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Poll Question: So.. are you dropping acid or having red eyes, or are you clean?
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Points: 825 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 18:22
Originally posted by AtLossForWords AtLossForWords wrote:

I really love marijiuana. I think the amount of users would mass greatly if it were a legal substance.



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I'll have a beer when hanging out with friends (which unfortunately doesn't happen often - too busy)

That's it really. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 16:07
yea, being stoned gives you a wider consiousness, wether you believe it or not, if you refuse to believe so, then you're just being stupid. and all those discussions aroud going "did this band use drugs? bla bla bla"... my opinion is , in progressive rock mostly, there must be at least 90% of bands that touched drugs at least once in their life. Drugs arent so bad yo know
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Points: 264 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 07 2005 at 15:51

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

But if you are truly creative and imaginative you shouldn't need to get stoned to find inspiration.

Listen to tool's song third eye. The guy talking reminds me of Bill Hicks now that I think about it, not sure though.

Have you listened to the song "The End" from the doors. It's an amazing track IMO but surely a result of being alone in the desert talking LSD.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2005 at 13:39
All kinds of clean here.
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I'm clean. Always have been, always will be. But that does not stop people from thinking I'm a stoner 

What's yer faovrite album? =^_^=
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 28 2005 at 17:04
Originally posted by Borealis Borealis wrote:

Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

^lol

Well, Borealis... you live in Quebec right? (me 2)

Just that fact is enough to have alot of stoner friends lol

Yes I do. I know more people on drugs here than clear ones... ahh, la jeunesse québécoise de nos jours

haha, eh oui... quelle gagne de buzzers

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Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

^lol

Well, Borealis... you live in Quebec right? (me 2)

Just that fact is enough to have alot of stoner friends lol

Yes I do. I know more people on drugs here than clear ones... ahh, la jeunesse québécoise de nos jours

Vive le Québec libre!...
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I'm sprinkly clean

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Drugs don't interest me at all.

I think, though, with my long hair and my strange music some people can get the wrong impression...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 19:14

^lol

Well, Borealis... you live in Quebec right? (me 2)

Just that fact is enough to have alot of stoner friends lol
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Points: 599 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 23 2005 at 18:54
... well, you probably doesn't know many progger... maybe they are GlassHammer fans, or something like that...
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I think everyone I've met that was into Prog is clean

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^

I like the way you think man

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 17:24
Yea i completely agree. If you wanna adventure into drugs. first: have a goal... and dont take it as a way to have "fun"... take it "spiritually". bless it! and you are right... sadly there arent many people who take drugs this way... Finally, drugs can be bad, and they can be good. depending on your purpose.
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Points: 8890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:15
Originally posted by stebo32 stebo32 wrote:

Actually. yea, we can all access these altered mind states naturally... by meditation techniques, or transe states, etc... But, please is there a non-stoner here who does that?  Theres those tibetan people... yea...    But other than that... A PORTION of peopple who go in drugs are already super smart and wanna find out MORE about the universe... and what better way then ingesting a plant that can make you access that information... and what makes you say stoners dont meditate or anything once in a while to obtaint it naturally... Its more about the desire of someone to obtain such altered mind state. I completely disagree with "people with small minds use them." Its probably the wisest people who realize. hek drugs arent bad... what is the meaning of "bad" anyways on this planet. we dont even KNOW the damn meaning of life. why give ourselves limits...

I think he was generally speaking.  I'm sure some people use marijuana to expand their minds and stuff like you mentioned, but that number is quite small.  If you are naturally creative, then why bother using a drug?

Drugs aren't "bad" but they can mess people up both mentally and physically.  I don't think marijuana is bad at all physically, and I'm not even sure why it's illegal, but it can mentally cripple users and force them to become almost dependent on the drug to have a good time (similar to alcohol).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 16:06
Actually. yea, we can all access these altered mind states naturally... by meditation techniques, or transe states, etc... But, please is there a non-stoner here who does that?  Theres those tibetan people... yea...    But other than that... A PORTION of peopple who go in drugs are already super smart and wanna find out MORE about the universe... and what better way then ingesting a plant that can make you access that information... and what makes you say stoners dont meditate or anything once in a while to obtaint it naturally... Its more about the desire of someone to obtain such altered mind state. I completely disagree with "people with small minds use them." Its probably the wisest people who realize. hek drugs arent bad... what is the meaning of "bad" anyways on this planet. we dont even KNOW the damn meaning of life. why give ourselves limits...
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Points: 27802 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:57

You can cut and paste it:

PA:  What are your views on drugs?

DG:  If you have a small mind they seem to help you get access to the parts you have shut down. It’s like a shortcut to a visionary state that you can reach anyway if you just let go of your mental limitations put there after years and years in this world.  If your mind is already large they will just help you shut down other parts of it.  Let’s say they are a shortcut to a place to which you will never find a proper way if you use them.  Usually, when a mediocre artist starts doing drugs, they will in fact produce one or two interesting albums, more open-minded than their previous work, then they will just turn sour and never do anything as good again.  At least, that’s my impression.  I don’t go near them.  I have struggled through dense vegetation to find that place anyway, and that journey has done me good.


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Points: 8890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:52
I think Daniel Gidenlow makes a great point on drugs in this interview (I'd paste it... but these forums don't let me =X)

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=2511&a mp;PN=1
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 15 2005 at 15:44

^ I completely agree... But ... it is clear that even a person like that taking drugs will have a even wider imagination... It is proved. on weed, you can see your imaginations so clearly, close your eyes and see imagery... same with music, same with drawing, it brings you to this creative section of your brain.

I dont wanna sound pro-drugs, there are obviously bad sides to drugs. Just dont abuse and smoke when going to school or anything... but some one who consumes when he has time and nothing on his mind. well, actually I am convinced that he will widen his intelligence, by having new experiences.
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