Prototypes of Prog

A multifacetic piece of music "Oh Well", you can never peel the last layer. Which would be the other 2 favourites?
There are still another sources for prog mannerism waiting to be pointed at:
-Convoluted vocal harmonies (C,S&N and Buffalo Springfield?)
-Guitar tecnique experimentation (The Byrds, let's say in "8 miles high")
-Studio tecniques playing a decisive role in composition (The inicial Grateful Dead, let's say, in "Anthem To The Sun"

SteveG wrote: someone_else wrote: A Crimson Mellotron wrote: SteveG wrote: This! A prototypical concept album rather than a prototypical prog album. I'm sure that members of mellotron centric KC and orchestral centric Renaissance would differ with you.

someone_else wrote: A Crimson Mellotron wrote: SteveG wrote: This! A prototypical concept album rather than a prototypical prog album.

I'm sure that members of mellotron centric KC and orchestral centric Renaissance would differ with you.

Edited by SteveG - November 14 2020 at 12:25

Wow, that was fast & categoric. I don't know why, but I expected some debate. I'll take it, anyway: what would have become of Genesis without a Unifaun?
Retaking the original thread, there's a good amount of prototypic material within the Crosby, Stills, etc. saga. Somebody mentioned "Judy Blue Eyes", and I think that Crosby & Nash' "To The Last Whale" would perfectly fit into (an hypothetic alternative compiling of) Yes' "Tormato": listen to the vocal harmonies, but also the melodic content. Parallel world prog?

Aside the music, is mumbo-jumbo like "In A Gadda Da Vida" welcomed in Prog universe?

dr wu23 wrote: Steve and Crimson...you two do know that The Moody Blues are lited under crossover prog...right? But 12 Dreams- Spirit...,my selection...is listed under the proto prog section...take that you misfits! http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=37 proto prog page  btw.... Iron Butterfly is there and so is Touch.

Ah, but as the Stones once sang, time is on my side. The first true prog album, KC's ItCotCK was released in 1969. Days of Future Passed was released in 1967. We must do the math ourselves to determine what is truly proto prog. And numbers don't lie. As trump is finding out.

Well, the cover itself summons to humble contemplation: a classic

Maybe I've underestimated them? So much to listen and re-listen, so much music to be given an opportunity. The Moodies are OK too, besides "Days Of ..." I don't see the reason to stop until "The Present", to say the least

We now decide retrospectively who is who in Prog, but each seed sown in time was irreplaceable (THAT is positive!). Carving in the psychedelic vein, any sensible person should find "In A Gadda Da Vida" at least interesting, even when Iron Butterfly, as a whole, is a less substantial issue.

Prototypes of Prog are many and varied, but Psychedelia was a significant lead into it. Simon Dupree and The Big Sound - Kites is a good example from '66. (Even though the Shulman's grew to hate it!!)