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sleeper
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 18:59 |
The third option, we are all responsible for our own actions and must see them as being just that, our own actions.
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crimhead
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 18:50 |
I took what was behind door #3.
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Bj-1
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 18:48 |
Rivertree wrote:
Well - I'm not religious in any way - I believe in my own abilities - but not exclusively - my family, friends and colleagues are also very important ... 
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Well said. I agree 100% 
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 18:32 |
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Passionist
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 18:32 |
Yeah, umm, I'm so to the 3rd that I'd rather shut up than start a flamewar...
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Dim
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 18:21 |
For a non religious thread, this thread is gonna get pretty religous soon, so I will help keep that from happening by not posting in it again.
I voted #2
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heyitsthatguy
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 18:18 |
Well, it depends, as someone could believe that they are reliant on their abilities that were given to them by God
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Rivertree
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 18:11 |
Well - I'm not religious in any way - I believe in my own abilities - but not exclusively - my family, friends and colleagues are also very important ...
Edited by Rivertree - December 01 2007 at 18:12
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cuncuna
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 17:38 |
Since I don't believe in god, it's choice 3 for me. I would, however, depend on a dog if I were blind. (Woody Allen joke alert).
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¡Beware of the Bee!
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avestin
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 17:38 |
I exclusively depend on my own (in)abilities
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rileydog22
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 17:35 |
Anyone who expects god to solve their problems will be sorely disappointed.
Edited by rileydog22 - December 01 2007 at 19:41
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Hamfari
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 17:29 |
you all are God in disguise silly humans
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Nobody needs to go anywhere else. We are all, if we only knew it, already there.
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stonebeard
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 17:19 |
Somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd options.
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Arsillus
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 17:17 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
I studied in a catholic school, and our football (soccer) coach was a priest.
Once a guy in the team asked the coach: "If we pray will God make us win?"
The coach/priest answered "Yes, he will help us but only if we train hard and play better than the other team"
That is my position, trust in God but also make an effort by yourself.
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Yeah, I agree. I believe God requires us to put forth our best efforts and do what we can before he steps in to help us out or do something for us. That's why he gave us brains, arms, legs, abilities, talents, etc- so we can use them.
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laplace
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 16:59 |
sort of a fourth option for me
I don't rely on god but I don't rely on myself either. we're equally useless to laplace the cynic.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 16:43 |
I studied in a catholic school, and our football (soccer) coach was a priest.
Once a guy in the team asked the coach: "If we pray will God make us win?"
The coach/priest answered "Yes, he will help us but only if we train hard and play better than the other team"
That is my position, trust in God but also make an effort by yourself.
Iván
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aapatsos
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Posted: December 01 2007 at 15:27 |
THIS IS NOT A RELIGION/RELIGIOUS THREAD
I was just wondering how much do you see yourself depending on God (in any way you imagine God) and/or your own self/strengths/abilities. I see many variations in my everyday life and I am interested to see how much emphasis put people in this.
Myself, I feel I depend both on God and on my own abilities. An Ancient Greek rime says 'Syn Athena kai xeira kinei' which means, 'along Athena (one of the Goddesses of Ancient Greeks), you need to move your hands (take your own actions)'
Feel free to drop a line...
Edited by aapatsos - December 01 2007 at 15:28
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