NO= Independence except in name

Acchh, Jimmy, the Scots, they are a wily bunch !

They'll have to put the prices up to subsidise all the free university places. 

Seeing as I work for a well-known Scottish Bank (at the moment), Friday is going to be interesting.

I also think we should seriously consider compulsory repatriation.

And a permanent ban on bagpipes, tartan and haggis.

No but he signed the Edinburgh Agrement that makes it all legal and possible. That single signature is essentially callmeDave voting on behalf of the entire English, Welsh and Northern Irish population.

I think many British could blame him for having underestimated that a Yes was a real possibility. He was overconfident that come the moment of truth Scots would not dear to split. It seems clear by now that that was a very big error of judgement which can cost a high price to Britain.

You, Sir, have some mighty fine taste

The result is, actually, of little consequence in terms of the high price, because this has been such an almighty cock up on the part of the establishment parties and civil servants.the Lord alone knows what they were thinking when they refused to put devo Max on the ballot paper, and, of course, had to include this latterly as a bribe born of panic to stop the runaway Yes campaign from winning

Whether the Scots vote yes, or no, there will be massive changes to the way this country is run, and, at long last, we might finally see an end to both relentless centralisation, and the shocking Liberal elite who are responsible for dragging us all down over many years now.

Watch out people.....nationalist, libertarian, and anti establishment parties are coming to a location near you soon.....

First of all the question was "Should Cameron resign IF THE YES WILL WIN".

But even if the No will win (which I believe will), there is no question that Cameron never expected the polls to be so tight coming close to the voting day. He had to rush last minute to nearly beg them to stay, something I doubt he never thought he would have to do. So I don't need to know the result to make that assessment, regardless of the result, he made a big error of judgement as confirmed by the polls until yesterday and the last steps he had to take. 

Moreover, if the Yes would win it would mean that he failed to convince the Scots that the London project of state is more attractive and hopeful than the independence project. Reasons enough for me to resign if the Yes would win.

Gerard, you have a decent understanding of British politics.

If it is Yes, Cameron is dead meat. An absolute goner, with no hope of political resurrection whatsoever. The PM (and Tory PM at that) who lost the Union. His party will never forgive him, and neither would the English electorate.

Mind you, his position is pretty damned shaky if, as I believe will happen, the Stay Together lot win by a tight margin. As I said above, this whole campaign, and his tactics, have been an utter mess. Wait until Wales, Northern Ireland, and, especially, English regions start demanding greater devolution to achieve parity with Scotland. Wait until all of the European separatists start demanding more of this, as well, the likes of Catalonia, etc.

The sh*t is about to hit the fan.and the cause?...........weak, ineffectual, positively hopeless leadership from a political and economic system, and leaders, whose number is well and truly up.

I, for one, will not mourn for a second.

How desperate have the Stay Together campaign gotten?

Resurrecting the absolute worst Prime Minister the UK was ever unfortunate enough to be lumbered with to take over their campaign, that's how desperate. Gordon Bloody Brown.

By God..........

In principle, Andy, I support the right of groups of people and "nations" to have self determinations. I have always believed that governance at the lowest possible level is best, and I say this as a career civil servant of many years standing.

When you are talking about the situation in Ukraine, this has been yet another monumental cock up by the people who "lead" us, by wilfully misunderstanding the Russian psyche, history, and, especially, its "glorious leader", a ravenous power seeker, if ever there was one. What has not helped, of course, is the fact that a pile of his cronies and crooks are almost singularly responsible for most of the dirty money entering our capital city and the terrible way property is being priced out of ordinary people's pockets.

I do not, by the way, myself understand why the SNP, or my party, Plaid Cymru, are such ardent Europeans. Why on earth would you want to swap a remote, unaccountable, government for one even more remote, and most certainly a damned sight more unaccountable.

Very strange, and, I think, something that will be a source of huge political and social tension in the new era of politics which is dawning.

It hasn't. Salmond has brilliantly exploited nationalist emotional sentiment, together with the very true question, why be governed by that bunch of w**kers any more?

Mr Minister for House cheese, as a loyal Civil Servant, nothing I say should ever be interpreted as anything other than putting thoughts and theory to you in order to assist with the vital business of policy making and other leadership issues.

Certainly, nothing I say should ever be interpreted as some for of common or garden personal political thought. Oh no.....

The problem is, it is seldom about what the people wants. In the case of East Ukraine it is about the West and Russia fighting for a strategically important piece of land. I don't think neither gives a damn what the people in the region want.

Having said that, I think that by the 21st century people's will should be given enough power as to change what they have been imposed by history and by the acts of their long dead ancestors if they so will.

But as our Cheese friend says, such a change should require a majority of more than 50% and possibly also sustained in time. It can not be that a state can be broken by a conjunctural situation such as an economic crisis or a heated debate. I would say that the result for independence should be confirmed by repeated referendums during a period of say 5 years and with a majority of around 70%.

Yes I think they should be given the right to decide, but as I said the majority should be broad and confirmed in time.

What would be approximately the current support in NI for a reunion with Southern Ireland?

Yes, I have. I see it every bloody day, just as you do. And, no doubt, we would agree that the people who run these local institutions are as big, if not bigger, w**kers than the self serving w**kers at national level. You will have no argument from me there, Dean.

There. Where I suspect we might diverge (I don't know) is the reasons why. As ever, there is no simple answer to that question. However, I am in no doubt that one of the biggest reasons why is that the political system, the media, and the establishment in general have, for years now, taken away, bit by bit by bit, local authorities power, and centralised them, to the extent that councils, in effect, now have to run on an ever diminishing dole by central government, and most legislation is governed nationally.

It is virtually impossible for a local authority to actually physically run anything, and, of course, local council elections are, mainly, contested by the same political parties, and, thus, the same political w**kers, as are the national ones. Indeed, council elections these days are, basically, nothing more than a media beauty contest  in order to judge the (Un)popularity of the ruling party's the day. There is, in effect, absolutely no incentive for the type of innovative and entrepreneurial people you used to get in local government, because they would not be able to do anything.

That is one of the reasons why this referendum has been so important. Whatever happens, Scotland will get more powers. So will English and Welsh regions. What they do with it.........that will be the defining political debate of the next twenty years, IMO of course.

Gerard, Ni does actually have a devolved Assembly, as does Wales, whilst Scotland has a devolved Parliament.

NI has similar powers to the Welsh Assembly, I.e. Over health and education. They cannot, though, raise their own monies through taxation.

As for union with Eire, give it a few years now,when the majority of the population will be Catholic. Then you will get critical mass (pardon the pun)

Indeed, the EUSSR ( ) is becoming more and more another 'socialist paradise' mistake. Contemptible red ideologues who , as Ian Anderson put it so well once long ago, are Living in the Past.  

Easier win than originally touted, so never trust opinion pollsters

Still, 45% is still a sizeable vote for change and disaffection from and with Westminster. In many ways, the interesting politics starts now.

Not Edinburgh, but Glasgow , totally unsurprisingly 

You have a good point here, but it would have shown that a superstate has no right to exist because the peoples that are trapped in it always prefer to govern their own affairs without an elusive superpower imposing some unwelcome rules.

Never mind, the No-camp pulled it off .

...and he's gone.