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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:


^the still from the video just about sums up my reaction whenever I hear that song!

I used to play it (well, play and sing it I'm ashamed to say Cry) in a cover band. It was always delivered at breakneck speed, just to get it over with!
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

I have Oceans of Love for Christian Reggae and my all-time favourite Reggae band: Christafari. Heart


Admittedly not my cuppa tea, but Christafari -- it had to be done didn't it! 
Heck of a lot of common ground between Christianity and Rastafari anyway. I once played at a Rasta Christmas event (celebrated around January 8th) -- never felt so welcomed by such lovely people. And the dumplings were lovely :)  
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Led Zeppelin's ill advised D'Yer Mak'er

Oi Mr Gleeson, I like that song. Ok, it might not make many people's Led Zep Top 10 but I don't care.

It's a fun song! Just goes to show Bonzo wasn't going to give up his signature style for anything - not even a hint of swing in those hi-hats! However, I have to say the lyrics are, well... trash basically.

No doubt, it was Plant's idea being a man with a fondness for reggae, as evidenced by a live bonus track on an expanded edition of one of his 80s/early 90s albums, where I was quite surprised to hear a Bob Marley cover, before the band launched into one of Plant's songs. Wish I could find it now...
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Led Zeppelin's ill advised D'Yer Mak'er

Oi Mr Gleeson, I like that song. Ok, it might not make many people's Led Zep Top 10 but I don't care.
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I have Oceans of Love for Christian Reggae and my all-time favourite Reggae band: Christafari. Heart

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^ I think that Vital Signs was a tip of the hat to The Police rather than an attempt to emulate Bob Marley.
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Yes for Quantum Fantay and The Flower Kings ! 
And when I see progressive music and reggae put together, I always think about Rush - Vital Signs.
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Quantum Fantay goes reggae quite often, but also David Gilmour has done a bit of reggae on the coda of Cruise.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Listening to Catch a Fire currently. Such a splendid album. I couldn't care less if folks are looking for "progessive reggae".  I'll stick with Bob, Peter Tosh and Bunny. 


That and Burning (love the Zippo Gimmick cover of CaF)... And for the later BM&TW albums, I'll take Live at Lyceum and Babylon By Bus (caught them on that tour)
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The two Reggae lps that i remember well from parties are the 'pick-a-dub' lp by Keith Hudson (1974) and 'Screaming target' by Big Youth.. really good dub and much sampled by people like Massive Attack etc.

The Ozrics have already been mentioned.. IQ had a foray into 'white reggae' (urrgh.. ) in their very early days i seem to remember (Barbell is in..)

Of course the Orbs glorious 'Towers of Dub' has to have a mentionThumbs Up

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Listening to Catch a Fire currently. Such a splendid album. I couldn't care less if folks are looking for "progessive reggae".  I'll stick with Bob, Peter Tosh and Bunny. 

Yes! Catch a Fire and Burnin are very special albums to me. Despite the great things Bob went on to do at the behest of Chris Blackwell, the original Wailers were, in their own way, extremely progressive. Before them Reggae was just re-hashed versions of 50s doo-wop and rock'n'roll. With their jazz, rock and African influences they entirely defined what reggae was to become (not that the supporting cast of the brothers Barrett and others can be ignored either). But, definitely there was a unique chemistry at play between Marley, Tosh and Bunny Wailer.

To quote Peter Tosh (after the Wailers):

I've learned some lessons in my life
Always be careful of mankind
They'll make you promises today
But tomorrow they change their mind
But I'm an upfull man
And I love upfull people
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And I love progressive people

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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Listening to Catch a Fire currently. Such a splendid album. I couldn't care less if folks are looking for "progessive reggae".  I'll stick with Bob, Peter Tosh and Bunny. 
I love Catch a Fire too (the only album of his I really love), but there's some interesting stuff made by a few of his contemporaries still (mostly in dub), and I can't see anything wrong with folks are asking or looking.
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Listening to Catch a Fire currently. Such a splendid album. I couldn't care less if folks are looking for "progessive reggae".  I'll stick with Bob, Peter Tosh and Bunny. 
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Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

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Cheers!

I'm loving this thread... shaping up nicely for a youtube playlist methinks: "Progressive Reggae-Dub"
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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Dub Trio from NYC are kind of prog adjacent- an instrumental power trio which does live dub and has recorded for Ipecac.
When 70s proggers dipped a toe into reggae the results were generally cringeworthy (VDGG, GG, Led Zeppelin's ill advised D'Yer Mak'er). As others have pointed out, Ozrics are partial to a dubwise bass line and generally pull it off convincingly.
There has been a discernible crossover between the sonic explorations of dub pioneers like Lee Perry and some more experimental artists found on PA; Can and Tortoise spring to mind, while Faust have a similar approach even if it's not particularly audible in their style of playing.
Reggae was also a big influence on the more sonically adventurous post rockers from PIL and The Pop Group onwards.
And if you think you don't like reggae, chill out with King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown and maybe think again.

Dub Trio are definitely one seriously cool band!
No mistaking the dub influences, rather ingeniously mixed with heavy rock. Love it, I can see myself getting into these guys :)

Agree about Ozrics -- personally I think the most authentic reggae/dub vibes were on the earlier releases when Roly was on bass -- he had a gift for that sort of thing
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Originally posted by Sean Trane Sean Trane wrote:



Wink

You'll also find a couple of regae tracks on Gentle Giant's Interview album.

The Caravan is a nice tune, cheers :D


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Dub Trio from NYC are kind of prog adjacent- an instrumental power trio which does live dub and has recorded for Ipecac.
When 70s proggers dipped a toe into reggae the results were generally cringeworthy (VDGG, GG, Led Zeppelin's ill advised D'Yer Mak'er). As others have pointed out, Ozrics are partial to a dubwise bass line and generally pull it off convincingly.
There has been a discernible crossover between the sonic explorations of dub pioneers like Lee Perry and some more experimental artists found on PA; Can and Tortoise spring to mind, while Faust have a similar approach even if it's not particularly audible in their style of playing.
Reggae was also a big influence on the more sonically adventurous post rockers from PIL and The Pop Group onwards.
And if you think you don't like reggae, chill out with King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown and maybe think again.
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Originally posted by Manuel Manuel wrote:

Frankly, I don't like reggae, so I don't care much about anything related to the genre. Therefore,  I wouldn't know about prog reggae. 

Now then, you're just quoting 10CC lyrics! Wink
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