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ayt1
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 02:14 |
10 would be difficult to choose. 5 fits me better.
J.R.R. Tolkien Lord of the rings.
Homer Iliad and Odissey
Bulgakov Master and Margarita
Goethe Faust
Servantes Don Quixote
Many people here talk of Bradbury. The short story The Blue bottle is very fine, to my taste.
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Peter
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 00:59 |
'Tis possible, but not likely -- too much unity of style. Shake was a superstar (deservedly) in his own day. I don't think that his ego and artistic integrity would have allowed him to attach his name to works by junior, inferior writers.
Why "too many plays?" That argument holds little water.
Great writers are often very prolific! Do you realize just how many books your fave Asimov wrote? Hundreds! Ever take stock of Dickens' output? (Fourteen -- mostly lengthy -- major novels, plus numerous newpapers, journals, etc!)
How many books and stories has your buddy King written?
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 04 2004 at 00:13 |
Thanks for the welcome Peter, I'm glad to be here.
Do you read him in Spanish or English, might I ask? |
In English, there's no way to read Shakespeare in other language without loosing the rythm and the rhyme.
I went to see Hamlet in our first Theater but it was in Spanish, left after 5 minutes, even when the artists were excelent, it wasn't the same.
Re ol' "Shakey" (Billy Jigglejavelin?), yes, he did write the immortal "Homeo & Drooliette," but he didn't originate the Italian story/legend on which it was based. R&J is another masterpiece! In varying degrees (& according to individual taste, of course) all of Shake's plays are masterpieces! That's why we still read them. Immortal stuff! |
A few years ago I read that Shakespeare had a legion of students, and that some of his less important plays were written mostly by his students, he only changed a few things.
IMHO This could be posible for two reasons:
1.- He has too many works even for him.
2.- Some great painters as Tizziano, Rafael Sanzio, Michaelangello, etc had their Academies (in the greek sense) and many of their paintings had only one or two brushes by them, it's proved some lesser works by those great artists were mostly painted by students that followed their styles.
Don't know if you heard this before? and Do you believe it's posible?
Iván
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 23:51 |
ivan_2068 wrote:
1.- Jorge Luis Borges: The most progressive writter in history, combines elements of reality and fantasy (real-marvellous movement) in such a manner that you believe everything. (Best Book: El Aleph)
3.- Isaac Asimov: True and intelligent Sci Fi (B.B: Foundation)
4.- Edgard Alan Poe: Tales of Mystery and Imagination scare the sh!t out of me.
7.- Ray Bradbury: Farenheit 451 Satire and political, a masterpiece.
8.- Willliam Shakespeare: Hamlet and Macbeth are nasterpieces, can't believe he wrote Romeo & Juliet.
9.- Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra: Don Quixote is a must have. The best book ever written in Spanish. |
Great selections, Ivan! I'm due to re-read Quixote soon. I first read it in my early 20s! Fabulous! Every fan of fantasy should read it!
Re ol' "Shakey" (Billy Jigglejavelin?), yes, he did write the immortal "Homeo & Drooliette," but he didn't originate the Italian story/legend on which it was based. R&J is another masterpiece! In varying degrees (& according to individual taste, of course) all of Shake's plays are masterpieces! That's why we still read them. Immortal stuff!
Do you read him in Spanish or English, might I ask?
Thanks, and a belated welcome to the Archives,
Peter
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 23:29 |
1.- Jorge Luis Borges: The most progressive writter in history, combines elements of reality and fantasy (real-marvellous movement) in such a manner that you believe everything. (Best Book: El Aleph)
2.- Julio Cortazar: Almost like Borges, but his books are more dense. (B.B:Rayuela)
3.- Isaac Asimov: True and intelligent Sci Fi (B.B: Foundation)
4.- Edgard Alan Poe: Tales of Mystery and Imagination scare the sh!t out of me.
5.- Mario Vargas Llosa: Just read The War of the End of the World, an historic fantastic book.
6.- Franz Kafka: The Trial and Metamorphosis are masterpieces.
7.- Ray Bradbury: Farenheit 451 Satire and political, a masterpiece.
8.- Willliam Shakespeare: Hamlet and Macbeth are nasterpieces, can't believe he wrote Romeo & Juliet.
9.- Miguel de Cervantes Saavedra: Don Quixote is a must have. The best book ever written in Spanish.
10.- Steven King: The Shining, Autopsy Room 4, Different Seasons are enough reasons to consider him a genius.
Iván
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 16:49 |
Okay then, Dude, I'll be serious. Some great literature I've enjoyed:
Jane Austen - Mansfield Park
Jane Austen - Emma
Charlotte Bronte - Jane Eyre
Cervantes - Don Quixote
Charles Dickens - David Copperfield his best!
Charles Dickens - Oliver Twist
Charles Dickens - Great Expectations
Charles Dickens - A Tale of Two Cities
Henry Fielding - Tom Jones very funny!
Thomas Hardy - Far From the Madding Crowd tragi-comic!
Anthony Trollope - Barchester Towers
William Makepeace Thakeray - Vanity Fair a sprawling comic masterpiece!
I also enjoy the poetry of Byron -- funny and moving!
I'll leave the fantasy, sci-fi and modern stuff for another post! 
Happy reading, proggers!
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dude
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 09:54 |
PHILLY STINE!!!!!
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Peter
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Posted: May 03 2004 at 00:06 |
Buks are fer eggheadz & nerdz!
My homie Eminem don't read, an hes a moor beter poemer then any off yur old dead writrs! Get reel!
Sined,
Bollockwhiff
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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 02 2004 at 12:10 |
dude wrote:
LARRY NIVEN ONE OF THE GRAETS!! ILOVED "RINGWORLD"
HAVE YOU RAED "INCONSTANT MOON " STORMY?
YOU WOULD ALSO KNOW "SOLDEIR ASK NOT" BY GORDEN R DICKSON ONE OF THE DORSAI STORIES, I THINK IT WON A NEBULA OR HUGO AWARD IN THE early seventeis |
I really enjoy Niven's short story "Inconstant Moon" a lot! Given the popularity of SciFi disaster movies, I don't understand why it was never made into a major motion picture. I seem to remember that it was made into a TV show for one of the anthology programs that used to be popular, but that it was of rather pedestrian quality.
Also the short story collection by the same name that includes "Inconstant Moon" is uniformly great.
And yes I know "Soldier Ask Not" very well. All of Dickson's "Childe Cycle" books are brilliant work, IMO. I'm quite sure it won the Hugo award, though I don't remember whether it also won the Nebula.
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dude
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Posted: May 02 2004 at 11:53 |
LARRY NIVEN, ONE OF THE GRAETS!! ILOVED "RINGWORLD"
HAVE YOU RAED "INCONSTANT MOON " STORMY?
YOU WOULD ALSO KNOW "SOLDEIR ASK NOT" BY GORDEN R DICKSON ONE OF THE DORSAI STORIES(if i remember correctly), I THINK IT WON A NEBULA OR HUGO AWARD IN THE early seventeis
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Stormcrow
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Posted: May 02 2004 at 11:44 |
How about 10 favorite authors?
J. R. R. Tolkien
Robert A. Heinlein
Thomas Sowell
Graham Hancock
Gordon R. Dickson
Larry Niven
Robert B. Parker
Jeff Cooper
David Eddings
Roger Zelazny
and "The Stand" and the Dark Tower books are almost enough to put Stephan King in, even though I don't care for a lot of his other work.
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Glass-Prison
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Posted: May 02 2004 at 10:45 |
hmm... top ten fiction, what a tough question. I think I will leave out non-fiction, because there are many philosophical works I could include, but it would be tough to compare those with the fiction novels. anyway, here goes...
1. Atlas Shrugged - Ayn Rand
2. The Iliad & The Odyssey - Homer
3. The Lord Of The Rings - J.R.R. Tolkien
4. 1984 - George Orwell
5. Crime & Punishment - Fyodor Dostoevsky
6. Ulysses - James Joyce
7. Dracula - Bram Stoker
8. Chronicles of Narnia - C.S. Lewis
9.Heart of Darkness - Joseph Conrad
10. Animal Farm - George Orwell
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dude
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Posted: May 02 2004 at 09:50 |
FARENHEIGHT 451 WAS A BRADBURY STORY I NEVER READ(IT WAS FILMED IN THE LATE SIXTEIS WITH OSKAR WERNER IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY!)
BUT ONE OF HIS SHORT STORYS "FROST AND FIRE" IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE ALL TIME SCI FI STOREIS!!!
DURING THE NIGHT SIM WAS BORN...........AND HE WOULD LIVE JUST 8 DAYS!!
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diddy
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Posted: May 02 2004 at 09:43 |
Hmmm...I don't really have a particular order or a 'Top Ten' but I can mention some of my favorites.
Take a look at my signature and you will find a quotation of the author of my favorite book, George Orwell...and I really love 'Nineteen eighty four' read it several times in german and english. I love Science Fiction of that kind (Fahrenheit 451, Brave New World etc.), no Star Trek or similar science fiction.
I also enjoyed some Tom Clancy, Tolkien of course and some 'classical' like Goethe (Faust) or his fellow Schiller. Right now I'm trying to understand Friedrich Nietzsche (Also sprach Zarathustra), but I think I will fail 
BTW I don't like Shakespeare, I had to read Romeo and Juliet, but the plot is kind of banal, nice language but simple plot, I don't liked it...
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dude
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Posted: May 02 2004 at 08:32 |
THROUGH THE HISTORY OF THE FORUMS SO FAR THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF DISCUSSOINS ABOUT LITERATURE AND MENTOINS OF BOOKS AUTHORS ETC
WHAT ARE YOUR TOP TEN BOOKS OR SHORT STOREIS OR PEICES OF LITERATURE, IT CAN BE POEMS, SCIENCE FICTION EVEN SOFT CORE PORN COMEDY!!(I LOVE THE CONFESSOINS BOOKS BY TIMOTHY LEE FOR EXAMPLE VERY FUNNY AND AS THE SEREIS WENT ON THE(LIGHT) PORN WAS LESSENED IN FAVOR OF THE COMEDY AND A NUMBER OF MOVEIS WERE MADE!)
GO TO IT
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