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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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Well The Nice reinterpretted Bach in this case? Isn't that different?
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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Some battles are meant to be lost, I guess.
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Garion81 ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 22 2004 Location: So Cal, USA Status: Offline Points: 4338 |
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Starts on page 6 ends on page 7 ![]() Edited by Garion81 - April 15 2009 at 15:54 |
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![]() "What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38750 |
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There have been some pretty ridiculous attempts at discrediting this addition.
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11985 |
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Shows a distinct lack of knowledge of the subject here. Had he lived Hendrix would have most certainly recorded with Miles Davis in a Jazz Fusion setting. |
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Tony R ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: July 16 2004 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 11985 |
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Like I've said before, by your reasoning you should still be flying around in Sopwith Camels. The fact that you do not appreciate Hendrix's legacy (never mind his influence on Prog) reflects badly on you because your argument becomes basically "I dont like him, so he isnt any good." As for Staz, OK you don't agree with it (actually you do not understand it) fine, it would appear you never will, now let's move on. |
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Ivan_Melgar_M ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 27 2004 Location: Peru Status: Offline Points: 19557 |
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Leave my cute butt in peace
![]() I don't care for SRV enough to even mention him......Sorry, but I always say the truth....Plus i try to use arguments not comparisons, I'm the enemy of "If X, why not Y" argument.
But when i have to mention other artists, it's never tio justify an inclusion, maybe to describe what a determined genre is for me.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - April 15 2009 at 16:37 |
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micky ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 02 2005 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 46843 |
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hahhaha... I knew it wasn't you. We can always count on you to make logical arguments not half..err.. ass comments hahahha. |
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38750 |
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I have a feeling that had Jimi Hendrix lived to record with Miles Davis, both Hendrix and Davis would have found their way into the archives much faster. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2167 |
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Jimi Hendrix is an essential - and bold - addition to proto-prog because PA now finally verifies that a proto-prog band does not need to rely on keyboards. The only other electric guitar driven proto-prog band, The Who is already here, while the Beatles had given us only a few other examples with I Feel Fine and Rain. One can argue that Jefferson Airplane also belong to this small group (since they are in PA), but I still question their prog credentials.
With this significant shift in the inclusion procedure - which I welcome - I look forward to seeing the Yardbirds, Byrds, and the Animals inducted. (I'm confident others will take care of Cream.)
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10740 |
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^ None of the bands mentioned above wrote complex art songs with ground-breaking creative meticulous production on the level of 1983, Midnight Lamp, Long Hot Summer, If 6 was 9, 3rd Stone from the Sun, Aint no Tellin, Houses Burnin etc.
The Byrds might have a case, but they were not involved in the all too important 67 London scene in which The Experience was a prime mover. Remember this is proto-prog, ie who influenced the early prog scene. If you read interviews with Fripp, Emerson, Townsend etc Hendrix is mentioned 100 to 1 over The Byrds. You guys need to quit putting bands on Jimi's coattails because it isn't going to work. The Experience did not need coattails. If you haven't read my intro to this thread please do so now. It took me 3 or 4 months to put this together and you could read the intro in less than 5 minutes. Name one band that meets the criteria that The Experience meets other than a band that is already on PA. You can't! If you get out the records and listen to them you will find that The Experience's many art rock songs are far different from anything Cream put out. Edited by Easy Money - April 16 2009 at 06:15 |
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2167 |
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^Since when was being involved in the "all too important 67 London scene" a critrion for being proto-prog?
![]() The Experinece do not need coattails, but apparently only being part of the London scene suffices. You recomendation for adding them is pretty lame in my opinion. And please stop accusing me and others of not having read your intro. I have twice, but it still leaves me unsatisfied.
You got all the arguments from listening to Jimi's (and Yardbirds, Byrds, Animals) music. He doensn't need to have socialised with the London scene. That's ridiculous.
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10740 |
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Jimi is here for the songs he wrote and produced in 67-68, which I have listed many times. everything else is icing on the cake.
If you want to try to add the bands you have mentioned, then start a thread in the appropriate place and give your reasons for wanting to add that band. |
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earlyprog ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() Neo / PSIKE / Heavy Teams Joined: March 05 2006 Location: . Status: Offline Points: 2167 |
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^I understand you have researched on Hendrix for many months, and you still don't know that many of his songs were written and some even recorded in '66?!
That's explains alot.
You ought to know that many of the bands mentioned have already been suggested "in the appropriate place".
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10740 |
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Well that's good then, is there anything else I can help you with today. Also, Hendrix has recordings before 66, including a proto-psyche guitar 'freakout' with The Isley's in 65, but I didn't include earlier recordings because they are mostly irrelevant to his inclusion in PA's proto-prog section. It is the recordings and performances that influenced Emerson, Fripp, Lord etc that matter.
P.S. I understand your desire to have these bands added, but they will have to go through the same channels that Hendrix did including many debates on the forum, dicussion amongst the administrators, and an OK from Max. I never officially proposed Hendrix for the site, I heard Max had approved him and volunteered to do the research and presentation. I do not have the power to add these bands for you just because I volunteered to add the already approved Hendrix. Edited by Easy Money - April 16 2009 at 08:40 |
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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Absolutely. Duran Duran were comprised of some excellent musicians. Not crazy about their music, but they could play the pants off The Cure from what I've heard. |
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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Well that's a leap of faith, IMO, considering his work with Cream was very much on the cusp of Prog. Clapton was introduced to it. He didn't travel that path. He stuck with the Blues and almost Country! Not to mention, Clapton's heroes were the blues masters of old. Would Hendrix have gone Prog? Doubtful in my eyes. He may have experimented but the Blues was his soul. Likewise, he may have offered his services to other outfits in sessions due to his talents but I don't see him diving head first into those genres which he was invited. However , the psychedelic blues he wrote was already moving out into the Jam band area. That seems evident.
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10740 |
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^ As mentioned before, Hendrix's last bands were a proggy fusion band with veteran jazz kybdst Larry Young (Miles, McLaughlin, Elvin Jones, Tony Williams, Santana).
Plus a proggy canterbury/fusion band with PA member Bo Hanson. He was also heading for work with Miles. Edited by Easy Money - April 16 2009 at 08:13 |
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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I wasn't aware of this. Where is that information? Where are samples?
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Easy Money ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: August 11 2007 Location: Memphis Status: Offline Points: 10740 |
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I am a one hundred percent Miles Davis fan boy and I own at least 3 bios and auto-bios, maybe more. Miles loved Jimi and couldn't wait to work with him. After Jimi passed Miles finally found a replacement in Pete Cosey who took Hendrix's guitar style to new heights.
As for the work with Larry Young and Bo Hanson, you can get some recordings if you look around, I got my Larry Young-Hendrix recordings from a radio show about Larry Young Edited by Easy Money - April 16 2009 at 08:32 |
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