it. And "Tarkus" is leagues beyond it.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:46
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Waiting for the day Micky will leave the closet and declare his purest love to Genesis... it always happens when someone is too much concerned about an issue. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:51
As we say in Italian, "he/she who despises something eventually buys it" (chi disprezza compra) .... |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:53
hah. there is no closet that can hold Micky.. since when have I ever shied away from an opinion out of fear of lack of acceptance.. especally here.  I love Genesis... I FULLY admit it.. and always have  Hey.. I did actually go to a New Kids on the Block concert, not of my own free will of course (even then I still had a tattered remnant of a reputation).. my g/f at teh time promised to make my hair stand up straight if I chaperoned her younger sister and her friends into D.C to see the show. and you know what... even THAT was more fun and energetic than listening a damn Genesis prog album hahah ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:54
"Quem desdenha quer comprar" ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 17:57
 ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 18:00
 ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 20:02
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Incredibly, I don't like Tarkus (Not the albuim not the album, not the song) It seems to me a mechanical lack of soul piece of music. Give me Karn Evil 9, give me Hoedown, give me Trilogy, but keep Tarkus aways from me. And about SR, not my favorite Genesis song (Not even fromn Foxtrot, I Stay with Can Utility), but it's light years ahead, pure emotion There's an angel standing in the sun, and he's crying with a loud voice, "This is the Supper of the mighty one", Lord of Lords, King of Kings, Has returned to lead his children home, To take them to the new Jerusalem! -------------
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Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 20:35
Lol--no it's a happily reunited couple who just found love and now are getting fried.
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: December 31 2014 at 20:41
| ^ You're right. I was just putting words for Micky's thoughts. I do love that suite. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 04 2015 at 02:21
Ivan , you and Greg Lake could well be on the same page as he has never been that keen on it either.  Tarkus had a difficult birth as is well known with Lake even threatening to walk out when he heard the initial composition. However Lake added Battlefield and a few other bits and pieces to put his own stamp on it.Talking of Battlefield would you consider that to be lacking in emotion? That guitar solo is something that even someone like Gilmour could be proud of.
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Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: January 09 2015 at 06:55
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Honestly I assume that I really tried quite a bit to get SR's complexity, but as it happens to me wtih some other prog, I admit that it always manages to distract me at some point. But I won't give up trying to feel its emotions and beauties, maybe next year I give it another spin. On the other hand I find Tarkus far more accessible for my orgasmic delight (what in my case happily happens with most of ELP music .)------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Walton Street
Date Posted: January 09 2015 at 07:13
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Supper's Ready .... pure magic ------------- "I know one thing: that I know nothing" - SpongeBob Socrates |
Posted By: brainstormer
Date Posted: January 10 2015 at 19:48
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And in the end, the tally, as always, makes no difference as to what the tune should mean to you. More people like rap/hip hop than both of these tracks =( =) ------------- -- Robert Pearson Regenerative Music http://www.regenerativemusic.net Telical Books http://www.telicalbooks.com ParaMind Brainstorming Software http://www.paramind.net |
Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: January 10 2015 at 21:36
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Both my father and I have always loved Supper's Ready, and I dislike ELP, so I think I know what my choice would be.
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Posted By: Luna
Date Posted: January 10 2015 at 21:43
Some people like both <---------------- ------------- https://aprilmaymarch.bandcamp.com/track/the-badger" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 30 2017 at 10:23
| Tarkus |
Posted By: Darious
Date Posted: September 30 2017 at 10:53
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No need to vote, it's clear to see which one is the winner. ------------- Writing about truth is a little bit like getting your dick out in public and hoping no one laughs (Steve Hogarth) |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: September 30 2017 at 10:59
maybe, but it's still worth discussing. These days I prefer Tarkus to Supper's Ready. Tarkus holds better for me than the Genesis epic which I rarely listen to these days. But then again, I listened to Foxtrot quite a bit since I first listened to it back in mid 90s. These days I just listen to the sort(er) ones on Foxtrot.
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