Pink FLoyd - The Endless River
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Topic: Pink FLoyd - The Endless River
Posted By: Davesax1965
Subject: Pink FLoyd - The Endless River
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 07:41
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- not out yet, I believe. And I have a VERY bad feeling about this. A collection of unreleased material from "The Division Bell". Ummmmm. Well, I can understand why, given the death of Richard Wright, this is being advertised as "The last ever Pink Floyd album", but I'd honestly hoped that they'd go out on a high. Rather than a rehashing of some very old, and unreleased material. Anyone else have any other thoughts ? (Waits for flames and general explosions. ;-) ) ------------- |
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 07:46
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Posted By: Nonsensei
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 09:22
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Although, dr. Stephen Hawking is featuring on that album, so it has to be good.
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 10:08
I am a bit sceptical about the album; just a few thoughts while parts of the album will be released on the web bit by bit from a long time PF fan:
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Nonsensei wrote:Posted By: Vic333
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 10:21
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From what I understand, it's not just a bunch of half finished demos quickly thrown together. The original tracks started as that, then both Dave and Nick went back in and used Richards tracks to build up new songs, including vocals, guitar solos, etc. Not really much different from how other albums are made, except the original material was recorded by someone that can't come in to touch up their parts. However, if a part really didn't work, I'm of the opinion that Dave had a different musician come in and add a few lines as needed. The last couple of PF albums have quite a few musicians on them. This one won't be any different. That being said, I'm not particularly interested just because PF just hasn't interested me much in the last decade.
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Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 10:56
Unreleased material from The Division Bell sessions doesn't necessarily have to be "The Division Bell: Take 2". The new album may end up being quite different, and more to your liking than The Division Bell was. (as long as it's not as long, monotonous and depressing as The Wall) |
Posted By: Darious
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 11:41
I just wanted to say I agree with you totally here ------------- Writing about truth is a little bit like getting your dick out in public and hoping no one laughs (Steve Hogarth) |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 11:48
The only track I've heard close to its entirety is "Louder Than Words." And I think it's better than any track on The Division Bell. May be my favorite Floyd track since "Comfortably Numb" in '79.
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 15:32
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The whole thinking behind the album from Gilmour and Mason is so perfect, its why you release an album. Because you have material that is wonderful and needs to be out for others to enjoy. Sure the buildup to this album is pretty huge right now, the anticipation is thick.....I don't believe it will disappoint. The Division Bell is an amazing album so I can only imagine the material from those sessions are pretty special. -------------   
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Posted By: Evolver
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 15:58
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 16:09
Well, after The Final Cut, and then About Face and Pros and Cons, and then A Momentary Lapse of Reason and Radio Kaos, it was pretty clear that the band members would never top or equal their strong run from Meddle to The Wall. I remember that disappointment - but that was nearly 30 years ago (Momentary Lapse: '87). After accepting that, there have been some pleasant surprises, which include The Division Bell, David Gilmour's mainly-acoustic Live DVD, and On an Island (which is my favorite post-Wall). And I fell instantly in love with the new track "Louder Than Words" from the album; so I don't think I'll be disappointed ;-) Also, has anyone listened to that new Marianne Faithfull track that was written by Roger Waters? Honestly, it's the best thing I've heard from Waters since The Wall as well. Even though he doesn't sing on it, it's so Waters, and so brilliant sounding and perfectly produced (no tacky chorus-line back-up vocals or 80s-sounding drum machines or Beck/Clapton guitars): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHVFarjq-D0" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHVFarjq-D0
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Posted By: aliano
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 16:52
Actually I think his best post-Floyd work is Each Small Candle.That's brilliant imo. |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 17:02
Really? I know I've heard it, but didn't give it much of a listen. I'm intrigued now, and will have to give it another listen...
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 18:20
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Personally, I am looking forward to the new album. It sounds like it has been put together well, and it certainly is not a cashing-in on the death of Wright since that has been several years now. I liked The Division Bell, so that does not raise any red flags for me. I know they are not the same people they were in the 70s so I don't expect them to go full retro. A mostly instrumental Pink Floyd album is something I didn't know I had been waiting decades for. And yes, Each Small Candle is brilliant. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 21:07
Indeed, I love Each Small Candle. It's among my very favourite Waters songs. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 21:11
Actually, I really like The Division Bell... a lot. My thrid favourite, just after WYWH and Animals. However even though Louder than Words is sounding fine enough, I think High Hopes was a much better swansong for the band. I've read that Louder than Words is actually longer than the 4 min version that has been showed already, so luckily the extra minutes it might have could make the difference. |
Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 22:25
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Looking forward to that CD/Blu Ray boxset. I will be buying that. Has the album in 24/96 5.1 mix. Can't say know to that. Love me the Floyd. ;) Also, boxset contains 39min of extra music that is not on original cd release. Again. I'm sold.  ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 22:45
that will be nice -------------
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Posted By: progbethyname
Date Posted: October 10 2014 at 22:57
That it will, but as you know now I LIVE for 24/48 LPCM cause that is the ultimate audio format to experience my analog warm signal with my 800's. god almighty I will not be leaving my house that day when I receive that album. ;) It will officially be Pink Floyd's last work. ------------- Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣 |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: October 17 2014 at 06:56
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But there still is a David Gilmour album shortly on the way, isn't there? I hope that hasn't been dropped. Plus, I really hope Floyd releases live albums from the past. That would be quite a treat. And wasn't there word that Richard Wright had been working on a follow-up album to Broken China? Would be nice if Gilmour and Waters collaborated on those tracks and finished them... (I continue to hold out hope that this won't be the last we hear of Floyd ;-)
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 17 2014 at 22:47
I had also read something about Gilmour working on a new solo album... though now I'm not so sure, perhaps when the information came out it was actually about this Pink Floyd album (also Waters was suposedly working on a new album, but since his reply to people who asked about it, it might not be true). About live albums from the past, I would also love to see some of them coming. I'd love a full live album from the Pre-Dark Side era (perhaps the BBC recordings), I'd love a live album from the Animals tour (and if it were a DVD too it would be just amazing... though almost impossible). I'd love the video release of the original Wall concerts. I'd love some live album from Roger Waters tour with Eric Clapton on guitar (from the Pros and Cons tour). I'd love the a live album from Gilmour's About Face tour (there were some incredible versions of Murder and Near the End). And I guess a live video from the Delicate Sound of Thunder concerts... I'd really love to hear the version of Echoes performed on that tour. And I also knew about Wright working on that album before passing away, and have for years thought it might have been an oportunity for it to end up being a Pink Floyd album if Gilmour wanted to complete it (of course, I have no idea in what state it was left, so perhaps it already included musicians that wouldn't so easily allow the Floyd guys steping in)... and if Waters would work on it it would be great, but if it were only Gilmour I'd be happy enough... perhaps it would be better suited to become a Wright - Gilmour album instead of a Pink Floyd one... or a Wright album - feat David Gilmour. However it might work out, I'd love it to end up being released. |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: October 18 2014 at 01:48
Hah! I think you and I share the same dreams!! I'm getting excited just thinking about it... Oh well, probably some day, in time, most of these will come true... (That live stuff would *have* to emerge, eventually, I'd think...)
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Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: October 18 2014 at 05:51
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We had a couple of live Floyd albums released just three years ago. There's no hurry. Save the old stuff for release in future decades so that fans as-yet unborn will have something new to excite them. We have the Endless River to excite us. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 18 2014 at 09:59
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Grumpy old man alert!! Why didn't Floyd include this with the Division Bell box set reissue?? That would have been awesome! (on vinyl of course)------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: October 18 2014 at 18:19
Hm, because it's a completely new album perhaps? Is there any example in the history of rock music where an artist is hanging a new album on to a rerelease of an older one? Anyway, to Jude and Dellinger; there will be a new Gilmour album next year and he will try to include some of the jams he did with Rick. There's not much recorded though and the rumoured new album that Rick was working on is just that, a rumour. According to his son in law, Guy Prat, he had barely started, there's no material to work on. |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 18 2014 at 19:13
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^This was an outtake from the Division Bell sessions. I guess it's technically new. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: October 18 2014 at 21:22
I disagree. Future generations for the most part won't give a toss about music released in the 70s. Nor should they. They'll be listening to the stuff that's new and relevant for their time and that has an immediacy that speaks to them. So... I hope this stuff comes out soon, before I'm too old to give a toss meself 
Oh wow, thanks for that info! :-)
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 19 2014 at 13:39
I'm not sure how much of it could end up being released. The BBC recordings are a very real possibility, I guess. There's also the Dark Side of the Moon concert that was actually released - kind of - a few years ago, with the re-release of their discography, on the expanded editions of Dark Side and Wish you Were Here (on Dark Side, the whole album on it's live version, and on Wish you Were Here they had Raving and Drooling and You Gotta be Crazy - or Dogs and Sheep -, and I don't remember well, but I think Shine on you Crazy Diamond too). I think between both albums they released almost the whole concert, but they still missed Echoes, which would be great to have too. A live album from the Animals tour I guess would be rather difficult, but a DVD almost impossible. The original Wall concerts on DVD should be rather easy too... but with Waters latest Wall tour and it's release almost being a fact, I somehow don't think he is still planning on releasing the old concerts with Pink Floyd. A concert from Waters Pros and Cons tour doesn't sound much likely to me, though I believe he does have recordings from most of the concert, though only audio, so a DVD would be almost impossilbe too. From Gilmour's About Face, I don't think he is planning on releasing it, but at least it does exist on VHS, so sometime along the road he might re-release it. And actually, from the Delicate Sound of Thunder, I do have a DVD called "Shine On"... it's not a bootleg nor a pirate release, but I wonder how much the band (specially Gilmour) was involved in it's release... I would guess just about not involved at all. It's not got nearly the same care on it's production as the PULSE DVD release, and it's audio/sound quality isn't the best (though it's not bad enough that it ruins any possibility of enjoying it), however, it does NOT include any version of echoes. I believe Gilmour stated at one point he wanted to release oficially a DVD of the Venice concert from that tour, which would be truly amazing (though, still, that concert did not feature Echoes). |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 19 2014 at 14:06
Oh well, it's great to know that... though perhaps a bit disapointing... the bit about Rick's album, for I had expecting at some point it might come out... but at least now I know that's not happening and I cand put the idea and hopes aside. And the Gilmour's album bit is indeed great, and if he is using the jams he did with Wright, that's even better, whatever much he may be able to use... though I would think the available jams aren't so few. I heard 1 or 2 jams, I think, on the "Remember that Night" or "Live in Gdansk" releases, and I understand there were 2 or 3 more, so there's some material to use (though not enough to fill an album, clearly, but he could get some songs out of them). Now that you seem to have been able to get some information that I had been wanting to know for sure, by chance you don't know what's going on with Water's new album? |
Posted By: RoeDent
Date Posted: October 19 2014 at 14:33
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Wikipedia has a running time of 52:46 for The Endless River. That's not a double album! Genesis fit more than that onto the single vinyl of Selling England By the Pound! |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: October 19 2014 at 15:31
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Better sound quality can be achieved with the grooves given more room ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: October 19 2014 at 15:35
If they shouldn't give a toss about it then neither should any of us now. But we do, and they will. What's the difference? ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: October 19 2014 at 16:05
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^I never could but now I can understand the reasons (or maybe couldn't accept them) why at every passing year there are even less people listening to erudite music from 19th and 20th century (for example): "they'll be listening to the stuff that's new and relevant for their time and that has an immediacy that speaks to them." -------------  "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
pittyful!Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: October 20 2014 at 06:45
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I never thought this would happen! I did take the Waters side in the early 90's when I was getting into the band. I'm not bothered about Roger Waters not being involved, he left and he's working on "Homeland" and a movie about his recent tour of "The Wall". I have liked the samples on Pink Floyd's official page. And it was fun catching sites play the unedited for radio version of "Louder Than Words" before Pink Floyd's lawyers took them down! I have got a strong felling I will love this album a lot more than the Pink Floyd products we've had since the 80's. And given the shadows created by Waters, let alone Barrett, then an instrumental album of Pink Floyd sounds so obvious, it's a wonder they never did it sooner. Granted, if it was session man stuff from the "AMLOR" sessions then I'd be really unhappy about it. But it's been so long and I've already gone through the cycles of "It's disappointing" and "Unfinished" to "Not that bad" through "Great" to my current position of "I need to get this album right now!!" And with regards the double album/single CD, for a lot of people the sound quality will be affected by listening to a leak of the album, destroying all their sonic craftwork so painstakingly engineered by the production hands of Pink Floyd. I still hope for their 50th anniversary next year we get a big compilation with "Vegetable Man" etc, but for now, I will take "The Endless River" as the final creative word off Pink Floyd and at this stage in the game, isn't that more than you could ever ask of this project?
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: October 20 2014 at 07:04
^ Nice words! Ordered my 2 LP copy yesterday.  |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 20 2014 at 09:23
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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: October 20 2014 at 10:01
Water's has been talking of his new album for at least ten years now. I believe it when I see it. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 20 2014 at 17:57
I disagree. Future generations for the most part won't give a toss about music released in the 70s. Nor should they. They'll be listening to the stuff that's new and relevant for their time and that has an immediacy that speaks to them. So... I hope this stuff comes out soon, before I'm too old to give a toss meself ^^ Absolute nonsense......the 70's will form as much part of a classical period as does Mozart. Association to music relevant to the present tense is another thing entirely and it does not necessarily yield classical periods. Even some 70's stuff was sh*te but it defs had classical music too.
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Posted By: aglasshouse
Date Posted: October 20 2014 at 19:21
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I feel that the general mood around the Endless River has been positive. At least I think that it's great that they're releasing it. I feel like there is a little too much hostility from the general public on the news that Roger won't be playing on it. You'd think it would be kind of obvious that he wouldn't be.
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 20 2014 at 21:02
Yeah, I know, I believe I read about it... about 10 years ago, actually. Something about a concept of the stories heard by a taxi driver, and something about it being a double album, one CD with songs about war and the other about love. Something about it using the two new songs he was playing during the tour from the early 2000's (Each Small Candle and Flickering Flame... I guess now one could add Leaving Beirut and I don't remember if he has released some other new song, but surely he already has at least enough music for half an album). |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 20 2014 at 21:04
The difference is that I want to be able to hear and enjoy those new releases, if I'm dead, I won't care about them. |
Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: October 21 2014 at 09:29
His latest song is called "If I had Been God" and was played live before a tribunal on Palestine. http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoUG8bXp2CU" rel="nofollow - http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoUG8bXp2CU Errr...yeah.  |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 21 2014 at 09:57
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[QUOTE=SteveG] Grumpy old man alert no. 2!! Why didn't Floyd include this with the Division Bell box set reissue as this is an outtake called The Big Splif ?? That would have been awesome! (on vinyl of course)------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 21 2014 at 11:47
Good point.....I have only heard one track on you tube and I was not impressed. Unless I find a used copy it will not be in my collection. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Xonty
Date Posted: October 21 2014 at 13:32
I've never been a fan of "The Division Bell", so I doubt I'll like the leftover/unused material very much, but either way it'll be great for them to bring out another album. It's a lot better than nothing though, and I'm looking forward to it 
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Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 21 2014 at 14:07
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The Endless River will be around a long time after we have graced this fine earth. Embrace or dismiss either way it is here to stay..................spirit of the water ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 21 2014 at 14:41
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Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: October 21 2014 at 16:52
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Is it too obscene to be talking about sales figures yet? The biggest selling album is Ed Sheeran's "X" album. It sold 182,000 copies in it's first week and has gone on to sell in excess of 634,000 copies.* I reckon "The Endless River" will match 182,000 copies in it's first week! *=According to this http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-official-top-40-biggest-selling-artist-albums-of-2014-so-far-3169/ I reckon it's 435,000 by January UK sales alone.
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Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: October 22 2014 at 20:14
Considering the state of the 'music industry' in general, maybe not: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/none-2014s-music-gone-platinum-4473318" rel="nofollow - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/ampp3d/none-2014s-music-gone-platinum-4473318
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 23 2014 at 09:07
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Pink Floyd take on One Direction in the UK pre-order market...... http://www.music-news.com/shownews.asp?H=Pink-Floyd-take-on-One-Direction-for-most-pre-ordered-album&nItemID=84366" rel="nofollow - http://www.music-news.com/shownews.asp?H=Pink-Floyd-take-on-One-Direction-for-most-pre-ordered-album&nItemID=84366 -------------
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 23 2014 at 21:43
| I was just thinking a bit about what's been revealed from this album, and I feel there's a wasted oportunity I wish that had come to pass. I think Gilmour should have got the collaboration of Steven Wilson on the production, mixing, or whatever he could have helped. Surely Wilson would have been honored, and given how much and well he worked ambient and largely instrumental music with early Porcupine Tree, I would think he could have really contributed nicely to the album. |
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Date Posted: October 23 2014 at 23:59
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Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: October 24 2014 at 09:56
Oh, thanks. I wasn't aware that the link didn't work.  |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: October 24 2014 at 11:41
I am pretty happy with Andy Jackson as the engineer, his work on both Division Bell issues, original and the 2014 reissue, is pretty stellar IMO. Keeping Andy in the mix I think he understands what Pink Floyd wants the final outcome to sound like....He is a two-time Grammy nominee for engineering on Division Bell and Momentary Lapse of Reason. What might be interesting is having SW remix other Pink Floyd albums like Animals, Meddle, AHM... -------------
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Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 24 2014 at 14:25
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^Great idea. Especially with Animals, which always sounded stale to me no matter who remastered it. ------------- This message was brought to you by a proud supporter of the Deep State. |
Posted By: Chris S
Date Posted: October 24 2014 at 15:44
Why would The Floyd need Wilson? For remasters? I think Wilson probs is top dog these days but really Floyd only really ever used Ezrin and Manzanera aint half bad. Floyd more or less always done their own thing. TBH I would rather see Waters collaborate with Wilson but more chance of that happening on the golf course. ------------- ...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 24 2014 at 23:02
Perhaps it would be even better if Steven Wilson were to remix Ummagumma 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 24 2014 at 23:06
Yeah, also a collaboration with Waters would be great... though indeed unlikely - Waters just wants to do his own thing. It would be more likely (and still highly unlikely) that he could end up teaming up with Gilmour. However it were, Wilson and most, or any, part of Porcupine Tree (specially with the first drummer) would work wonderfully with either Waters or Gilmour, I believe they could make some really beautiful music if they got into it. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 25 2014 at 06:23
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I have the VHS of the Venice gig..... .........I thought it was more 'intimate' and realistic, when compared to the Delicate Sound extravaganza. I also have some video footage of a Japan gig around the time of David's first solo album. Pretty cool stuff for sure. I am looking forward to 'The Endless River' like you wouldn't believe. I'm certain it will garner quite high praise....... |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: October 25 2014 at 12:04
Are you sure? Pink Floyd played in Japan in 1971 &1972, then not again until 1988. Gilmour's first album was in 1978, and his second was in 1984. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 25 2014 at 17:10
| ^ Definitely - it's grainy quality, Rick Wills is on bass, - maybe it's not in Japan ?? I haven't watched it for years. I know he does There's No Way Out Of Here. Now I've set myself a project - digging this VHS out...... |
Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: October 25 2014 at 17:38
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This perhaps Ozric? |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 25 2014 at 18:05
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Yep !! That's the one, I'm sure I recall Japanese subtitles on it ??? Just watching this clip, it's much sharper and colourful than I recall, I guess the video I have is umpteen generations old.......this looks like it's from 1984...?? It runs for about a half hour-45 mins thereabouts. |
Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: October 25 2014 at 18:40
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It's a promovid from 1978 for Gilmour's album. Here are the rest of them Note that David's brother Mark plays rythm guitar. I'm curious of what the other songs are, I've ever only see these four. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: October 25 2014 at 19:41
| ^ Maybe it's just these few tracks. I used to get heaps of vids from this guy who manages a 2nd hand record shop. I've soooo many 3hr VHS full to the brim of rare Floyd, Genesis, Yes, even some Hatfield & The North. I haven't watched them for years, but they are in a safe place, well looked after..... |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: October 25 2014 at 20:38
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^I have found out that the track 'There's No Way Out Of Here' was also played in a show recorded live in 1984 (April 30th) at the Hammersmith Odeon, London - however on bass was Mickey Feat. And I found it interesting that Roy Harper was on vocals too in that gig. Never listened to it to be honest, but I'm wondering if it's another 'must-have' Gilmour's release. ------------- "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: silverpot
Date Posted: October 26 2014 at 08:16
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Roy wrote the lyrics to Short and Sweet, so he joined in to sing it. @Ozric; sounds like you have a great collection in your vault. |
Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: October 26 2014 at 08:50
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Wow, thanks for posting those Silverpot, pretty cool stuff. ------------- |
Posted By: SteveG
Date Posted: October 28 2014 at 09:29
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From Mike Portnoy's Facebook page: "What's this about a new Pink Floyd album? The last I checked, Water's was no longer in the band and Wright and Barrett are dead. If these are leftovers from The Division Bell sessions, then just put them on a The Division Bell special-edition release! It's disrespectful to Roger and everything he built for all those years! Just do a solo album, Dave." (also quoted in issue 49 of Prog Magazine) Hmmm, is Mike going to work with Waters in the future? |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: October 28 2014 at 10:54
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Bad feeling... -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: AZF
Date Posted: October 28 2014 at 11:35
Yeah, I've seen a lot of "No Waters, no Pink Floyd" posts myself. As I said a few pages ago, I'd rather have an instrumental album (Or as much instrumental stuff as possible) than the band bussing in other writers to try and match the work Roger did. Besides, Roger left in 1985. It's not his band any more. I do feel from the pre-orders a lot of people might be buying it just to complain "Where is Roger?" and then buy Roger's album (Whenever that gets released) to complain "Where is Gilmour?" I did pick the Roger side in the 90's and I regret it! We're getting a relatively new Pink Floyd album. It'll stand or fall on it's own merits (or lack of) rather than "He should have been in it!".
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 01 2014 at 17:43
| Ooh, The Endless River is already rated 5 stars by 4 folks.......??? |
Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 02 2014 at 10:32
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Hi,
I must be the only person not interested in hte hype!
So much more stuff to get out there and this is not one of the albums I want or need. But I will likely get it. ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 02 2014 at 13:05
Then sod off out of this thread.  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 02 2014 at 14:09
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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 04 2014 at 23:47
| The countdown is on - not long now !!!! |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 08:38
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I'll definitely give it a listen if it gets posted online but the one track I have heard is not all that interesting to me. It seems like most are saying that it's secondary material from the Division Bell sessions... is that true? ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 11:28
According to Gilmour and Mason, The Division Bell was initially to consist of two discs - the first one would be proper songs, and the second disc would be instrumentals. (Bowie/Eno did something like this in the late 70s, with Low and Heroes; I wonder if Floyd had something similar in mind.) At some point during the recording, they gave this up and decided to complete the songs, leaving the instrumentals for another time. When Gilmour and Mason put it thusly, it's hard to think of the new albums as consisting of "secondary material"....
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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 11:35
This MP quote came out a month or so ago....its a dumb post by Portnoy. He needs to realize Waters has had nothing to do with Pink Floyd in what 20+yrs..I think Gilmour stated recently that Waters has not been a factor for that long, something like that, it was a great quote by Gilmour. More Pink Floyd please..... -------------
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Posted By: HolyMoly
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 17:35
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Bring it on. Good or great, i doubt it'll be bad. ------------- My other avatar is a Porsche It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle if it is lightly greased. -Kehlog Albran |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 05 2014 at 17:51
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I read some reviews of the album saying that it sounds more like their early 70's albums, like it's a bad thing: those professional reviewers can have The Wall, I'll have Atom Heart Mother every day |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:07
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Posted By: tomlanesound
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:38
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I'm trying to imitate Pink Floyd and some of their progressive stuff with my music. I'm using a 1976 dynacomp compressor, the same as David Gilmour uses live and an Eric Johnson strat w/tremola bar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gP_b6z6AMTQ&list=UUHGVGthmWoBVt3oHiKvHc6Q
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Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 01:40
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Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 02:59
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Reviews starting to show up: http://ultimateclassicrock.com/pink-floyd-endless-river/" rel="nofollow - http://ultimateclassicrock.com/pink-floyd-endless-river/ I really get the feeling this album will appeal more to us proper PROG ROCK fans, as opposed to the masses of rock music/oldies fans who have no actual idea what prog is. Floyd are so far above `prog-rock' in terms of popularity and exposure. We won't have a problem with it being mostly instrumental, but there's bound to be many confused by the fact that there's only one song with vocals on it. |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 04:57
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Well, most 'casual' fans will know Dark Side, WYWH and The Wall. This album will come as a shock to most of those folks who think its 'cool' to listen to Floyd........ |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 05:40
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......and possibly see what's on the other side of this band moreorless. ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 05:45
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...and possibly a new solo album from David Gilmour in the near future - that is also exciting news. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 06:07
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Yes I caught that too, new Gilmour album as well. His wife is obviously slipping something into the poor guy's breakfast. He hasn't been this productive since the 70s. 2 releases inside a year - maybe a year and a half? Yep...there's some doping involved for sure. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Webwiz
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 07:06
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Got my order of The Box set through, im looking very much forward to its arrival :-) Cheers ------------- http://deeppurplehub.com http://unofficialrecordings.net |
Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 12:57
| So, the album has leaked. I have it on pre-order, so don't judge me too hard for listening to it! (Though I won't share it, so don't ask.) I have to say, reminds me of Floyd's early days. These guys jam so effortlessly. Some of the transitions are clunky, but I enjoyed listening to this album quite a lot. I dare say it's their best work since "The Wall." |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 19:01
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Posted By: moshkito
Date Posted: November 06 2014 at 19:05
He's not exactly 25, by the way ... and with so many children ... I'm sure he keeps busy! I don't think that he owes us another album. I would like to see, instead, the first DVD he did in concert through out France (I think it was) which was around the time of his first and second solo albums, and that DVD was excellent. It's now buried in nowhere land! If he got a band half as good as that one, it would be worth it. But I find his last two efforts spineless. And the live album in Poland was horrible, and to bury Preissner because David was the star, was a crime! ------------- Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told! www.pedrosena.com |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 07 2014 at 05:16
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Went into our local music chain in Australia called JB Hifi and grabbed the standard CD (I was after the Bluray set, but there's a delay on it). I found just a few copies, placed alongside their previous albums. I don't know...clearly I am just so out of touch that I kind of expected to see maybe a cardboard stand set up with dozens of copies, or maybe a poster or two....but no, just a few copies stacked with their endless reissues and nothing else to draw attention to it. Now, I don't know if they'd put it out a few days early, so were trying to downplay it already being on the shelves, or that the days of big new albums being released are well and truly over, but it all seemed so....meh.  But as for the music, it generally sounds wonderful, certainly one of their most ambient/chilled-out albums. There's perhaps the odd moments here and there that try a bit too hard to make people think of their past albums ("Hey, that bit sounds just like `The Wall/Shine On/Dark Side...etc etc"), but there's plenty of sections that display real magic and exciting new directions they could have headed in...but now never will. In some ways, they try so hard to make you think of all the previous albums that it lets the parts of the album that are fresh and different down. But if you think of it as a loving farewell tribute and closure of their amazing past, this could be more forgiving. Fans should cherish the album because this will probably be the last time you ever get to walk into a store and buy a BRAND NEW Pink Floyd album, and perhaps for some younger ones who've come to love the band, it will be their first and only time! But without question, it's a triumph for intelligent, thoughtful music in an age where music is generally so disposable and unimportant. Hope you guys enjoy it! |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: November 07 2014 at 05:24
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Kicked it up in Spotify. First few minutes are definitely the Floyd from the dark ages. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 07 2014 at 05:37
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It was already released in Australia? Here it's next monday. I listened to some tracks on youtube, and those similarities didn't sound very good at first, but I believe they had good intentions putting those there. Either way, I'm still excited: as you say, it will be my first and only time I buy a brand new Floyd album. I hope to read your review, if you write one of course |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: November 07 2014 at 05:58
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Of course, Sam, I'll live with it for a little while first before doing a write-up! See, if you say the release date is next Monday, perhaps it's simply that they were naughty and put it out early? That might explain why there was nothing in the way of promoting it in the store? Perhaps if I head back in there on Monday, I'll be hit in the face with a massive inflatable pig!
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Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 07 2014 at 06:13
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Or they probably don't care about release dates, I remember seeing PF 2011 remasters in the stores some days before their official release. Surprisingly, I was one of the first to pre-order the album, two weeks ago, so probably the days of big new albums are truly over. It can also be proved by the Amazon pre-order record: most people buy digitally or don't go to record stores like before or don't buy at all. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 07 2014 at 06:28
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Listening to it on Spotify now... -------------
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 07 2014 at 06:41
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