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Alucard
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 06:44 |
Vegetableman wrote:
Cesar Inca wrote:
AREA is missing in this poll!!
DEMETRIO STRATOS: you're not gone, just a bit far away.
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I wouldn't really consider Area Italian prog. For one, their music can't be classified like other Italian prog groups. They didn't have the italian "sound" For two, they were only half Italian... (three Italians, one French, one Belgian, one greek)
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Vegetableman : most of the italian groups have a quiet peculiar sound,let's sayfor ex Goblin is very different from PFM ,as for "only half italian"... they lived and recorded in Italy, DS is mainly singing in Italian (when he's not yodelling) what more do you want...
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Alucard
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 06:34 |
What about german Prog Lostrom...
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 04:39 |
Best Euro-prog comes/came from UK, Sweden and Italy...Long live Europe:) Cheers:)
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marco
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Posted: April 21 2005 at 03:00 |
As some of you already said
where is AREA, the most incredible italian band ever?
If you never had the opportunity to listen to it, well, have a go with Are(A)zione to begin with.
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ita_prog_fan
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Posted: April 20 2005 at 15:29 |
Eemu Ranta wrote:
Quella Vecchia Locanda ("What an old cottage"?) gets my vote for their two superb albums, although any of the 4 other options would be a great pick.
I really like Celeste, Il Volo, Museo Rosenbach, Alphataurus and Picchio dal Pozzo aswell.. the italian scene is endless! |
Quella Vecchia Locanda = That Old Inn
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Frank
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Posted: February 25 2005 at 06:08 |
Vegetableman wrote:
Cesar Inca wrote:
AREA is missing in this poll!!
DEMETRIO STRATOS: you're not gone, just a bit far away.
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I wouldn't really consider Area Italian prog. For one, their music can't be classified like other Italian prog groups. They didn't have the italian "sound" For two, they were only half Italian... (three Italians, one French, one Belgian, one greek)
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I believe that you have taken some information from the good site Italian-prog and I think there is need of a deepening.As it regards formation, Busnello (Belgian) and Djivas (French) they left formation in 1974, but this is not very important.What is important is the fact that the Area represented both musically and above all ideologically an aspect of Italy to the very important epoch.Inspired however musically perhaps by the Soft Machine they drew from a strong tradition jazz of Italian matrix it also continues with from groups as Arti e Mestieri or Dedalus and anchor more Perigeos.As it regards the texts, they embodied the wing barricadera of the revolt juvenile initiate in 68.This is an aspect not to underestimate if we wanted to understand the full affiliation of the Area to an Italian political-intellectual movement that had other musicians as Guccini, busy De Andrč in the elaboration of song-apparent strongly ideological. The phenomenon Area therefore it is not a national but stylistic-ideological cross-over.
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Vegetableman
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Posted: February 24 2005 at 19:48 |
Cesar Inca wrote:
AREA is missing in this poll!!
DEMETRIO STRATOS: you're not gone, just a bit far away.
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I wouldn't really consider Area Italian prog. For one, their music can't be classified like other Italian prog groups. They didn't have the italian "sound" For two, they were only half Italian... (three Italians, one French, one Belgian, one greek)
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"Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?"
"Progressive.... yeah, that's it..."
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Cesar Inca
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Posted: February 24 2005 at 19:27 |
AREA is missing in this poll!!
DEMETRIO STRATOS: you're not gone, just a bit far away.
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Frank
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Posted: February 23 2005 at 12:54 |
This discussion is very interesting.The prog has taken root in a lot of regions of the world and has been interpreted through the tastes and the musical traditions of the place.In the panorama rock is intellectually certainly a sought after and rich kind.The boys' approach to this kind is usually influenced from their studies and in Italy the classical music, that symphonic and the avant-garde of Berio, Varese and Stockausen have left the sign.Also the search of the musical roots (very varied in Italy) had his importance.The Italian prog for us Italian it is different from that understood from who Italian it is not.As we probably intend the English or German prog or French in different way from the inhabitants of that countries.Everything this to say that a lot of critiques that I have read in this magnificent site perhaps countersign an exotic approach to the prog in matter.I honestly have however to say that the greatest and more known Italian groups are recognized such all over the world.For many others there would be a lot to discuss as, I believe, for as others that Italian I am not.But this is another discourse, that would interest in general the prog and this is not the place.For an artist that it misses in the database rhyming you to my intervention in Band to add list. ciao
You forgive my English
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silvertree
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Posted: February 23 2005 at 10:57 |
I've listened so much to Banco, PFM and Le Orme that nowadays I only listen to more obscur Italian bands such as ACQUA FRAGILE, ALPHATAURUS and many others which I strongly recommend !
So I voted 'other bands'
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Menswear
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Posted: February 22 2005 at 21:45 |
Buh?!? Bah?!? Where's Rovescio Della Medaglia?
Come on, even today, Contaminazione is THE ultimate blend of classical and hard rock.
In the long lost has-been section check out: Locanda Della Fate
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Fitzcarraldo
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Posted: February 22 2005 at 17:29 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
Premiata Forneria Marconi.....First Bakery Marconi (Premiata can't be exactly translated, it means something like The first among everything or the best of the best; also can be understood as rewarded)
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Actually, Iván, it can be translated quite well. A better, and more accurate, translation would be 'The Prize-winning Marconi Bakery' or 'The Award-winning Marconi Bakery'.
It's like premiado/a in Spanish and Portuguese.
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The Hemulen
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Posted: February 21 2005 at 08:33 |
Fruit wrote:
Emperor wrote:
-I've got Murple a couple of weeks ago. It seems like that's the only album by them (Great one, anyway!), is it true?
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Yes. is true! By the way,it is magnificient band!
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Too right! It's a bloody classic, that album. Does anyone know of any live boots or ANYTHING else by them?
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Fruit
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Posted: February 21 2005 at 06:37 |
Emperor wrote:
-I've got Murple a couple of weeks ago. It seems like that's the only album by them (Great one, anyway!), is it true?
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Yes. is true!
By the way,it is magnificient band!
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arcer
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Posted: February 20 2005 at 14:01 |
I've only come to Italian prog recently too (through the archive) but have to say of all the ones I've sampled PFM are the only band I've bought albums by and their first three are some of the best prog records I've ever heard - can't believe I missed out on this music for so long!
Quella Vecchia Locanda sound pretty good too and Le Orme have a couple of decent tunes.... but.....
while there are good bits on some of the others I am not attracted to the bulk of it. To me most just sounds like bad Eurovision music with extra flutes and hammond organs.
PFM for me are the only ones who seem to cross the cultural divide to sound like a universal band. The rest sound too 'italian' to me (know that sounds weird and I can't explain it - and it has nothing to do with the language, I think it's a melodic sensibility I just don't get and don't enjoy)
I'll keep digging in the hope of more gems but for the moment, for me, PFM are the only real diamonds in the midst of a lot of cubic zirconium.
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DallasBryan
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Posted: February 19 2005 at 23:53 |
THE BEST 70's ITALIAN PROG
** = best if you are an english speaking citizen and
dont like to block out half of what you are listening to.
Picchio del Piazzo -same**
Il Volo - Essere, o non essere?**
* = best if your stereo equipment translates italian to
english, or you dont mind BAD english!
Premiata Forneria Marconi - Per un amico*
Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Darwin*
Locanda della Fate - For le lucciole non si
amano piu*
Osanna - Palepoli*
Il Balletto di Bronzo - Ys*
Semiramis - Dedicato a frazz*
Le Orme - Felona e sorona*
Luciano Basso - Voci*
Stormy Six - L'Apprendista*
Maxophone - same*
Corte dei Miracoli - same*
Celeste - Principe di un giorno*
Edited by DallasBryan
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Man Erg
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Posted: February 15 2005 at 03:15 |
Emperor wrote:
-I've got Murple a couple of weeks ago. It seems like that's the only album by them (Great one, anyway!), is it true?
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Yes,I'm afraid so.
Edited by Man Erg
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Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
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Sweetnighter
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Posted: February 14 2005 at 22:32 |
Harmonium wrote:
Italian Prog is my favourite kind of prog. Didn't
knew it existed before I discovered Progarchives. What I enjoy the most
is the fact that the voice of the signer is like an instrument because
you don't understand what he says, and what a beautiful
instrument ! But thats the case for all band where the singing is not
in French or in English, for me. Italian is such a romantic
language, full of emotions, and the music is so rich and symphonic
... : )
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso as my vote because it's whit this band that I discovered Italian Prog |
  
I totally agree. In a way I love not understanding what they're saying
because it allows you to focus more on the sound of their voices, you
know? And plus, Italian is just a beautiful language. I think it would
have less of an appeal if it were a colder language like German or
hearing English if I didn't understand it (which sometimes I don't
anyway  ). Great point!
In your "hi i'm here" thread I gave some suggestions, but seeing as
you're familiar with the genre don't take it as an insult to your
intelligence, I wasn't aware, sorry.
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I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
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Lunarscape
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Posted: February 14 2005 at 21:13 |
Voted PFM, mostly because they did a remarkable impression soundtracking my late childhood. Altaloma 9-5 Live is still spinning in my car every day ! ! ! But I've recently discovered Loccanda and they are great...
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Harmonium
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Posted: February 14 2005 at 21:09 |
Italian Prog is my favourite kind of prog. Didn't knew it existed before I discovered Progarchives. What I enjoy the most is the fact that the voice of the signer is like an instrument because you don't understand what he says, and what a beautiful instrument ! But thats the case for all band where the singing is not in French or in English, for me. Italian is such a romantic language, full of emotions, and the music is so rich and symphonic ... : )
Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso as my vote because it's whit this band that I discovered Italian Prog
Edited by Harmonium
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